I am confused, anons. Are German and Dutch mutually intelligible or not...

I am confused, anons. Are German and Dutch mutually intelligible or not? Some people have said no and others have said yes.

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when reading yes
when talking no

To some degree yeah, especially if written.
Afaik people it's much easier with Low German.

north germans probably have an easier time since their local dialects are closer to it.

written yes, can understand 99% without much effort. When spoken it's harder but you can still get the general meaning if you focus a bit, for regions in Germany that speak in a frankish dialect it's probably easier

Reading mostly yes
speaking to an extent but not completely

t. from niedersachsen

No, Germans have a lot of their own words and we have a lot of ours.
It's not hard to bridge the gap but effort isn't non-existent.

Dutch and Deutsch are similar words for a reason. When I was a kid, I thought Dutch was a German dialect... Let's just say both languages are very close. I cannot speak Dutch, but I can understand large parts of it. Reading is especially easy. I live close to the border though, Bavarians for example might have problems with it. Germany and the Netherlands have always been closely related, the Lowlands became independent from the Holy Roman Empire in 1648 and it's not like we didn't talk to each other after that.

Please storm our country so I don't have to speak this dead language ever again. It's retard English rapebaby German. Just fuck my life up, senpai.

t b h the only reason dutch isn't considered a dialect and instead a language nowadays is the independence and success of the dutch republic

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Ugh, what could have been (not joking btw)

It's hard to say because almost everyone here has had some german classes, but it's probably safe to say no because with 2 years of class I barely understand it, and feel like that goes for most people. Reading is easier of course
Cope

Then how come Austrian German is considered a dialect and not a separate language?

Depends on where you are from. Most Germans I know can understand it, but the further you go from the regions bordering the Netherlands, the more difficult it becomes for the locals since we all have different dialects. According to my experience, Dutch people have a bit more trouble with understanding German in comparison, but they almost always have a nice basis level of understanding it.

4 years of german in highschool and i still cant understand that shit properly... every listening test we had to take was just guessing the right awnser.

The Dutch left in 1648, the Austrians were kicked out in 1866. Dutch culture developed sooner and so they began thinking of themselves as non-Germans earlier. Also, Austria being the central power of German politics for centuries can't just step out of Germany.

Can Austrians and Swiss understand it, and vice-versa? Do Germans normally have an easier time understanding the southern Alemmanic/Bavarian dialects or Dutch?

Bairisch isn't an official language user.

Again, depends on the region. Swiss German is really hard to understand to me, but I live in North Rhine-Westphalia. People from Baden-Württemberg usually can deal with Swiss German.

What about German and Danish? Or Dutch and Danish?

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Danish is by far the wort Germanic language. (ok, not by far, there is Swiss German)
No idea if Dutch understand them, but I am bretty sure Danes do not even understand each other.

There is no 'Austrian' German per se except if you talk about standard austrian standard german which has just a few differences to standard german german. Languages and dialects exist on a continuum and in austria mostly bavarian dialects are spoken except for vorarlberg where you have alemanic dialects. German was slowly being standardized and there were concurring standards after luther translated the bible so the saxonian standard was the one that pretty much used in the protestantic north and the maximilian chancelerry standard in the catholic south. It was won out in the end by the saxonian after austria lost the 7-years war. However dialects where pretty much spoken until today, only in the north of Germany dialects have really gone extinct by now but they are rapidly going extinct because of globalisation

made a few mistakes but i hope it's clear lol phoneposting is exhausting af

>Danish is by far the wort Germanic language
What's wrong with it and what's wrong with Swiss German

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Germans can't understand Swiss German, and from what I know danish pronunciation seems to be wacky

Danish is completely alien to me.
German on the other hand is okay to decipher when written but impossible to follow when spoken.

For me all germanic languages sound the same except English because it's roman for 50%.

Swiss German still is German, but it sounds atrocious to most Federal Germans. It's hard to understand and seems very whacky. People from Baden-Württemberg can deal with it best.

Danish is a different language altogether, it is somewhat similar to German, especially the North German dialects, and therefore hard to understand for a reason, so to say.

Reading Swiss German is easier than reading Danish. Basically, if you ask me, Swiss German is just the whackiest German there is. I'll search for a nice video that shows the differences.

Oh damn, sorry for reddit spacing. Before any of you come around the corner posting wojaks, that was a mistake and not intentional.
Finding a decent video is harder than I thought... I just want a video or an audio that shows High German and Swiss German next to each other. But again, the dialects make the difference. We all speak a different version of German after all.

According to this thread it seems Germans have an easier time understanding Dutch than the opposite

nevermind Huns. everything is alright.

by the way i found video with danish and now i can tell it was mistake to say german and danish sound the same.
german sounds pretty weird for me and danish is completely neutral.