>Very tall makes it an easy target you can see from a mile away
>Destroying one of the legs renders it useless as its unmobile now
>Can't realistically fire and maneuver at the same time
>Only crewed by one guy in most cases
>A major pain in the ass to maintain, repair and transport
Why would anyone decide that mechas are a good idea when you have tanks?
inb4
>but its fiction
>NOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF MECHA WHY DON'T YOU SPERGE ABOUT MUH MAGIC N SHIT
The answer is consistency. You can have story with magic and it can still be internally consistent. You can't do the same with robots. Any attempt to justify mecha is doomed to fail for exactly the reasons covered in my op.
>b-b-b-ut mechs are cool
If you have the same mentality as a person who consumes marvel "movies"
Mechs are the dumbest things in anime
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Based Barbatos repping the best type of weapon around
Realismtards are the dumbest audience for fiction.
>>Destroying one of the legs renders it useless as its unmobile now
Wrong.
It's immobile before you destroy the leg. It's too big to be bipedal.
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Who cares ? They look awesome and that's what counts.
Mecha proving once again to be the maximum gatekeepers for normies to get into anime
>destroying one of the legs renders it immobile
Most of them use thrusters for movement as opposed to actually walking
>can't fire and move at the same time
Are you taking the piss? You think tanks stop completely before they fire a round?
>only crewed by one guy
I get that this is meant to be a negative, but you could also cut it as a positive in that it saves on manpower
Legitimate complaints are the high target profile and the fact that they would cost a gorillion dollars to manage, but so would any high-tech weapon with a huge tactical advantage
Fiction has never adhered strictly to absolute realism, artistic license has always been used to tell stories.
This is what i never get, some people are okay with kids flying, shooting fire and controlling time but mechas are way too unrealistic for them.
>The answer is consistency. You can have story with magic and it can still be internally consistent. You can't do the same with robots. Any attempt to justify mecha is doomed to fail for exactly the reasons covered in my op.
At least you addressed your own bullshit but that doesn't keep it from being bullshit. No, mechs are not any less consistent than a lot of other garbage that anime and manga does.
Based and panzerpilled.
Is Iron Blood Orphans worth watching? I loved Gundam Thunderbolt but the main character here looks like an ugly midget
>one bazooka round to side the penetrates the tiger II, hits the ammo storage which ignites and consequently kills everyone inside
dude lol tanks are worth the tax dollars
It's fine if you can field a few thousand of them.
Imao imagine being so autistic you can't enjoy anything if it doesn't pander to your autism or is "unrealistic".
I'd tell you to go back to /m/ but they probably tell you to fuck off too being the huge faggot you are.
Only if you like shows where all the main characters die in the last few episodes
>Very tall makes it an easy target you can see from a mile away
>Destroying one of the legs renders it useless as its unmobile now
>Can't realistically fire and maneuver at the same time
>Only crewed by one guy in most cases
>A major pain in the ass to maintain, repair and transport
I've got the perfect show for you then. You're faggotry will probably prevent you from enjoying it, but I suppose there's nothing we can do about that.
It has good ideas at times, and some great designs, but I would be hard pressed to want to watch it a second time. It dragged something fierce and I found it hard to give a damn about anyone other that Space Guts.
What is it with mechfags being so triggered every time realism comes up? Can't they just go, "yep it's stupid, I don't give a shit". Instead it's always dumb fallacies upon fallacies. Just live with it you dumb shits.
What about the intimidation factor? That one warlord in ghana made mechs in real life as a propaganda piece (see pic related) and the same thing can happen in universe. If all you're doing is mowing down a bunch of unarmed civilians a mech does nearly as good of a job as a tank would but is way more intimidating and gets the message out.
Does the concept of suspension of disbelief not exist anymore?
Not when it comes to mechs for some people. They can forgive literally anything else but mechs.
every tank vs mecha thread on /m/ has the tank side stick to realism but the mechs follow whatever in-universe justification they have for mecha.
/m/ likes to grasp on the tiniest of straws that mechs will be viable soon. like there will be news about medical breakthroughs regarding artificial organs and they'll be all "when evas?!!"
And then they watch shit like AoT
Aircraft >>>>> tonks
>ugly midget
not only that, he's an absolute non-character in the whole show, he's a literal robot. They could make the Gundam sentient and nothing would have changed, he's the second worst part of the show. except the baby making part at the end
For the story. It's an easy way to have characters 1v1 in a scifi setting. Do you think the energy shields and knives in Dune were any less silly?
>Do you think the energy shields and knives in Dune were any less silly?
It’s true, that is also extremely silly.
lol, how hard does one have to seethe to waste time making this?
>see an anime in new season
>watch it
>it has some dumb mecha shit in it
>DROPPED
Fuck mecha
>m/ likes to grasp on the tiniest of straws that mechs will be viable soon. like there will be news about medical breakthroughs regarding artificial organs and they'll be all "when evas?!!"
literally never seen this happen, either you're too autistic to take a joke there or you're just a lying faggot
>he's a literal robot.
as in literally or """literally"""
normally id be bothered by straight up spoilers but I love me some bummer fucking endings, so I might check this out
They get around that by having mechs be immune to conventional ammo. Tanks usually can't penetrate the armor. Too fast to snipe, etc.
Does not make sense IRL, cause a robot that size would be slow as fuck, but hey, they're using lightsabers and beam rifles. Reality can fuck off.
If someone tried to create a mecha that would actually make sense, I think they would have ended up with something like this: (pic related).
Seriously, all other problems aside, there is no reason for a mecha to only have two legs.
literally, because the only thing he does is follow Orga's order. He can't think for himself, you might think that this is going to be crucial for his character arc but nope. They subverted us until the end.
>Just straight up make things up and hope no one notices.
Apostle Doctor is no warlord. He is a cult leader/con artist who hosts an annual "tech show" to con money out of his his followers by pretending he has invested the money into high technology.
I agree, cant stand mecha at all, its just repulsive
Couldnt watch lelouch because it was present
This again.
Half of those is easily answered by "jets are so fast that it doesn't matter" (which does not apply to mechas), and the other half is just wrong. Not all jets have a single engine and a crew of one, not all jets are launched from aircraft carriers, etc.
But above all, fighter jets and tanks occupy completely different niches on the battlefield, whereas mechas are supposed to be a replacement for MBT. The intended comparison is just inept.
Cant care less about realism shrealism and other bullshit
I hate mecha tropes, mecha aesthetics and everything surrounding mechas too
Fuck mecha and fuck everyone who likes it
I have to agree, mechs in general are just plain ugly
based
>retard that never goes to /m/ tells everyone what it is like
You are, in fact, not a real anime fan if you can't appreciate mecha.
This. I just finished turn a gundam two days ago and besides it being massively overrated, it was a great reminder as to why I stopped caring about mecha. It's basically just fantasy like onions wars.
They should at least make something more gritty and militaristic. No gay laser beams and put some fucking camo on them.
That wouldn't work either. Legs are too weak to support its weight. Code Geass did that already in the OVA's.
Wouldn't a mecha have lighter armor than a tank? After all it would already weigh multiple times as much as a tank even with tin foil tier armor.
>watches anime
>thinks mecha is stupid
OP wanna know how I know that youre a normie faggot and/or dumb roastie?
Why are you back?You already got btfo'd hereMecha are one of the 4 cornerstones of anime, it's not going anytime soon.
>The answer is consistency. You can have story with magic and it can still be internally consistent. You can't do the same with robots
This is straight retarded
You can have any fictional element in a setting as long as you create a world that facilitates the existence of whatever element you're introducing.
>>b-b-b-ut mechs are cool
>If you have the same mentality as a person who consumes marvel "movies"
You're on an anime forum, please have some self awareness
>They should at least make something more gritty and militaristic. No gay laser beams and put some fucking camo on them.
>muh camo
>muh reelistick drab and gray aesthetic
gayest shit itt.
This kind of thinking is what produced the godawful bayformers films and every generic militarywank piece of media from the 00s till today.
The universe is cool. The MC sucks
>more gritty and militaristic
zakus exist user
Dunno, I wouldn't mind mecha that look like this
>Mecha are one of the 4 cornerstones of anime, it's not going anytime soon.
Idk user. When was the last big mech show? Gridman?
>They should at least make something more gritty and militaristic
If you go too far with this it isn't mecha anymore. Something like FLAG is close to what you want, but is it mecha?
how is transformers anything like I described? I meant something more like full metal panic
While I could argue with you about the difference between realism and suspension of disbelief/verisimilitude in fiction, here's a clip of a bunch of guys fighting mechs with rocket launchers and you can draw your own conclusion.
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>Use thrusters
Might as well make low flying tanks then. Accept it, mechas are shit
Here is another one from the same OVA with tanks vs mechs
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What were they called, Malinsky particles? Whatever, Gundam's author explained it as a new type of energy was discovered that rendered ranged weapons unusable forcing large mecha to be built that would melee the hell out of each other.
You'd know this if you watched more than one mecha show that one time when you were bored and hated it but you're an idiot and a newfag
No mech would ever exist, other than for dick measuring/propaganda. You need to make them capable of tanking as many missiles as possible and as much thermite based rounds as possible, they can't out run shots fired at them so need a nigh endless way to render typical munitions useless (kinda impossible until magical shields). War is done at extreme distances, so tanks etc are just for occupying a location to show some kind of presence, because the war is in the sky (or on some boat/sub, technological (hacking etc/spycraft) or economic).
Mechs are rule of cool and because they stand in for humans, which is was so many are humanoid.
>why does it have hands/legs and load guns/hold swords
>just make that built in
When ever a mecha series really goes on this tangent to it's fullest (just making the "limbs/digits" weapons themselves) it looks corny and stupid. People have an easier time accepting the impossibility when it's just a big human.
Everyone should watch Dai-Guard.
I'm interested to see the Gundam Hathaway movies. Can Bright Noa's retarded son be redeemed?
A cornerstone doesn't always have to be in the limelight, mecha served as a foundational element for anime very early on.
Many of the first serialized tv anime were mecha series.
The fact that even japan recognizes several of those as cultural icons speaks volumes.
That being said Gridman was still pretty big, and so were Promare and DitF.
>If you go too far with this it isn't mecha anymore.
Says who? Flag is still considered a mecha series, even the tachikomas and landmates in GitS are classes of mecha.
A lot of people think mecha is limited to stuff that either looks like a knockoff gundam or a megazord, but what's considered mecha is way more broad than that. Especially in japan since they sometimes tend to even use terms like "aircraft" when referring to mecha.
Generally the term's loosely applied to most mechanical design in fiction
And mechanical designers will often do more than just work on strictly giant robot designs. Ikuto Yamashita of evangelion fame has also designed a lot of fictional aircraft. Kanetake Ebikawa
I wish you would at least read whatever has been translated of the novels and not make the assumption that 25 year old hathaway would be the same character as his 13 year old self in CCA.
They're completely different people.
I didn't, I want to be surprised.
Better question: Why are tankfags so insecure? It's always they the one's that seethe about mecha being unrealistic and shit. I have never seen planefags or boatfags complain on the same level as them.
>>Can't realistically fire and maneuver at the same time
You're a retard, the anime in your pic specifically adresses this topic through those implant they have on the back (forgot their name) wich allow them to manipulate gundam on an instictival level. It's also why they take children to work with those robot. The link works better with them (or easier to install)
what does Malinsky particles have to do with anything you fucking retard? it's just a power source, it can be literal magic for all I care, it still doesn't refute a single point OP made