Old SU

>what’s one plus one? And don’t give this “2” bullshit
>no it’s not 2 don’t say 2 YOURE WRONG ITS NOT 2

>opinions are facts FUCK YOU

>he thinks his opinion is as objective as math
insane

>opinions
Op thinks that Steven can’t be traumatized because he had fun as kid, completely ignoring that the show isn’t trying to say that every waking moment was traumatic just that the stuff that are obviously shitty
One plus one equals 2 and op doesn’t know how ptsd works

It’s pretty objective that being in life threatening danger on a consistent basis will have psychological repercussions

you literally just proved OP could see 20 minutes into the future with this post

that isnt what steven is stressed about. he didnt give a shit about any of the monsters. it was always about his shitty relationships with everyone around him that only got reinforced by the fact that the person he previously was was an egomaniac that lived off whims until she had to kill herself to get away from all the problems she created

Because he knew what the obvious argument was and predicting that people were going to make it, said it was invalid without explaining why

When he’s in the doctors office and talking about his childhood all that flashbacks are to times when he was either in danger or saw his family members killed in front of him, that would count as trauma

>this thread

Saying there's one factor to how Steven's feeling in Future, clearly shows you haven't been watching even this short-ass series.

Steven's always had identity issues his whole life with his Mom.
Being raised in a van, and then by aliens that haven't acclimated to earth culture in all the years they've been there, while they're still grieving the loss of their leader. No school, no proper discipline or schedule.

He made friends in townie episodes, but that was banking on him being an energetic young kid, and his insistence to get in other's business.

Gem stuff became less fun when Jasper appeared, and there was actual levity to his destiny. Coupled with the hunt for the truth that he clearly didn't like (if you've been watching the same show).

SU:F has been showcasing that Steven can't function now that his childhood goals are accomplished. He doesn't know who he is, what he wants. And as we saw with Mr. Universe, he's not going to get it the same way Greg did. His friends are moving on to what they want to do. There's no fight, but he's feeling stressed when nothing goes his way, going flight or fight response.

The trauma of his childhood isn't appearing until now, because he never reflected on it back then.

That Steven's PTSD couldn't manifest because he was constantly in a stressful environment is a faulty premise. If the Cookie Cat Centipeetle episode, nearly drowning under the sea with Connie, the Time crystal episode, the magic moss episode, if all that was really so traumatizing to him, why didn't his PTSD manifest after he was removed from those environments? This was back in Season 1 when there was no (as far as Steven knew, anyway) overwhelming threat looming over them all. So why wasn't his PTSD manifesting?

It's almost like Rebecca Sugar is trying to tell a more "serious" story with the SU cast and as usual doesn't care about continuity or how the entire framework of SUF doesn't align with SU, like any hack writer she'll just retcon the shit that is inconvenient to her newest fancy and roll with it.

Is THAT better?

stop bumping this

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Triggered.

Do you not understand that Steven was sheltered for most of his fucking life?

I fail to see how that's relevant.

Reminder that Sugar didn't write a single ep of Future yet. It's all mostly new writers, with a few ones of the original show as well.

So once something bad happens to you, you're never ever happy or carefree again and if you are that means you've suffered zero negative side effects from your bad experiences?

I sure am glad you faggots aren't writing this show.

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WHY DIDN'T THEY EVER SHOW one of his supposed "bad-day" PTSD episodes alongside the good days then?

>why didn't his PTSD manifest after he was removed from those environments?
Because the environment never changed even if Steven was given a day or so break before a new stressful situation arose, People who’ve been in an abusive household or to war don’t start having flashbacks the moment they’re away form their parents or away from the battlefield, they have to get out first

Your timeline is way off for how this works

>What is Full Disclosure and Storm in the Room?
You clearly haven't been watching the show

What do people see in this show ? What's the appeal ? It's just....dull. It's not idiotic or hard to watch, but it's dull and lacks excitement. It barely even feels like it should be an animated show with how chatty and down to earth it is.

Because the “good days” we’re still in the midst of all the other shit going and predicting new stress doesn’t let you calm down enough for ptsd to come out

If you’re problem is only that SU didn’t show ptsd in a timeframe you agree with than why make a post about it?

This isn't a BoJack Horseman thread, user.

Yeah, and surprise surprise the entire homeworld threat was a whole lot of nothing. Multiple seasons worth of anxiety and buildup for nothing. There were no stakes in this show and there never will be.

I've seen Bojack, and it's a far better show imo. The writing and character interactions are far better written and more engaging to watch, plus the fact that it's an adult show means it has far more creative freedom to push more boundaries than this.

Both those episodes are after Mirror Gem, the first episode Steven realizes there is more going on than he knows.

Personally, I lost interest after Season 2,

I was a wacky fat kid, and I was borderline suicidal. Everyone just thought I was just a goofball, and once they realized how unhappy I was they were shocked.

Also, most comedians are also extremely unhappy.

People use silliness to cover over their misery all the time.

It’s been my experience that the people who seem to be the most outwardly happy are actually the most miserable because they have to convince themselves and others they're fine.

SUF is a different series from SU.

Except none of the shit you just typed up in your blog is true since Steven Universe is told exclusively from STEVEN'S PERSPECTIVE.

I don't agree with OP but that's bullshit and you know it, user.

>same canon
>same characters
>same locations
>same themes

It's season 6.

Look, OP, I don't know what combination of words to write to justify my position, but you're wrong. I had an abusive childhood, and this show has nearly made me cry lately. It's so accurate and relatable to me that it hurts. The surface irrationality of his actions and drawing into himself, the jealousy of people who had normal childhoods, the sudden and intense anger, support network that is ignored because it consists of people who enabled the traumatic events and thus you can't connect with...

Think about it, man. How well would you REALLY take a giant monster attacking you, or your childhood caregivers and yourself nearly dying countless times? Obviously this hasn't happened to anybody here - just something analogous to it, like domestic violence, but that only makes my point stronger. It takes years for prolonged trauma to register in your psyche and take root. When it's happening to you, if you're led to believe it's "normal", you won't have any idea what is, and when you escape from that, you'll fall apart. This show is one of the most succinctly accurate depictions of (at least domestic-based) PTSD I've ever seen.

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Fuck this fucking worthless thread.

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HEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE we go, people defending SU just because they see themselves in some aspect of it.

...yes

A traumatic life isn’t just made of traumas. Steven has to deal with things a kid shouldn’t deal with. That said he still had a lot of good times in his childhood. Those slice of life episodes are the good times.

But you have no legitimate defense for the show or its shit writing, you just give it a pass because you relate to X character. You are a sheep.

>people like a thing because they can relate to

god forbid that happens user

I agree with this user. Somehow sex wasn’t traumatic when I was in the middle of my schizophrenic break and it’s psycho-sexual violent impulses but not I can’t deal with sex without breaking down. It takes time for this shit to ruin you, you’ll only realize after it all ends..

Are you a fucking retard? He relates to it because it’s true to actual trauma. That’s like saying a show about firefighters isn’t realistic because the only people who think it is are firefighters.

You could say the same thing about Naruto and Shippuden, except Shippuden retconned a bunch of things to the point that the thematic core of the show was essentially rewritten.

SU and SUF have similar differences.

I wasn’t suicidal when my dad used to beat me but now that I’ve moved out, I consider a lot lately.

Steven and the Stevens definitely qualifies as traumatic.

>there are plenty of moments throughout the show where he genuinely had fun
Woah, you mean traumatized people have emotions and experiences other than fear and misery?

>but Future is taking it way out of hand.
It's not. Steven is taking it out of hand, because all his bad experiences have caught up with him now that he's got little to do but reflect, and it's affected his responses to normal things. And he's a teenager, emotional volatility at that age is normal.

He was fine at the beginning of the show because 1. most bad things haven't happened to him yet and 2. he was a kid who didn't know any better and had a naive view of his crazy life as being cool and magical like his video games.

One moment that sticks out is when he took Connie to the movies - he took her to his mom's armory, and as dumb kids they at first thought all this shit was just totally wicked. But the fact we were looking at a bunch of weapons of war was a stark contrast to their innocence and carried disturbing implications.

But throughout the show, we've each passing season we saw Steven grow more troubled, tired and aware of just how bad everything is. He still had fun every now and then, but those moments became fewer and fewer. His upbeat and carefree spirit was being beat down by reality before our eyes, it's not something that Future is suddenly pushing.

please use catalog to reduce the number of redundant threads that are created

im sorry to hear that. stay strong brother. get help if you can.

except that despite all his trauma, Steven always had love and support from his family and friends to survive. He had a dangerous childhood, but that doesn't mean it was abusive. It's like saying Hogwarts for Harry Potter was an abusive experience and worse than his adoptive parents because the kid almost died every semester.

oh god a fucking pity party sob fest

Nothing major has been retconned in SUF though. The first five seasons could get just as serious as Future, it just wasn't nearly every episode.

>But throughout the show, we've each passing season we saw Steven grow more troubled, tired and aware of just how bad everything is. He still had fun every now and then, but those moments became fewer and fewer. His upbeat and carefree spirit was being beat down by reality before our eyes, it's not something that Future is suddenly pushing.
This is absolutely not true. Steven was ALLWAYS positive in every season of SU. No matter how bad things got, he always was determined to make the most of it. Of course he did went through some messed up stuff, but it was not like he progressively became more depressed, he only became this way in Future. And Future itself ignores a lot of Stevens lessons, like learning to accept change, to justify his new shitty behavior.

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