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Are you a fucking retard? He relates to it because it’s true to actual trauma. That’s like saying a show about firefighters isn’t realistic because the only people who think it is are firefighters.

You could say the same thing about Naruto and Shippuden, except Shippuden retconned a bunch of things to the point that the thematic core of the show was essentially rewritten.

SU and SUF have similar differences.

I wasn’t suicidal when my dad used to beat me but now that I’ve moved out, I consider a lot lately.

Steven and the Stevens definitely qualifies as traumatic.

>there are plenty of moments throughout the show where he genuinely had fun
Woah, you mean traumatized people have emotions and experiences other than fear and misery?

>but Future is taking it way out of hand.
It's not. Steven is taking it out of hand, because all his bad experiences have caught up with him now that he's got little to do but reflect, and it's affected his responses to normal things. And he's a teenager, emotional volatility at that age is normal.

He was fine at the beginning of the show because 1. most bad things haven't happened to him yet and 2. he was a kid who didn't know any better and had a naive view of his crazy life as being cool and magical like his video games.

One moment that sticks out is when he took Connie to the movies - he took her to his mom's armory, and as dumb kids they at first thought all this shit was just totally wicked. But the fact we were looking at a bunch of weapons of war was a stark contrast to their innocence and carried disturbing implications.

But throughout the show, we've each passing season we saw Steven grow more troubled, tired and aware of just how bad everything is. He still had fun every now and then, but those moments became fewer and fewer. His upbeat and carefree spirit was being beat down by reality before our eyes, it's not something that Future is suddenly pushing.

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im sorry to hear that. stay strong brother. get help if you can.

except that despite all his trauma, Steven always had love and support from his family and friends to survive. He had a dangerous childhood, but that doesn't mean it was abusive. It's like saying Hogwarts for Harry Potter was an abusive experience and worse than his adoptive parents because the kid almost died every semester.

oh god a fucking pity party sob fest

Nothing major has been retconned in SUF though. The first five seasons could get just as serious as Future, it just wasn't nearly every episode.