Portugal is more Spanish than Catalonia and Basque(nia) are
Portugal is more Spanish than Catalonia and Basque(nia) are
Justin Murphy
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Jaxson Johnson
Galicia is more Portugal than Spanish, plus it looks nice if they joined Portugal
And Basque and Catalonia need to be fully independent
Brody Rivera
Basques are literally the true spaniards and scats are the beta version of castillians, so no.
But Portugal is Spain, that's correct
Julian Taylor
post straight out of Franco's boondocks
Jordan Rogers
Wouldn't it be nice if Japan got balkanized into four countries just because of small unimportant differences in culture and language?
Nolan Cook
everyone in hispania is spanish, but only in a geographical context. Culture-wise the peninsula is a mess of cultural rape-babies, the only reason the languages are somewhat close is because the romans were very good at genociding, and we were very good at defying conquerors, which led to such levels of depopulation that only in the industrial revolution the numbers became even.
In 1640 castilians had to choose betwen keeping portugal or keeping catalunha, and they choose the later, so no we are not closer to castillians in any way or form compared to catalans or valencians.
Christopher Mitchell
Ryūkyū is more American and Chinese than Japanese, plus it looks nice if they joined China (they where a vasall state of China in the past).
And Hokkaido need to be fully independent.
Jaxon Rivera
But user, that's a good thing
Brandon Parker
You are rigtfully Leon vassals, kneel before your king right now!
Zachary Hill
i can't wait to join spanish civil war
Daniel Butler
Franco was right though, spanish is just basque latin.
Easton Thomas
¡No pasarán!
Samuel Taylor
>you now remember that the original italian plan was to annex the balearic islands
Jason Hill
Ryan Richardson
that's just a silly statement
Robert Turner
the lords of leon have long died, as did the culture and its people. A shame, really, but that's what happens when you deal with castillians
Those visig*th wannabes ruined the peninsula, more often attacked christians than muslims. Not to mention their self-destructive behaviour resulted in having foreigners rulling the peninsula, which pretty much was the start of the end for the prosperity in these lands
Daniel Torres
>Galicia is more Portugal than Spanish
We aren't, nobody here considers themselves portuguese
Bentley Howard
They are all spanish because they are iberian.
Samuel Murphy
Nowadays Formentera is practically an Italian island, at least in summer. Although I don't think Mussolini would be proud of that kind of Italians (nudists and yonkis).
Christopher Kelly
>In 1640 castilians had to choose betwen keeping portugal or keeping catalunha, and they choose the later, so no we are not closer to castillians in any way or form compared to catalans or valencians.
We were not on equal grounds with catalans, since we enjoyed a much higher degree of autonomy.
It was far easier for Spain to keep Catalonia than Portugal.
Logan Diaz
But I'm Spanish and I'm not Iberian (Mallorca).
Gavin Kelly
youre an iberian living in an island then
Cameron Smith
¡No! Soy español y malloquín.
Oliver Smith
Exactly
Balearics are Iberia, just not mainland
Luis Morales
Aren't islanders seen as weird in all cultures? Sardinians, Corsicans, Gotlanders, Taiwanese, etc
Jace Flores
>Balearic Islands are Spain, just not Iberian peninsula
Fixed.
Logan Hall
Iberian Peninsula = Spain
Even portus like get it
Landon Rodriguez
How about go ask them in the /esp/ thread?
Matthew Moore
that is not as true as you might think. The Spanish kings never had much grip on their land because they avoided doing land reforms.
The core reason we never had much trouble reppeling spanish attacks was because castillians nobles would often ally us in order to further weaken their sovereign.
In 1640 they had a regent in portugal, yes, but they had foros in the other provinces which is not that much better, and again, spanish monarchs (hapsburgs at the time) only kept their throne because they spent silly amounts of wealth bribing everyone not to turn against them, which is tied to how overinflation destroyed their economy. Keeping portugal or keeping catalonia was a mater of prestige and/or pride, not of ownership, because income was devirtuated by american gold and soldiers were a plenty everywhere. Also they took our navy for themselves, and both us and the dutch made ships for them, and they were losing netherlands
Jackson Williams
Visca Catalunya Lliure
Leo Gomez
Seethe
Dylan Bennett
Nope, South Italy and Lombardy are more Spanish than Portugal