Avengers: Endgame Writer Explains Why The Winter Soldier Could Not Be The Next Captain America

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>Mackie explained, “And, with the idea of being a black man and becoming Captain America, it’s been a daunting task because I think, at this day and age in America, I think we are open-minded to the idea of having my face represent us, as a country.” He added, “And my race represent us as a country because we’re truly a melting pot. So there is no distinctive look or feel or design of an American. We’re all Americans.” Mackie concluded, “So, to be Captain America, I want my Captain America to represent everybody. Not just a specific group of people.”

Damn... when you put it that way...

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Mackie is Falcon, not the writer.

Majority of Americans are non whites anyway. When people think of an American, it’s no longer a white guy, it’s a black or spic.

OP is of course race-baiting

> Was it always Sam who was going to take Cap’s mantle, or was Bucky ever considered?
> Considered, but quickly dropped. Captain America is about the idealism, what we could be if we were better. Sam is that. Bucky is something else entirely. -Writers

sam is still idealistic and fits the mantle of cap. bucky is a jaded multiple-brainwashed cold war black ops assassin, no amount of deprogramming would make him be a good cap replacement

sam as the next cap always makes sense

Embarrassing. He never showed any qualities worthy of holding that title, he seemed more like comic relief. Nothing to do with his race, he's just lame, that's partly the writer's fault, probably a last-minute idea.
>Mackie concluded, “So, to be Captain America, I want my Captain America to represent everybody. Not just a specific group of people.”
The lack of self-awareness, jesus

It's the MCU, not the NCU

>sam is still idealistic and fits the mantle of cap
when was this mentioned, before or after all the punching and fighting?

No one has a problem with him being Cap because of his race. The problem is that he is a normal human without any super powers. Cap and Bucky are both superhuman

>sam is still idealistic
When the fuck did this ever come up

Bucky is a fucking assasin, that's why. None of this race bullshit, do you think civilians would take the man who murdered Kennedy as their new Cap?

in winter soldier and civil war. sam is level-headed and still understands the need to take care of veterans after their war is over. bucky is too busy BLEACHING wakandans, which is a based retirement, but ultimately not what cap is about

sure, let the next Falcon be white then...

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sounds like you're reading too much into these kids movies

who's replacing Iron Man now? Don Cheadle?

Mackie cant carry that role. He doesnt have the chops, and Falcon is barely a character. Next phase of MCU is going to suck fat balls.

does it not seem sad that the black character can't be allowed to have his own name? Isn't it pathetic that he's only seen as a legitimate hero once he takes over the mantle of a white man? I like falcon but he has his own name and life in the present, bucky doesn't

Come on user, civilians may as well not exist in these movies until they need a Civil War style plot.

Even Ant-Man would be a better choice, he owned Falcon's ass and he's actually likeable.

Why did there even need to be a "new" Captain America? Why did the mantle need to be passed on? Steve Rogers was Captain America and Captain America was Steve Rogers.

Bucky becoming cap would be a redemption story, plus his power set actually makes sense with being the new captain America

How exactly is Falcon supposed to do it when he’s literally a normal dude with fake wings?

People here are too easy to bait. The exact same baitpost is up on Yas Forums, once again omitting the writer's words in favor of cherry-picked bait, and people are eating it up there too.

Bucky didn't want to be a soldier anymore. He'd spent decades brainwashed and used as a weapon, he was wanting to live out a quiet life that his sanctuary in Wakanda was allowing.

He knew it was bad when T'challa came to him prepping him for battle, because Panther would not have come to him unless the situation was beyond dire. Its the only reason he suited up, otherwise he was done with that life style.

I hope the writers of the Falcon/Soldier show go out of their way to explain what would bring Bucky out of retirement that wasn't a global threat. He isn't going to pal around with Sam fighting small-time threats without good reason, it'll need to be bigger than that. Anything small-scale is going to feel forced for the character.

This.
Someone who was a brainwashed assassin for Hydra isn't the best Captain America candidate.

There’s nothing special about Falcon, he’s got no powers. Shield should be giving multiple falcon suits to people with Sam’s skillset. Even Rhodey makes more sense to be Cap than him, iron man suit is stronger than the shitty bird one

Like it matters whoever says on any interview, it was left sky clear in endgame that Mackie was the next cap. OP could be race-baiting but it's still discussing over.

Chris Evans actually has an inclusion rider in his contract that says every role he plays eventually has to be recast as a black man. It's his form of reparations.

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>I want my Captain America to represent everybody. Not just a specific group of people.
So they won't market him as a black guy? I fucking doubt it.

it can be small scale because it's about the government shitting on his bff steve's legacy. that's the only way it works now. even end of world threat doesn't matter because you have a stronger avengers team, minus stark.

has to be personal or it doesn't work, so luckily they understand that

>Sam is idealistic
Since when? As far as I can tell, he's only ever been the b-team guy who hangs out with Captain America and flies around, you might as well give it to fucking Don Cheadle

Fuck Anthony Mackie

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Here's your Captain America bro

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How the fuck did it get such high critical reviews when Mackie was bland as fuck, the story was a mess, the dialogue was atrocious and even the violence and shots were poorly made?

Sebastian Stan got cucked. Signed to a 9 picture deal and doesn't get to be cap when Evans only signed a 6 picture deal.

He's black.

>it's mackie's fault an entire show went to shit

>show went to shit immediately after introducing a new main character, must have nothing to do with it

In fairness your description matches the first season too

I'm legitimately surprised at how "crowd-pleasing" S1 of Altered Carbon was because it obviously already had glaring flaws, but it's even funnier to see the audience completely reject S2 while the critics suddenly rush to embrace it.

>its an 85 IQ monkey tries to talk like an educated human episode

Him acting like a piece of charred wood didn’t help.

He could’ve at least watched the first season and made the tiniest effort to act like Kovacs instead of generic action man

how did cap even get on the bench? answer me that logically

I thought it was pretty obvious why he couldn't be Captain America? He's still a liability and literally a terrorist.

he is black

The first season of Altered Carbon was literally meme cyberpunk in the best possible way. It had the neon and the rain and the detective noir tropes and the weird looking naked hapa girls. Every pleb who went in with a Blade Runner boner got it thoroughly stroked off.

>muh current year politics should define the logic of a superhero movie
Thank you based kikes

Lmao this twink ass looking gay ass nigguh representing everyone? Maybe some better looking nig, but jesus, not him.

>do you think civilians would take the man who murdered Kennedy as their new Cap
They elected LBJ in 64’ didn’t they ?

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plot hole bullshit honestly, I wish we got more with sharon carter because cap would've had a reason to stay in this time rather than hide in a past he could never contribute to

This

This one scene of Kovacs killing everyone while wearing a kids backpack had more fun and soul than the entirety of season 2

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i wouldnt even mind a black cap but not this goofy looking nigga. he has virgin facial structure

i was totally on board with the idea that Kovacs was going to be sleeved into a black guy, seemed to fit just fine with the idea that bodies were just disposable suits. Mackie, however, was bland as fuck, and more importantly the writing and tone went from super edgy cyberpunk kino in Season 1 where Kovacs literally buys a kids schoolbag full of illegal narcotics in episode 1 and goes on a bender, and then to shitty tonally-toothless generic-science-fiction-wank in season 2 with Kovacs is just a plain milquetoast hero guy

He's an eagle themed hero. Makes sense to be the next Mr American. They are alter egos, not a second identity. These costumes and the heroes inside represent an ideal, it's why they wear costumes and masks, because anyone can represent those ideals.

The best way to mitigate this issue of "they're just replacing the heroes with black people" would be to have multiple people doning the same title. So have 2 captains and 3 iron men or some shit.

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