Why don't they develop a common Standard language?
Why don't they develop a common Standard language?
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It already almost is. As far as i know norwegians and swedes understand each other and danish is literally just swedish but with a speech impediment
Yeah bro and why don't Romance countries just develop a standard language
They could name it Latin since their languages are based on the languages of the Latins
Good thing languages don't drift or anything or else it might slip into regional varieties and dialects that could one day become their own languages
I feel like if we made a common standard language for Scandinavian, we could name it Norse
Because the Norwegians are autists when it comes to language
we have, norwegian.
it's already mutually intelligible, like anyone in your country speaking to someone from another city or province.
>Why don't they develop a common Standard language?
It's called English.
We barely spoke Italian in 1861 .
Give it another 200 years
One day we will come to pur senses and adopt icelandic.
Does this really happen, though? I watched The Bridge and they make it look like you understand each other without much trouble.
Do Danes fear that in Sweden they would be killed for being different?
>We barely spoke Italian in 1861
Italian is literally just the Tuscan dialect being forced on the rest of Italy because the House of Savoie had a hard-on for Florence
Yikes
might as well learn esperanto
danes are german
It's very rare between Swedes and Norwegians. Danish is something you need to be used to in order to understand it, so sometimes people do speak with Danes in English.
Due to all the hatred swedes have for Danes and the many times swedes slaughtered Danes in ethnic hatred
Except esperanto is gay and cringe whereas icelandic is chad and based.
Based.
Do you want to genocide Danes so that Sweden can expand south and kill their hated enemy?
>Italian is just Tuscan
Wrong
>Just because Savoy
Wrong
English isn't even a bad bridge language for them. It's germanic as well and pretty much the closest language to their native languages
The languages are mutually intelligible. But everyone can write English, so why not. We already are so Americanized that kids don't know their culture anymore anyway.
but they're both artificial
Written Norwegian is literally just Danish with a few minor changes. They were so butthurt about this that they had to make up a meme language that no one uses.
Danish is taught in schools in Iceland and the Faroe Islands (and Greenland).
Cute.
>Why don't they develop a common Standard language?
We, have. It's called Norwegian.
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Danes are friends. Also, south of Sweden is nothing but water and then you hit Germany, with a detour to Bornholm.
If the bridge was real then all the Swedes would go "va?" every time a Dane is saying something
Danish is the most horrible language I've ever heard
Copeseethe all you want but you're taking the big Florentine cock every time you open your mouth
You mean you haven't heard dutch?
Literally false.
It is for a large part based on formal florentine though or not? Like the language of dante/petrarca except more modern
Icelandic is not artificial. Why do you believe that?
Shut up fat
because of gustav vasa
Seethe about what lmao, I'm Roman, I pretty much speak a Tuscan dialect and our pronunciation was considered the standard till 60 years ago.
Standard Italian is based on the Florentine of the 1300s, but it evolved from the written standard developed by the scholars, and well before the Savoy became the Italian royal dynasty.
Yes, it evolved from the Florentine spoken in 1300s. There was a clear divergence between the Standard language developed by the scholars and the dialect spoken in Florence though. Even today, the Florentine accent isn't really standard.
Right, I guess the written, formalized standard is always gonna be different from the way people actually speak
Some would argue that before there is a written standard, a language doesn't formally exist.
Those people would be pretty dumb though
Funny how different countires have different lyrics for these songs
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I think the Norwegian text is quite good:
>born in misery
>filled with hate
No text like it in other languages
Sweetheart you need to learn the difference between written and spoken language
That's because Florence was one of the centers of the Renaissance and Italian culture in general
The reason you speak Tuscan and not some shit regional variety is because the House of Savoy forced the rest of Italy to start speaking it when it was unified
Not necessarily. Even today, Scandinavia is a dialect continuum. For all intents and purposes, you could not definitely say which language they spoke in many areas before there was a written standard. It's a take on "a language is a dialect with a navy" idea.
You still can't really say what language they speak though right, assuming it hasn't changed. Only what language they write. Anyway it's a simplification at least to say that something has to have a written standard to be an actual language, of the ca 6000 languages there are I'm guessing most don't have one. I also think it doesn't actually matter at all whether you want to call something a language or a dialect or whatever. People attribute way too much value to that kind of stuff.
You could say these things today. Literature influences speech greatly. There are still dialects, but they're now considered dialects of Swedish or Norwegian respectively, in part because they've been subsumed into the corpus of the formal language.
Imagine thinking that outside of Toscana were speaking Florentine in the 1300s because a few Florentines wrote influential literature in a time where almost nobody could read
Italian was considered the National standard even by Manzoni, a Lombard. There was already consensus about it before the formal unification, stop pretending as if you didn't say a plain bullshit.
And no, the divergence between Italian Standard is not only due to the fact that it was a written language, it was also due to divergence of spoken Florentine from its variety used in the 1300s.
as I recall Icelandic as it is known today was largely contrived to replace danish influences and usages
That's not what I said you dumbo, the Savoy just happened to be the Royal family that unified Italy, but any government would have adopted the Florentine-based Standard. You talk as if the Savoy were massive Florentineboo when in fact French was more used than Standard Italian within their Royal court.
Yeah that's true
>sweetheart
this is where I joined the Italian's side
It's called Old Norse
Norwegian will be the Scandinavian federation language.
Just listen to these:
>Swedish
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>Danish
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>Norwegian
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aaaaand the winner is Norwegian
It is definitely much better than mainland norse languages right now
Oh... forgot Icelandic and Finnish
>Icelandic
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>Finnish
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it should be elfdalian so none except a few farmers are privileged
The Norwegian version is best of course, yes of course.
>Why don't they develop a common Standard language?
Because we already speak dialects of a common standard language that have diverged. That being said, there have been some abominations in the past
>there have been some abominations in the past
like?
If elfdalian became the official language of Sweden, that would be cool
I refuse to speak English with my Swedish or Danish brethren, but sometimes hipsters from Stockholm insist on speaking English with me. I can understand Swedish and Danish in writing and spoken, and I can understand færøysk and icelandic in written form.
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It's more tempting to speak English with "some" Danes though... usually I can understand Swedes.
Regular "radio" Danish is very understandable though. It's just those weird potatoe dialects some of them have.
Danish people are fairly easy to understand when they speak slowly and more pronounced. As far as I can tell, they can use both abbreviated forms and full forms of words, and when they use full forms its basically like bokmål/riksmål spoken by a really old person. It also helps speaking with danes that have lived in Norway, or places in Denmark that get a lot of visitors from Sweden and Norway. The only danes who didn't understand me in København were the brown-skinned taxi drivers desu.
It’s not like that, retard. Sicilian and Venetian are not mutually intelligible with each other or Tuscan. Italian languages are vastly more different than Norwegian and Swedish
This song I can understand 99% of the lyrics
"radio" Danish is not that hard.
>The only danes who didn't understand me in København
Copenhagen is not the worst place (it's more "radio Danish")