Why english dialects aren't considered to be their own languages despite grammatical, phonetical and lexical differences between them, like with the dutch and norse languages, with the exception of Scots?
Why english dialects aren't considered to be their own languages despite grammatical...
Michael Fisher
Matthew Sanders
Dutch dialects are more different than English dialects.
Chase Davis
That's the same for all dialects and languages. It's considered a language then when there is a power center around it that can project power over a certain region thus the accurate statement 'A language is a dialect with an army and a navy'
Brandon Martin
We're a post teenager culture
>"omg im so unique, look at this language and culture"
>literally the exact same shit
Not afraid to call an egg an egg.
Jonathan Ortiz
Because like Chinese, English is also unified by orthography. If Scottish English was written phonetically rather than using standard English orthography, then the result would look bizarre and non-Englishlike.
Carter Thomas
Those aren't even dialects just regional variants of the same standard language. The major differences are minor phonetical ones, making them accents, not dialects. In formal speech and writing, the lexical differences are also minor.
If you think that American and Australian English could be compared to German and Dutch, or Swedish and Danish, then you are very mistaken and clearly don't know anything about said languages.
Jacob Roberts
because all English dialects can easily be understood with each other.
Noah Jackson
Can the different Dutch and Norse languages understand each other almost perfectly?
Jason Diaz
No, not at all.
Christian Rivera
Only LARPers on twitter think Scots is a language.
Jaxon Hernandez
I can read German and Dutch with ease, but I can not speak nor understand it verbally.
Hudson Carter
Could you specify your question? I think this guy might have misunderstood.
Jack White
People can't understand me when I speak ordinarily in Appalachian English, sometimes people from other Appalachian mountain ranges can't understand each other depending on the context (e.g. using specialized vocabulary). I can't understand Scottish or Northern English ones either.
Thomas Sanders
depends on which variety of english
jamaican patwa can be learned to be understood quickly by a british english speaker
but its not the same language
probably more akin to situation with dutch and afrikaans
Jordan Robinson
How come I can’t understand english speaking pajeets?
Henry Scott
Afrikaans is simplified Dutch.
Frisian is slowly becoming more Dutch over time, so it's usually understandable.
German is relatively easy as 70% of the words are the same and used in the same word order, but pronounced differently and have different endings.
But Norwegian, Swedish and Danish are too distant to understand. I just catch some words, just like with French.
Bentley Cooper
I did not misunderstand the question, I just elaborate. Are you an autist?
Mason Morris
I initially couldn’t understand you hillbillies until being exposed to you all for a few weeks (I went to Virginia Tech)
I can mostly understand Jamaican Patwa if I use context clues and listen carefully
Wyatt Hall
But some Dutch dialects like Limburgish can be complete gibberish.
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Leo Allen
they don't learn English properly.
Jonathan Harris
like james I and VI?
Camden Collins
>hillbillies
Not actually an insult for us btw, idk if you meant it kind of jokingly or not.
The feeling's mutual from what I understand from older people, they couldn't understand other dialects when they were stationed with the military.
Evan Powell
no.
Adrian Powell
Parker Moore
Scottish Twitter is just full of Glaswegians who think they're speaking Scots but are really just speaking a deviant variant of Scottish English.
Isaiah Green
Have you tried reading norwegian?
>Norge er et nordisk, europeisk land og en selvstendig stat vest på Den skandinaviske halvøy. Geografisk sett er landet langt og smalt. På den langstrakte kysten mot Nord-Atlanteren befinner Norges vidkjente fjorder seg. Kongeriket Norge omfatter, i tillegg til fastlandet, Jan Mayen og Svalbard. Med disse to arktiske områdene omfatter Norge et landareal på 385 000 km2 og har et innbyggerantall på drøyt fem millioner (2016). Fastlands-Norge grenser i øst til Sverige, i nordøst til Finland og Russland
Eli Richardson
AHEM
Cooper Baker
Yes, the people that pronounce words properly speak simplified English but the English don't.
And Scots isn't incorrect English since it didn't come from it :)
James Brooks
Norway is a Nordic, European country and independent state of the Scandinavian hemisphere. Geographically speaking is the country long and small. The longest coast is the North Atlantic side with fjords. The Kingdom contains the mainland, Jan Mayen and Svalbard. The perimiter that surrounds Norwegian's landmass is 385.000 square km and ??? millionaire (2016). Mainland Norway borders Sweden in the east and Finland and Russia in the North.
Bentley Powell
Mostly jokingly with a hint of insult
But fret not my friend, you guys are all right with me, despite me being a yankee. I’d like to think that my dialect is neutral since i’m a Northern VAfag
Isaiah Murphy
Because in spite of the differences, they're still fairly mutually intelligible. Canadian English and American English are extremely similar. There's like one vowel in Canadian English (the "ou" in "house" for example) that they pronounce differently. Other than that I don't really notice any differences between the two.
British English and Australian English can sometimes be hard to understand depending on the dialect, but I can still understand 99.99% of what they're saying.
Luis Turner
why are you so fucking rude?
Jaxson Phillips
>Canadian English (the "ou" in "house" for example)
How do they pronouce it? Hoose?
Luis Thompson
Surinamese Dutch, which is one of the easiest dialects.
Jace Hughes
Yes
Thomas Cook
>Can the different Dutch and Norse languages understand each other almost perfectly?
No.
Dude just chill. It was just such a weird fucking question, never heard anyone ask whether we could understand Dutchmen. I figured he maybe asked about north Germanic languages and Dutch separatly. Ie. if Danes understood Norwegians and if Flemings understood Dutchmen.
No need to be so angry and rude all the time bro