>This page sums up what I appreciate about Hydra Cap. He's definitely messed up with certain ideals, but he genuinely a kinder world (or at least more stable than what we got meow).
What is Hydra Cap doing now?
Looking back, did this really warrant all the outrage?
Justin Lee
Thomas Fisher
You're 100% right about that.
Dylan Baker
From understand, alive and well. Wade visited him in prison with the intent to kill him but decided against it.
>Stevil is a righteous bastard.
Brandon Reyes
Yeah. The original intention was clearly for this to be the new status quo, and was only changed due to outrage.
Ayden Collins
It was mostly the era it happened in.
2014-16 all most every big Super in Marvel is getting diversity-ed
Apologists come out in full force with "WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY THE OLD ONES SEE THEY'RE STILL HERE"
Even though Thor was rendered a pathetic cuck who didn't even have a book. Ironman was comma'd and Steve well just wasn't himself it didn't help that Spencer was being a massive lying faggot about it
>NUH UH THIS IS SUPER FOR REAL NOT A FAKE STEVE, BRAINWASHING OR AN AU!
when due to the nature of reality warping he's by definition an AU (as we can see with the real one coming back)
I admit I never read Spencers run but I did pick up Secret Empire to try it out.
It was full of the most pretentious teenager thinks he's deep narration boxes. You could see how up his own ass Spencer was when he wrote them each one takes you further and further up it because
>I'M WRITING CAPTAIN AMERICA IN CURRENT YEAR. THIS IS DEEP AND RELEVANT TO MODERN DAY RESIST!
Until you're so far up you exit though his mouth by the end of it.
David Perez
I believe they kept saying this is now official Canon and now Captain America was always officially a Hydra Agent .
Ayden Price
It sounds like something similar to how Slott and others were trying way too hard to claim that Peter Parker was permanently dead. This time though HydraCap backfired on them hard because they were trying to chase a different audience and the political climate was probably the wrong time to do it.
Charles Morales
pretty much. could have been better received but with the marvel train wreck at the time, the whole "totally really true", and just the way it ended smothered it in the long run. and maybe this is kinda of dumb, but marvel comics seems to love to give shit to a character right around the time a movie was coming out or getting popular. like iron man becoming the bad guy of civil war right about the same time the first movie was coming out. i'm not usually one for make tie in changes, but i would think it would have been better for business to do a classic style safe run to appeal to the normies. like cap fighting evil organizations and mad scientists and cyborgs.
Jonathan Evans
>the political climate was probably the wrong time to do it.
Everyone says this but I honestly think it wasn't the political timing it was the Era of Marvel.
The series was absolutely out to ride a wave Spencer made that clear with the Red Skull speech. The biggest obstacle it faced was having a lot of other big names out of the picture. It's not a matter of how long they waited it would've come across as preachy
>#RESIST
cope anyway except MAYBE it wouldn't have aroused as much attention outside of an election year which for it would've been the worst of both worlds. Same backlash less attention. If the other big characters where around then that could've been deflected/shielded somewhat by whatever non-"Their going evil" storyline they had at the time but Steve being alone drew all the attention to himself and kept it there.
John Hill
>love to give shit to a character right around the time a movie was coming out or getting popular.
Now you got me scared about the Kamala TV show.