If they had remained in power, would they have been a better alternative to the current (communist) dynasty?

If they had remained in power, would they have been a better alternative to the current (communist) dynasty?

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nope it would have just been mafia instead of ccp, maybe they would have had a little more freedom politically but i think it would be similar economically

No it would be an africa tier shithole.

CCP > RoC >>>>>>>>>> Qing in terms of competence
Only butthurt incels say otherwise

Big fat no from me

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You got it in reverse. Neither Qing nor the RoC ever came up with something even half as retarded as the Great Leap Forward or the Four Plagues Campaign.

Both got cucked so we'll never know. Weak governments that suck often do.

Yeah because they never had enough control of the country to enact any plans on that scale

Neither ever had a fully planned economy, so obviously. The only way you can make the CCP look competent is by presuming, against all facts and plausibility, that both regimes would eventually end up full of ideologues implementing a socialist planned economy despite not being socialists (and indeed, in the case of the RoC just having fought socialists for their very survival).

Depends, the Qing was already in decline and full of decadence. Better than the CCP? Depends, I honestly think it would have been a MUCH BETTER society, prior to European forced opioid use, the crime rate was far far lower than that of Europe. Problem, political corruption would probably be even worse than current China but less disastrous in terms of societal development. The key factor would have been industrialization though, if they outmatched Japanese industrialization they would probably be the legit powerhouse of the world, far more powerful than America, they are honestly in some areas but it would have been something like Japan x10. I think that probably sums it up, today it would have been Japan except much more corrupt with a more disciplined workforce than current China.

Refusing modernization is 100x more retarded by itself than some muh famines

Except it worked

Thailand tier with additional ethnic and religious warfare

So no

Yes, absolutely. I can't even fathom how you would suggest otherwise. The commies killed almost a billion, did irrepearable damage to their culture/history and isolated China from the rest of the world for half a century.

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>communism doesn't wo-
oh wait

Qing was so fucking assbackwards and the most isolationist piece of shit you retard

yeah just kill em tibetans and uyghurs chang

Backwards is fine. Commie isn't because they aligned themselves with an actual threat. Learn 2 history.

not even zhang but they are not being killed retard

Absolutely not. The Qings were fucking horrible and cucks for the West.
A better question would be a comparison between CCP and RoC. They're both good except the CCP is more authoritian and well-suited for a gigantic nation full of bugmen.

It's a moot point since remaining in power and still being the same state would be utterly impossible

Qing and RoC combination can smash CCP to smithereens.
Sadly western power dont want that to happen. Because they fear the yellow peril.
CCP is a western creation to causing troubles in the east.
I can only sigh in sadness that the eastern heaven in which Qing, Japan, RoCa are vanguards
Now the east is a mess thanks to jews and yankies

No shit "backwards is fine" for you since you want China to be a weak stagnant backwater

why did u guys even fight mutt imperialism u are basically american puppet now

We were dumb to fell into western (USSR+US+France) trap and killing ourselves for decades.

>The Four Plagues campaign worked
Looks like the 50 cent army is here.

You're insane. All we do is help the weak and unfortunate, including China. But if China decides to fight the entire world, we can't give them support. You idiot.

no

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>OH NO NO NO NO

It would probably have become a constitutional monarchy if the Qing had stayed in power. The late Qing administration was desperately trying to establish a constitutional system because they realised they would lose power otherwise. If the nationalists had never rebelled, China would probably be a huge version of Japan right now.

GO BACK TO CHINA ZHANG

Not by the time they fell. They were reforming from the 1880s onwards.

>isolated China from the rest of the world for half a century.
Qinq did that for centuries

>chinese people should live like they did in medieval times
Wow swedes really are racists

The feudal system is better at feeding people than communism. That's not a high bar but still.