he's saying depending on the user's tolerance (ignorance) level, even the simplest thing can be accused of being an SJW thing. like someone will announce an animated adaptation of "guess who's coming to dinner" and some people will call it SJW trash (even though the original material predates SJW).
Shows with lgbt characters that arent SJW garbage
Liam Phillips
Jose James
you guys' threshhold for SJW garbage is really low though. If even a single character mentions that maybe it was hard for them growing up because they were gay, you lose your mind and start frothing at the mouth about 'agendas'. You kind of prefer it if the gay characters are silent and never mention their orientation, because frankly, that's how you'd prefer LGBTQ people act in real life. Being reminded of someone elses different sexual orientation makes you so uncomfortable, you'd rather plug your ears and close your eyes and hope they don't exist.
Ryder Parker
Your favorite show where you don't know the character's sexual preference. Real Gay representation is Apathy. Straight people don't go around telling people how straight they are because it's the norm. That's what acceptance IS.
Ian Torres
Just write good and interesting characters/relationships first and foremost, and don’t make a big cringy deal about their sexuality. Have them interact with plenty of other characters aside from their gay love interest, give them important relationships besides their gay love interest, and make sure the gay relationship is a fun and/or interesting dynamic that even people who aren’t normally into gay shit can enjoy watching and get invested in.
And make them cute/cool/hot/what have you.
Anything that’s done for brownie points and not pure passion is bad.
Someday I will make good gay shit when I improve my art
Nicholas Perez
>so whats the key to writing LGBT content that doesnt come off as SJW shit?
Good writing.
I'm serious, you can have characters like The Alchemist in Venture Bros who's openly gay, talks about being gay all the time, and all the trappings with it, but because his character fits so well and his jokes are great people don't care. Film and movies get away with a lot of things if the writing is good, if the scenes are well constructed, the dialog isn't jarring and annoying and the message is interwoven into the grander narrative to the point that stating it would be redundant, it speaks well enough without stopping to lecture anyone and does it better than said lectures. Massive twists can be celebrated for decades like Vader revealing to Luke he's his father, or it can cause a massive amount of the audience to check out and just not come back to the property as a whole when everything else is badly written, like Luke throwing the lightsaber over his shoulder in TLJ.
The key is stunningly simple, don't dumb down your content because you "Want your message to be heard and clear even to the 'Uneducated' in the audience", put in the effort to make the world and characters consistent, don't resort to lecturing and accept that if the audience didn't get the message then that's fine, and for gods sake stop with the strawmen pointing to real life figures, better villains mean better stories. If you have to include them, make them engaging enough people want to see them on screen. SJW isn't hated because it has those themes any more than Blade was hated because the lead was black, its because around the time they introduced it they got this weird idea that it shielded them from critique, leading to dozens of hopeful projects flopping onto the scene in a pile because they were so sure an SJW Ghostbusters couldn't be shit on because it was "Important". If this message is so damn important, than prove it by putting in the effort to make its vehicle good.
Ryder Morgan
Sometimes you can't just ignore it, because its not always easy and normal and good by everyone's standards. Its like portraying a family where the parents are 100% always supportive and nice and never yell no matter what, pure fantasy bullshit. But that only really applies when you're modeling real life. If its a cartoon with explicitly no consequences then why bother inserting politics instead of just portraying the ideal- that gays and lesbians are just seen as any normal couple would be in the setting.
Jason Hughes
He-man?
Ayden Garcia
Beat me to it. I liked how they handled it, they were regular parents just like everyone else
Lincoln Flores
>so whats the key to writing LGBT content that doesnt come off as SJW shit?
Romance and relationships are narrative devices and should be treated as such.
Doing it for patronising reasons or to tick off the diversity checkbox makes it stand out like a sore thumb.
If you cannot answer why one of your certain characters needs his/her sexuality disclosed, don't do it.
John Long
>straight people don't go around telling everyone how straight they are
Taking every opportunity to mention how fuckable you find whoever is being talked about counts as telling everyone how straight you are when they're of the opposite sex
So does ranting about how some character's new design isn't sexy enough, complaining if a show has male nudity but not female nudity or visa versa when you're of the opposite sex, and I could go on but I'd hit the character limit. Its all inseperably going "I'm straight, I'm straight, look how straight I am
And oh, sure, not all straights, but have you ever sat and tallued up how many straight characters written by straight people have "loves to fuck the opposite sex" as their core character trait?