Other than Trevor Noah having the charisma of a dead fish...

>Was the "Bush is dumb lol" era any different from "Orange man bad"?
it was very very different, bush is dumb lol wasn't constant for a start, there was good a while after 9/11 out of fear and blind patriotism the government/bush got a bit of a free pass from a lot of media outlets, if you said anything against them you were being unamerican letting the terrorists win blablahorseshit.
but even when he did say something obviously dumb it was a speech or a press event, he didn't have twitter like trump so it wasn't a constant stream of him saying shit every day and people sperging about it 24/7, social media and the news networks going full clickbait over the last 10-15 years has changed things massively.

I feel bad for Noah. He is out of his league. Those were big shows to fill. And the scene as gone to shit. I can't stand even Cobert now and I didn't even vote for Trump.

The Bush era was different. The comedy scene was different. Things seemed less polarized, less crazy.

It was a great day for America everybody.

The CBS exsecutives were too hot and bothered by him.

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Balls.

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I think it was almost as bad, but with Trump there's a hatred and fear. There wasn't an episode on a talk show where Bush wasn't made fun of, and they truly didn't like him or Republicans. Bush is in better favor now with the establishment and I think we're looking back with tinted glasses.

I keep saying Colbert has become the very thing he used to parody. He is now the Dem version of people like Glenn Beck.

>allow for me to tell you about your government my fellow americans
>aaaaaaackshually im not even american
fuck this guy

Bush didn't do something big and stupid every single day.

god, i had the biggest hardon for beth
rip craig, greatest late night show of all time

>fellow whites

Yes, surprisingly so. Bush was never based anyways.

>Bush is in better favor now with the establishment
And yet Lefties lost their shit when Ellen Degenerate sat next to him at a baseball game.

Stewart criticized the media a lot more. Modern Daily Show has decided since Trump doesn’t like the media they must be a force for good.

Kilby era was the best.

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Imagine a modern liberal comedian making frequent appearances on tucker carlson’s show and even having a giant debate with him in an auditorium moderated by CNN like Stewart and O’Reilly. You can’t because people like John Oliver are so stuck in their echo chamber that they can’t do shit without a laugh track to make the viewer think what they just said was hilarious.

Also zoomers seem to be under the impression that modern media has become partisan or more entertainment than news. This was way worse back in the day at the advent of cable news. The battles that Stewart, Coulter, and O’Reilly would get into was literally some WWE entertainment tier shit that seemed fake as fuck at times. The internet replacing cable news actually made news more “news” than entertainment, frankly.

I used to like Colbert, but now I realize I only liked the character he played. John Stewart was the better comedic-commentator all along, but he did popularize the trend in the modern era.

Dude it was nothing like this. Letterman, Leno, Ferguson, and Conan were not like Colbert, Kimmel, and Meyers.

he is the coomer's choice but also the most based choice. He created a show where coomers and normal people can set aside their differences and enjoy a little Yas Forums

I'm 27 dude
And has it right
People went after Bush's gaffes but not to the extent they do now

But dormpf had TWO SCOOPS of ice cream!

He left long before the election season

>Was the "Bush is dumb lol" era any different from "Orange man bad"?
It was a lot more fun. People hated Bush, but they didn't act like the world was ending or that he was literally Hitler and we have to impeach him now. People making fun of Trump now come off extremely desperate compared to when they made fun of Bush.

>he doesn't remember the little bush cartoon and that's my bush on conedy central.
>what are you doing?
>taking the cat's temperature
>why are you doing it with that douche?
xDD

Stewart also was less biased. He called Obama out on plenty of stuff.

I remember once on the daily show in the early days of Obama’s presidency he said something to the effect of “I feel like if bush had done this people would be losing their shit.”

the tone is different. the difference is hostility. jon stewart wasn't outright hostile to bush; he was a little disrespectful but it was more like a good natured ribbing. with trump there it feels like watching a "two-minutes hate" from 1984.

Jon roasted both sides. No matter what side of the fence you were on you could see how dumb politicians were in general. Now it's become just nonstop Trump and Republican bashing. If these idiots were smart they would stop competing for the same audience as everyone else. They should focus on pop culture.

It wasn’t constant Bush jokes, and the Bush jokes were actual jokes and not just seething hatred. Stewart focused a lot on news media, going after CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC for their shortcomings.

John is a smart guy that was doing everything he could to speak the truth in a time when dems and republicans were both right wing. John was putting into words what a lot of us felt about the state of the media and politicians.
This is coincidentally one of the things Trump hit on, that the media is manipulative and fake sometimes. Whether or not you like trump, a lot of people, dems and republicans alike, distrust the media because they're constantly doing shady shit.

That's true, Stewart's sanity did a lot to keep the show in line. People forget that he wasn't just counterattacking the right wing media narrative from the left; he also never missed an opportunity to say that the media environment itself was the problem, and that everyone would be better off if people could just talk like grown-ups.

He never gave Obama any slack for the drone strikes.

Daily show died when Craig Kilborn left.

Jon Stewart and even the Colbert Report were both actually funny because it was just their goal to tell funny jokes. It was still personal like it is today, but not to the same extent. When Jon Stewart was on the air (at least at first) what he was doing was a new thing and stood in direct contrast and parody with establishment news.

It doesn't work as well today because it's now its own genre with 10 or more people with their own shows but the same style. Instead of parodying the news, it is its own type of news. People watch these shows now to be informed about politics, not to make fun of politics.

I do remember rhe lil bush cartoon, it came out in like the last year of his second term and it was shit, doesn't really change anything I said, they did get a free ride for a long time after 9/11, and the news and social media cycles were nowhere near the levels of the constant trump sperging we have now.
nobody remembers that's my bush.

That's My Bush only had one season right before 9/11 and wasn't renewed newscasts of the attitude changes after

I fucking hate phoneposting
*renewed because of

>interviews some random minor republican for 2 hours
>cuts it down to 2 minutes of "funny" parts where he says something out of context
>smug jew looks at camera smirking as it plays

I think it's important to look at Jon Stewart's single biggest moment, his Crossfire interview with Tucker Carlson. To everyone watching at the time, Stewart was obviously the winner - he seemed righteous in calling out shoddy partisanship, he owned Tucker for his lame bow tie, and he succeeded in what he wanted, ultimately getting Crossfire cancelled. But while Stewart seemed to claim that the destruction of partisan debate would somehow give us a more elevated dialogue, instead we gradually replaced it with no debate at all. The media shifted from discussions between the left and right to the pretense that the left was right about everything.

And that led us inexorably to where we are now: Jon Stewart's progeny all doing late night talk shows where they talk to nobody who disagrees with them, and Tucker Carlson actually doing more to challenge the status quo than any of them ever can. Jon Stewart did more damage to American media discourse than anyone else in the last several decades.

I would take a different perspective on it. Jon's problem with the show was that it wasn't good discussion, it was soundbytes and quips, basically the same problem as with Twitter. I think he believes establishment media has a moral duty to be a good example for the public in terms of productive political discussion, and I would guess that he'd say social media increases the need for it if anything.

That you know of.

The kicker was the cut that Japanese dude doing it first. So Trump just mimicked his host.

John > Craig kilborn > Trevor Noah

Man, the kilborn years were fun. probably because it seemed so fresh

>it came out in 2007
You're a retarded zoomer it was pre 9/11

>was Jon Stewart Daily Show really any better quality than modern late night comedy?
Yes, because older things are automatically better than newer things.

> Was the "Bush is dumb lol" era any different from "Orange man bad"?
No. Im sure the people who are butthurt over Trump jokes laughed mindlessly at Bush jokes.
It's pathetic, really.

You still got "war on terror man bad" in daily conversation with certain people but the tv shows generally held themselves to a higher standard, if only to not be hackneyed Plus Bush at least tried to be "presidential" so there really was less material.

Jon Stewart's comedic method:
> play clip of politician making a verbal gaff
> stop and look at audience with dead pan look on face waiting for laugh track
That's all he fucking did. He played a clip of someone making a gaff and would look at the camera with a dumb fucking look on his face waiting for everyone to laugh. Fuck Jon Leibowitz

it worked though

I remember watching Daily Show in 2000/2001 and thinking it was below the Leno/Letterman Late Night Talkshow monologues. It was during the Gore/W election and it didn't seem to badger one side over the other.

He's at least partly responsible. I have no doubt endless numbers of kids and other people in general took up his show as legitimate, in depth views and news and just used the satire comedy as a cover when they actually bough into it all.

That being said I don't think Jon actually realized that was happening. Hell looking at it now still not sure he's realized it. He had some actual politics and opinions yeah, but he seemed to think that, at the end of the day, it was still a dumb fake news show. He might still think that way; outside of a handful of small 'orange man bad' appearances, he's just kind of moved on to seclusion.

He definitely knew. He was running propaganda 101 for years.
>Let's act like we make fun of both sides
>Only take one side seriously when they respond
>Mock the other side relentlessly if they respond
>If they fire back, retreat into your "I'm just the Jester!" pilpul hole

I still think that Bush impressions are funnier than Trump impressions. Bush just talks funny.

>Was the "Bush is dumb lol" era any different from "Orange man bad"?
The jokes weren’t much different but the frequency wasn’t anywhere near as annoying.

The last Daily Show episode I watched he had Bill O'Reilly on and practically threw the book he was promoting back at him and insisted he "admit that white privilege exists" out of nowhere