Post plot holes in major cartoons that no one talks about
Pic related, if Tootie has a worse life than Timmy Turner, why doesn't she have fairy godparents of her own?
Post plot holes in major cartoons that no one talks about
Xavier Torres
Nathan Howard
Because she can’t keep a secret. She probably had them but everyone got mindwiped. Timmy went back in time and fucked up Crocker so bad that not even Jorgen remembers.
Levi Ross
I thought the explanation was because her crush on Timmy keeps her happy enough to not need any.
Ayden Lee
her parents at least loves her. timmy's? not so much.
Hunter Howard
Maybe she had them then immediately lost them.
That or shes happier than Timmy despite Vicky.
Julian King
That sounds like bullshit.
Possible, but in this episode they explicitly stated that she was more miserable than timmy.
Jayden Morgan
James Green
>That sounds like bullshit
All of that has been covered in episodes. If you don’t like it then stop asking.
Alexander Hall
It was not covered in the episode.
Ian Gonzalez
Camden Murphy
We get it you don't care, go fuck off then.
Thanks for the bumps though faggot
Chase Brown
My headcannon is that she had them and broke da rules so her fairies and memories got wiped off
Caleb Butler
Nobody cares
Gabriel Gutierrez
This question gets asked, and this same answer posted, very often. It's not really correct, if Tootie had a fairy but lost it, it's something they would have really explicitly said in the show.
FoP isn't exactly subtle.
Tootie isn't really fleshed out enough to be definitive if she "can't keep secrets" because part of her Channel Chasers persona was a secret (albeit poorly kept) agent but everyone was too dumb to know it was her.
Lucas Johnson
1. This show was poorly written shit that failed to exploit its cast and by the episode in your pic Hartman was really starting to phone it in
2. Hartman didn't think kids watching related to Tootie as much as they did with a middle aged psychotic school teacher, a moronic cartoon Dad 2x human and fairy edition, or an evil infant, so he never used her to her fullest potential.
3. Tootie was not that popular a character until after Channel Chasers, when the show was on the verge of its first cancellation. Still kind of dumb she lost focus after Poof tho
4. Trixiefags would have bitched, they already invented a "Tootie can't have fairies because muh secrets" narrative you see oft repeated even today
5. The show was chaotic enough with just Timmy fucking up shit and also Tootie's main purpose was to be an anti-Vicky and shipping bait she doesn't necessarily need magic to do that
Still would have been better than Chloe tbqh.
Jose Nguyen
No it hasn't. If it was people wouldn't keep asking. You just interpreted the OP episode a completely retarded way no one but you saw. Saying "she probably did but lost them blah blah" is a shitty explanation for a massive plot hole.
Christopher Wright
I care
Zachary Barnes
this show is not as deep as you fags like to pretend it is
Kayden Baker
This show not being lore shit does not mean character development doesn't happen. Mark Chang started out as an enemy of Timmy but became his friend.
Lincoln Miller
Is there art of an older hotter Tootie? I feel like the has all the makings of a waifu but I've never paid attention to her before. Give her some normal glasses and up her height and she's fine, she already has the leggings.
Anthony Gomez
garabatoz, bluejr, toonberculosis, neoslashott are some of the artists I recall doing a lot of tootie stuff. You have to look for gara's older works though his new shit is all ntr
Anthony Morgan
Henry Campbell
The real question is, why didn't Chester get any?
Noah Murphy
He wasn't unhappy.
Nolan Smith
Jack Moore
i actually like "ugly" girls for some reason. Something about the idea of an unkept beauty is fascinating to me
Aiden Robinson
Attempting to house godparents in Tootie's house would be too dangerous. It's been confirmed before that Vicky has the entire place under close surveillance.
Jack Hughes
She's a woman
Ryder Evans
She almost blabbed about having Cosmo and Wanda when Timmy wished they were hers for a day (it was her birthday and I think it was one of the earlier episodes). She talked too much for them too explain "Da Rules" and Timmy had to intervene.
also this.
Charles Butler
Everyone talks about that plot hole, OP.
Anyway, in Emperor's New Groove, Yzma's plan is predicated on no one knowing that she was fired as Kuzco's adviser except for her, Kronk and Kuzco. Except there's another person who knows. When Kuzco fired Yzma, he had an assistant write up a pink slip. So not only is there another witness, but there's a paper trail to prove that Yzma was fired.
David Roberts
You ever think it's weird that Yzma was so eager to just kill Kuzco like that?
Like she's lead the nation as a regent ever since the guy's parents died and she's practically raised him from the time he was a baby, she even mentioned it once. I find it hard to believe she had zero emotional attachment to him.
Daniel Reed
Trixie shippers would have whined and complained too hard.
Gabriel Kelly
With what you said, it's also kinda weird that Kuzco had no qualms with firing his only parental figure.
Easton Cooper
Yzma resented having to raise a spoiled brat and Kuzco, well, was a spoiled brat. It's hard to say who was in the wrong though, maybe Yzma was just a shitty parent and she didn't own up to that.
Carter Morris
You first.
Cameron Evans
>Tootie has a worse life than Timmy Turner, why doesn't she have fairy godparents of her own?
1) Her love for Timmy keeps her just happy enough to not be completely miserable
2) Vicky keeps surveillance cameras and laser equipment all over the house
3) She doesn't believe in keeping secrets
Aaron Martinez
because despite being poor, his father wasn't a deadbeat. he actually tried, and that's more than most parents ever do.
Cameron Cooper
Sad that the series died with a wet diarrhea fart.
Jace Morris
I generally subscribe to the "Timmy's love keeps her happy" theory but the real reason is it's pointless to give her one as a character. Character wise she's almost in the exact same situation as Timmy so you wouldnt be doing much new by giving her fairies full time you couldnt already do with Timmy. It's also why they made Chloe as different from Timmy as possible.
She had a lot of post Poof appearances, I think people play up how important she was before Season 6.
Zachary Walker
Genuinely surprised Season 9 had 3 movies (even if they were live action) and Season 10 had none
Hell even Season 8 had both Timmy's Secret Wish and Meet the Oddparents.
Zachary Mitchell
This is the same show in which characters sometimes lose their fairies, yet they don't get mind wiped because the plot demands it. The writing is inconsistent
Jordan Baker
That's retarded.
Owen Powell
>1) Her love for Timmy keeps her just happy enough to not be completely miserable
Maybe but they should've explained it, even for the sake of shipping bait.
>2) Vicky keeps surveillance cameras and laser equipment all over the house
Timmy had his flying around in plain sight in Homewrecker no problem.
>3) She doesn't believe in keeping secrets
Disproved by Deep Toot and the live action stuff.
That meme doesn't even make sense here.
Tootie was an established foil to Timmy. Other than maybe her liking Crimson Chin, she was pretty much just as girly girly as Chloe was.
Also, she had like 4 appearances in season 5 including two of them being dedicated plots, and 2 glorified cameos from season 6 onward, and her connection with Vicky hell her entire family was dropped. Poof and beyond sucked, you can count the amount of memorable episodes on a maimed hand.
Juan Rogers
Huh.... now I get why they call her Tootie.
Brody King
In Shrek 2, the fairy tale creatures watch Shrek, Donkey and Puss get arrested on TV, and then go and save him in a dungeon. However, they were in Shrek's swamp, while Shrek was in Far, Far Away. Keep in mind, this all happens within a day, otherwise the effects of Shrek's potion wears off. So how did they get there in such a short amount of time? And how did they know Shrek would be locked up in a dungeon?
Jack Diaz
Seems like the only kids that get fairies are kids with parents that ignore them. Every other kind of shitty life does not qualify.
Alexander Brown
Chloe's character isnt being girly girly, it's alienating people with a life of constant work and activism.
Tootie's problems were distant parents and Vicky. She got F's at school and no friends. She had an unrequited crush. Tootie and Timmy were extremely similar characters and their motivations and potential lots would have been basically the same without making up new things for Tootie.
Luke Bennett
>She got F's at school
What? That never happened. Tootie was STEM as fuck.
Nathaniel Torres
I mean it was the one time she was shown in Timmy's class and everyone got F's, but this did also happen (and was in a great post Poof episode too). The big problem with FoP is that it was too inconsistent with the characters
Angel Wood
>Is there art of an older hotter Tootie?
Cooper Baker
>Hartman didn't think kids watching related to Tootie as much as they did with a middle aged psychotic school teacher, a moronic cartoon Dad 2x human and fairy edition
Hartman knew the true age group that was watching his shit.
Jose Thompson
This. Everyone seems to forget the episode where Timmy gave her Cosmo and Wanda for her birthday and then spends the entire episode trying to keep her from blaming to everyone that she has fairies. She probably had an entire tv special called “Meet Tooties fairies” that was broadcasted to every tv on the earth.
Benjamin Brown
His dad loved him and he had a good friend (AJ)
Blake Roberts
>The real question is, why didn't Chester get any?
Didn't one episode say he would have Cosmo and Wanda if Timmy didn't?
Gabriel Price
>Everyone seems to forget the episode where Timmy gave her Cosmo and Wanda for her birthday
No. Plenty of us are remembering it. We just aren't buying "it probably happened offscreen" as an explanation you smoothbrain.
Alexander Howard
chester was a fun character
Samuel Hughes
I mean it's a literal episode that shows Tootie having fairies, its the closest to a canon reason we ever got.
Not to mention, Timmy having fairies for just a year is seen as an anomaly, even if Tootie got them she canonically wouldnt have them very long unless she was also wierd enough to keep unto them for so long....which the episode shows she isnt.
Owen Reed
Birthday wish was brought up like a dozen times already. Its not that we aren't remembering it, its that the episode doesn't really solve OP's plot hole dilemma nor does anyone really buy that it was meant to explain away that plot hole besides vindictive Trixiesharts.
Thomas Walker
>people complaining about inconsistent writing in FoP but they don't even know the show gave up "don't have the fairies be seen by anyone" by the final season with no comment when they were around Timmy's parents and Vicky
Brandon King
It still doesn't solve the plot hole. The fairies don't presciently know Tootie is going to give them up.
Also the "Timmy is the only kid to have them for a year" story is retarded too. Channel Chasers (the superior movie) shows that plenty of kids keep them into their teens.
Jackson Walker
Also, Tootie did get access to the fairies in the live action movies, which was really the first time they started doing away with the secrecy rule
Samuel Allen
The show changed it from "people cant know fairies exist at all" to "people cant know the fairies are yours specifically" and about 4 other things in between.
I think you're getting your wording wrong here. It absolutely solves the plot hole and very easily. It's just not explicitly stated and so is more a fan reason than an official one. But it makes complete sense.
Ryder Mitchell
Lmao. It doesn't solve the plot hole. That's why this question is still a thing. It's just you have a bunch of autists who misinterpret a recycled "Crocker catches a fairy" episode as explaining why Tootie can't have a fairy, when its shown in a major movie for the show she undoubtedly can.