>"A human should not be able to defeat White Martians with prep-time! DC is so garbage and unrealistifc!"
>"YOOOOO, Dr. Doom can defeat a whole civilization of omnipotent beings using prep-time! This is so awesome and relatable! Make Mine Marvel!"
Other than pure brand loyalty, what can explain such phenomenon?
maybe because batman is just rich and dr doom have powers?
They weren’t omnipotent. Doom himself pointed out they couldn’t time travel. How exactly they beat Abstracts with time powers, I’m not sure, but whatever, Hickman is a hack
Doom is based.
Batman is a cuck.
Powers that he simply "trained" to have.
>complaining that superhero comic books are unrealistic
>wanting superheroes to be “””””relatable”””””
Do people really do this
>Do people really do this
Have you never talked to a Marvelfag? They ca't shut up about how Marvel characters are the most relatable of all time.
Doom is supposed to be the smartest person in his universe. Batsoupman is just a hardcore furry that fights a clown
>relatable
When will this meme end? I have nothing common with captain America or the X-men or whatever but I like reading those comic books.
>but the superheroes argue with each other like real people!
That’s just pointless bickering, just figure out how to fix the problem and do the shit and get out
>The intelligence of this fictional character from Marvel is acceptable, but the intelligence of this other fictional character from DC isn't
You Marvelfags are a chore, huh?
Which of the two characters started studying and travelling the world to be one of the best since he was 8?
People complain about Batman being able to defeat aliens and metas because they fear that he might end up outshining Superman. It's mostly Superman fans that want Batman to remain in his Gotham ghetto. They're super insecure.
>relatable
Kek no.
And those Superman fans are also Dr. Doom cocusuckers, and that's why Doom is praised for being a hundred thousand times more forced than Batman?
I really doubt that.
Fuck Batman and fuck DC!
It's not about acceptability. Doom's character is that he's an absolute super-genius. Batman's just clever.
>Marvel characters are the most relatable of all time.
Because they are. Sorry DC only has one dimensional boring shit characters.
What makes Doom a "super-genius" and what makes Batman "merely clever"?
What makes Doom defeating omnipotent beings with prep-time "good writing" and Batman defeating one white martian with prep-time "BatWank"?
Based. Marvel is Reddit so.y tier.
There's no need to conflate the two. Dr. Doom cocksuckers are MARVEL fans. They don't care about Superman. So that's why they see no problem with Dr. Doom kicking gods' asses.
The people that constantly complain about Batwank or the fact that he's a JL member, or that he's shown defeating alien, and so on and so forth are DC fans, and big Superman fans, that feel that Batman's constantly stealing the spotlight that should rightfully belong to only Superman.
>The people that constantly complain about Batwank or the fact that he's a JL member, or that he's shown defeating alien, and so on and so forth are DC fans, and big Superman fans, that feel that Batman's constantly stealing the spotlight that should rightfully belong to only Superman.
Do you have any evidence of that?
I only ever see Marvelfags complaining about Batman being "too much", all the while they praise character like Valeria Richards, a toddler, doing way more absurd things.
T. Has never read a single dc comic book
Have you seriously never seen Superman fans complaining about DC always giving Batman the attention that should have been rightfully given Superman? Superman fans are the most insecure and annoying bitches there are. They constantly complain about the character not being as popular as they think he should, giving a bunch of stupid reason for it like legit saying the reason Superman isn't selling is because the world has gone to shit and everyone's too cynical. As if everybody should be forced to like their favorite hero just because.
dr doom is smart, batman is just a rich asshole
and i'm saying this as a dc fag
>Have you seriously never seen Superman fans complaining about DC always giving Batman the attention that should have been rightfully given Superman?
I have never seen Superman fans complaining about Batwank, no. 100% of the time, it's always Marvel fanatics. At most, a Marvelfag that pretends to be a DCfag, like 25 before Dr. Doom was created, Batman was already smart. What makes Dr. Doom's smartness more acceptable? What makes Batman's smartness unnaceptable?
Why Dr. Doom defeating an army of omnipotents is good writing, while Batman defeating white martians is Batwank?
>I have never seen Superman fans complaining about Batwank, no.
Then you're fucking blind.
Or maybe you're making shit up.
All the people hat hate Batwank also hate Superman. Ultimately, what they hate is DC.
Why do you think that Yas Forums complains about Batman defeating White Martians, but praises Dr. Doom being immortal because "his willpower is too big for him to die"? It's brand loyalty.
SHUT THE FUCK UP TOMMY BEFORE I COOF AT YOU!
Yeah, it’s like a fucking cult, get over yourself
>2020
>Doom still makes TOMMEH seethe
Based.
>Literally 10 anti-Batman threads per day
"BASED Yas Forums. Such an awesome board!"
>One anti-Doomwank thread once in a blue moon
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH CAN SOMEONE PLEASE STOP TOMMEH!"
The best period to mess with the Superman fans was back during the New 52, when Superman and Wonder Woman were a couple - lots of the really obnoxious Superman fans are SMWW shippers. Every time they'd say that Superman and Wonder Woman belong together because they're equals due to being the most powerful DC characters, i'd then conclude that if this means that Wonder Woman can kick Superman's ass. The ensue shitstorm would be hilarious as they'd make a complete 180 to whine about how Wonder Woman never in a billion years be able to even touch Superman.
Writers making batman an invicible omnipotent deity made him boring and annoying, that's the truth. You don't have to be a marvelfag to know that
>Writers making batman an invicible omnipotent deity made him boring and annoying
Which has never happened.
Has Batman ever defeated an army of omnipotent beings using prep-time? If he did something as ridiculous, do you think DCfags would call it "good writing"?
Why Marvel characters defeating armies of omnipotent beings using prep-time is "good writing", bu Batman defeating white martians using prep-time is "too much"? I have never found a single Marvel fan able to answer this.
To be fair, before Doomwank and Doomfags, the idea of Doom being one of the most dangerous people on earth was cool. He was a twisted version of the human dream, to be more than your limits. He proved to the universe that a mere man could master forces beyond our scope, yet had a twisted sense of morality to fit his ego. Doom only sucks when you make him a hero or make him right all the time, otherwise he’s a funhouse mirror version of man’s potential.
>To be fair, before Doomwank and Doomfags
When the fuck was that? Doomwank is older than me, and Doomfags have been around ever since I started reading comics.
What makes Doom defeating an army of omnipotent beings using "prep-time" good writing? What makes Batman defeating white martians using prep-time "too much"?
Doom has powered armour that would give Irno man a run for his money, is on the level of intellect as Mr Fantastic, and is as powerful a saucerer as Dr. Strange, he's probably the biggest Gary Stu in the history of comics
>Doom
>Magic, candidate for sorcerer supreme, pure hearted and guardian of mankind
>Batman
>not magic, terminal case of wanking
Also villains are more fun than heroes
It's kinda funny to think that DC being fictional in Marvel, Doom probably grew up being a BatFag and loved all the edgy BatWank.
So we all agree Doom could easily trounce Superman right, hes a master sorcerer and Superman couldn't even touch him due to his diplomatic immunity
>Tommy is still seething even after the Doom ongoing gave him an origin story
>Superman couldn't even touch him due to his diplomatic immunity
Superman doesn't care about this. Dude as throwing punches at Lex when Lex was POTUS, it won't be a shitty-ass dictator from a country smaller than Maine that will intimidate him.
Outside of that Dr.Strange mini when has he ever use magic?
Shit like this makes me believe in Morrison's Chaos Magick.
Doom's best story doesn't even touch Batman's so-so stories.
>I care about letting mankind lead themselves
>except when I don't and directly involve myself in government affairs
Why doesn't Superman just put the world in a bottle
One is a detective who fights muggers and mental patients wearing anthro battle armor that isn't even bulletproof all over.
The other is an inventor and a sorceror wearing battle armor of his own bullshit sci-fi wizard design.
No one particularly cares if bats hops out in the hellbat and beats the shit out of a white Martian, but it begs the question "what the fuck is he even doing on a regular night and why"
Like if Tony Stark put away the armor to be Daredevil for a while. Fucking why, numbnuts?
But that's the rules of Batman as a franchise. These artificial "regular man" rules that say that this genius ninja billionaire detective has to win with just planning, when planning and fisticuffs just isn't sufficient to take out a telepathic, shapeshifting, phasing, invulnerable and superstrong foe.
But he does anyways, which is dumb, instead of using the rules of the actual universe he lives in, going to the basement and zapping that white Martian with a mother box.
If we're comparing them, Doom is like if Batman put a mother box into his hellbat and then never took it off again. No one would be particularly surprised if MOBOHellBat dropped a Martian, or a whole shitload of martians, or honestly even a New God or three. Although we probably would get the interminable "Darkseid is bigger than all dimensions and can't ever lose" argument a lot.
It's a reference to an old crossover.
Yas Forums doesn't read comics
Yas Forums doesnt play video games
Yas Forums only watches seasonal moe shit
Fairly simple really.
Batman's premise is he often, even if not always, fights street level evils. Mobsters, ninjas, sometimes robots and the supernatural but not often enough it's his bread and butter in Gotham.
Doom meanwhile is the antagonist of many an abnormal figure, or his own threats are the like of dimensional demons, extraterrestrials and abstract entities. He is by default not grounded in the day to day of Latveria.
That sort of thing shapes the expectations of a character.
If you ignore context and try to draw what few similarities between the two you can to contrive an argument, yes it will seem at odds, but if you were to simply swap the two characters in their settings you'd immediately see how and why one works as they do where they do and not otherwise. A wealthy, gothic dictator Bruce, no matter how skilled, without significant sorcery and super science, and not just gadgets, the odd power armor and some tricks Zatanna taught him would not be able to seriously challenge the FF, X-Men and Avengers much.
Vice versa were Doom in Gotham why he'd be so hassled by the operations of mafioso while he's blasting lasers and constructing force fields would raise eyebrows.
Certain character have to remain relatively grounded so certain challengers fit them, and others have to be elevated so they're a fitting challenge to other characters.
>10 anti-batman threads a day
I would like to travel to your universe, because batwank threads are the Steven Universe threads of the comic side of this board.
>If you don't let a ruler personally beat you up, you're a fascist
What a cuck mentality.
He's from reddit, that's why.
>yes daddy superman you should take over the world
No wonder you've been pozzed
Batman was already defeating vampires and aliens before Doom was an idea in Stan Lee's coked up mind.
Also, isn't Marvel supposed to be the one that is "grounded and realistic"? Why Marvel fans consider Doom becoming immortal because "he has too much willpower to die" realistic?
If Batman was immortal due to "muh willpower", would Yas Forums praise it?
>I would like to travel to your universe, because batwank threads are the Steven Universe threads of the comic side of this board.
You're fucking crazy.
>capeshit company wars autism
May Corona-chan take you all
>Batman was already defeating vampires and aliens
You gleefully skipped over a step, Tommy, is it his bread and butter?
When you ask people who Batman fights do they tell you Dracula and E.T.?
>If Batman was immortal due to "muh willpower", would Yas Forums praise it?
He survived the Omega Effect and it was met with quite some adulation.
Fpbp
And
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How did Superman get his citizenship?
>He survived the Omega Effect
He didn't, he was transported to the past to build up energy with each time jump in order to explode the universe once he reached modern times.
And that would alive happened if Tim Drake didn't stop it.
If Batman became immortal due to having "too much willpower", like Dr. Doom, would Yas Forums praise it?
The difference is that Batman always wins in the end, and Doom always loses.
How are you this dumb?
>and Doom always loses.
And all his defeats are immediately retconned.
"FOOL, IT WASN'T ME, IT WAS JUST A ROBOT THAT LOOKED LIKE ME!!1!"
Is this what makes Dr. Doom defeating an army of omnipotent beings such good writing?
stop making this thread tommy you loser the “make mine marvel” gives you away literally every time
WHAT
Always gotta rip me off don't you, Bruce?
Every Batfag claims that he's a good character because he's an underdog so writers have to bend over backwards to try and make him appear weak while still being able to defeat gods.
The appeal/glory of Doom is that he's a man who came from nothing but aspired to kill gods.
At the heart of it, one of these character is better sorted for stories that are more grounded and the other character works better in fantastical stories. Because of this it makes more sense when one of these characters can accomplish fantastical things.
>At the heart of it, one of these character is better sorted for stories that are more grounded and the other character works better in fantastical stories. Because of this it makes more sense when one of these characters can accomplish fantastical things.
Isn't supposed to be the fantastic one, while Marvel is "the world outside your window", grounded and realistic and shit?
He didn’t survive it, Darkseid specifically manipulated his Omega Beams to not erase him but make him a chronal energy bomb