Well actually the MC is a super special snowflake with a unique and powerful lineage!

Aren't the Hackerman a special bloodline too ?

What does it mean to have a powerful lineage? Like for Naruto it's explicit that the chakra he inherited from his mother gave him large reserves and greater control over the Kyuubi.

But let's just say you're the son/daughter of a famous warrior but before that your ancestry was just peasantry. Your parent only made a renown name because they were daring and had guts but beyond that they had no influence for your rise. Sure you can say it's maybe genetics but I feel that's a cope at times for butthurt losers.

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It has to have some impact on the character's abilities. Like naruto, gon, but not Ichigo, Goku, or Tanjiro. Hell I'd argue even Vegeta doesn't get any lineage power ups. He's strong from his own actions

Ippo's biggest problem is that he only ever wanted to see how far the coach's training could take him. He never really had a drive to win.

Why no one has pointed this out to him, that you need to WANT to be a winner to make it to the top, boggles the mind.

More confusing is for how fucking long we're going to be doing something before he either dies or decides to go back into boxing one more time. I think when it is all said and done it will fit better, but going through this is a slog.

For Gon was it ever made clear that it was Ging's genetics that made him so naturally talented to Nen? Because Gon grew up on a bumfuck island and he would have died there, as a weakling, if he wasn't so motivated to find his father. While his lineage may have played a role it's only because he put himself out there that he got so strong to begin with.
Vegeta definitely isn't strong because of his father, iirc he was already more powerful than him as a child.

>For Gon was it ever made clear that it was Ging's genetics that made him so naturally talented to Nen? Because Gon grew up on a bumfuck island and he would have died there, as a weakling, if he wasn't so motivated to find his father. While his lineage may have played a role it's only because he put himself out there that he got so strong to begin with.
From what the fanbase has screamed repeatedly about the gon-san power up it was only possible because he had a huge amount of innate nen "potential" that he sacrificed.

And yeah he just ran around the forest as a kid and never actually trained but managed to out run a bunch of grown men in the hunter exam.

>Hell I'd argue even Vegeta doesn't get any lineage power ups. He's strong from his own actions

And I that would be a pretty weak argument, since not only was Vegeta born with a high power level, even outpacing his father as a child, but Toriyama has noted that Vegs is not only special among the elite Saiyans, he's special in that he's capable of thinking and feeling like the humans, as royalty, unlike lower-class Saiyans like Goku, Raditz and now Broly. By comparison, Goku is nothing special, as a Saiyan a literally brute-forced his legendary Super Saiyan transformations, due too many zenkais on top of a massive mental trauma of watching his friend die. His attitude if always training for the sake of training and testing his limits is a by-product of literal brains damage.

at what point does that benefit for vegeta become irrelevant though?

It's subliminal messaging to teach the readers that most people are just easily replacable cogs in the machine known as society. The protagonist of real life does not sit home and read and fantisize about the achievements of fictional people. He's out achieving things himself.