Are we hyped avabros? What's your expectations?

are we hyped avabros? What's your expectations?

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>The high ground

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What ever bullshit asspull they think up for United Earth Space Forces to return in a generation to pound Pandora flat.

They're multiple space ships and they show up a couple times a year. The ship they sent away takes few years to tet back to earth. Meanwhile most of the other ships are going to show up. They'll be full of mine workers, scientists, and soldiers.

Meanwhile back on earth the energy crisis caused by the loss of unobtainium. Will facilitate a global fascist movement. The new government will wait till it has multiple ships return from pandora. Then load up on soldiers and weapons. Sending the fleet out to reconquer the world for Humanity. In 12 to 24 years time. The fleet arrives and bombards the moon from orbit. The smurfs and traitor humans will be killed and moved to concentration camps. Where they will be enslaved to work the mines.

can't they like mine asteroids in our solar system?

considering it's called "high ground" and there's something looking like a meteorite on the cover I guess the humans will try to bomb Pandora from orbit, but there really isn't anything to bomb effectively and they don't have the resources for a prolonged bombardment so instead they negotiate a return to the surface with the na'vi which is were avatar 2 will pick up

Yes. That's the thing about Avatar, it's just plain fucking stupid when you take any time to actually think about it. Hell it's funny how Navi arrows don't do shit against the human machinery when they attack the retarded home tree but then all of a sudden are armor piercing when the humans unnecessarily attack the mind tree.

>Hell it's funny how Navi arrows don't do shit against the human machinery when they attack the retarded home tree but then all of a sudden are armor piercing when the humans unnecessarily attack the mind tree.
that's because they shoot from below when defending hometree and from above with the extra momentum from a dive when defending the tree of souls

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There was an early version of Avatar that said the unobtainium was 100% nessisary for human survival because its non-newtonian properties allows for FTL spaceships. Earth was on a fast track to a mass extinction event for humanity and you were supposed to go the entire story knowing Jake was letting humanity die off because he didn't think they were worth saving. So it was the moral dilemma, Do you kill off one small civilization to buy another giant one just a little more time, or do you let the large one die knowing the smaller one still has so much potential?

Go back to Yas Forums Neytiri spammer.

That's not actually Canon though

obviously. Its just there was once an explanation for things in the past but now there are none

That explanation didn't make a lick of sense.

They don't even need to bomb unless they need the unobtanium right now. Send an ambassador, with apologies and ask for an ability to establish a small embassy on an uninhabited island. No miners or soldiers unless na'vi themselves allow it. Make it an open doors embassy where anyone can walk in an be provided with some books and films about Earth. Play to curiosity. Especially for younger generations.

Within 5 years there will be na'vi who want to visit Earth. Provide them that. Show them Earth, medicine, machines, stars. Give them a chance to become students at some university. Within 20-30 years you will have a tribe willing to allow for establishment of some facilities on its land. Mostly medical and research ones at first. Then there will be trade.

Within 50-100 years na'vi will be mining and selling unobtanium to Earth themselves. Even if not in the same quantities initial corporations hoped.

>moral dilemma
don't care, I want blue kitty GF

>anyone can walk in an be provided with some books and films about Earth.

I think that's precisely why the planet started to send nature to kick humanity's ass.

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Nigga that doesn't add dick to the force a bow and arrow are providing especially on a planet who's gravity is less that of Earth's.

>avabros
no such thing

Because that's not gonna happen. The RDA had to hide the shit they were getting up to on Pandora because the UN, while weakened, still has some bite to it if provoked. Sapient rights and all that.
Oh, and unobtanium isn't really *that* necessary and it could probably be synthesised if the RDA wasn't suppressing research.

>RDA
Really dickish assholes?

maybe its all mind out
>What's your expectations?
I expect trash. I hope for blue genocide
I wonder if they will have earth die out or be taken over by AI due to time dilation

I think the navi will drive humanity to extinction and will have to pull back and show mercy to show off how much better than humanity they are. I expect human kids raised by blues

If worded like that the kill off is the better option. "potential" is a pipe dream. Now assuming that humanity would do nothing with the extra time gifted the answers shifts.

What do you mean?
>They don't even need to bomb unless they need the unobtanium right now
The reason they dont bomb will likely be that it damages the unobtanium
>Send an ambassador, with apologies and ask for an ability to establish a small embassy on an uninhabited island. No miners or soldiers unless na'vi themselves allow it. Make it an open doors embassy where anyone can walk in an be provided with some books and films about Earth. Play to curiosity. Especially for younger generations.

Within 5 years there will be na'vi who want to visit Earth. Provide them that. Show them Earth, medicine, machines, stars. Give them a chance to become students at some university. Within 20-30 years you will have a tribe willing to allow for establishment of some facilities on its land. Mostly medical and research ones at first. Then there will be trade.

Within 50-100 years na'vi will be mining and selling unobtanium to Earth themselves. Even if not in the same quantities initial corporations hoped.
Did you not watch the movie? They did that and it did not work. MC played it off like earth had nothing to offer and they dont need our Jeans and MCds

>maybe its all mind out
You'll need thousands of years and trillions of population for that. And that's assuming you completely ignore Oort cloud. Solar system alone has enough resources to churn out whole fleets of space ships each year.

>navi will drive humanity to extinction

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I think the move will force it. I mean they wont hunt them down all the way to earth but there will be a moment when humanities fate is in their hands and small kid or an understanding woman will change the outcome.

>rare metal is hard and opens a lot of moral question when it comes to obtaining it
>it's called "unobtainium"
BRAVO CAMERON

>What do you mean?
With tech the Earth has they don't need FTL to survive or expand. Yeah, that may suck for some time but avatar technology alone puts an end to any possible problems with sub-light expansion. Earth technology is at the point where there is no choke points left - the only question is desire to act.

Antimatter? Farm Jupiter or Mercury
Resources? Asteroid belt and moons of Saturn and Jupiter, Oort cloud as the worst case.
Energy? Fusion.

Unobtanium may have been a play by the corporation to make quick money but Earth doesn't need it per se.

>there will be a moment when humanities fate is in their hands

Why?

Because Mary Sue perfect race.

>Did you not watch the movie? They did that and it did not work. MC played it off like earth had nothing to offer and they dont need our Jeans and MCds
Then there is only one way it all ends.

Those who do not harness powers capable of wiping out civilisations and burn the surface of planets will never go anywhere.

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because that is the type of writing they seem to be going for.

But Unobtanium isn't that vital. It's used for electromagnetic trains. Literally humanity could never return to Pandora and be fine

cringe

It's truth. Even the most shitty of our current rockets are basically very big bombs. Tin cans filled with explosives. And the only reason we don't use nukes is cause there is a treaty that prevents that. Next step is fusion with magnetic bottles and fusion reactors on board the ships. Even though they will have pretty low accelerations the plume still would be good enough to fry whole ISS in a couple of seconds. Going to stars requires antimatter for sub-light or exotic matter with negative energy for FTL which by theoretical calculations also needs very high power generation to get even for pretty small ships. Or we can talk about laser sails which need lasers capable of shooting over the whole star system.

Any star ship is a weapon capable of wrecking at least cities and probably much more, especially for sub-light variants. And that's before it even gets any weapons installed.

but na'vi are not for hurting

because they can't colonize mars, the moon or whatever else in sol

There are actual fans of Avatar? I thought everyone thought it was a lame popcorn flick to push the 3d glasses gimmick

That is complete bullshit. Unless your arrows are made of solid lead and like ten times heavier than the regular lead arrow it is not going to gain that much going with gravity than against. Even if it wasn't, Pandora was a light gravity planet so the benefit still would not be as great.

>What's your expectations?
Stupid bullshit

What I hope for is something closer to pic related

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Still seething over a lack of HFY in the first one, I see.

that would be awful

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It'd be funny

>unobtainium
I always forget how stupid that name is.

that's the thing, it's obviously just cowboys & indians in space, but the indians always lose IRL, which cameron just can't get over.

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>unobtainium
>it's called that because it's unobtainable
Bravo Cameron.

That's literally the entire reason why anti-Avatarfsgs hate the film a much as they do. They'll sperg about "MUH COWBOYS AND INDIANS ABLOBLOO", but what they really want is mass genocide and rape. And since they never got it, the entire movie is bad beyond all other forms of media and has no fans.

I'm like, 99% certain most of the HFYfags gathered against the movie are rejects from /tg/ and Reddit.

Actually no, the original reason was because the movie was literally Pocahontas with aliens. The HFY happened later when people started dressing up as Na'vi to protest governments IRL

What if it's more about disliking assholes? In Starship Troopers, humans are the asshole race and I feel bad for the bugs. In Avatar, the space elves are the asshole race. They're prejudiced and hateful but still act holier-than-thou.

You know, if the Neitiry have better weapons, why don't the humans just use biological warfare?

Why on earth they would do that when they could just effortlessly wipe them out? Hell, the entire Avatar program was an outrageously generous outrage which failed because the guy they sent to negotiate preferred to fuck the chieftains daughter instead of telling them what he is about till the morning the deadline expired.

You think they would've moved if some bloke told them to? In case you didn't notice, the RDA doesn't have eminent domain rights over the entire moon. They have orbital transport, fuck off to some over part that doesn't have people on top of it.

My niggar!

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>You think they would've moved if some bloke told them to?

Guess what, that's why they tried diplomacy first. That's why they made the avatars, the schools and the whole effort about getting to know them, to see if a consensus could be reached. Then their chosen emissary decided to dick around so naturally they resorted to force.

>RDA doesn't have eminent domain rights over the entire moon

But they do.

>They have orbital transport, fuck off to some over part that doesn't have people on top of it.

Stop exposing Cameron's shitty plot.

If diplomacy fails, that's it. Give up on it you berks. The equivalent to this is some aliens showing up on earth and wanting to turn New York into a crater just to get their hands on some fuckin gold or something.
And then trying to pay us off with their equivalent of a AA battery.
You think we'd take that shit lying down?

Yes we would because otherwise the aliens would exterminate us without divine/writer fiat.

What even was the point you were trying to make?

Okay, so imagine that these aliens are A) not invincible, B) short as fuck, C) unable to breathe our atmosphere, and D) in really frigging low numbers.
You know what'd happen if they tried to fuck us? We'd fuck 'em right back with everything we got.

>please allow me to move goalposts around

No, we would still comply like fucking dogs, because larping tuff guy is one thing, not getting glassed from orbit is another. Literally none of the things you brought up AFTER moving the goalposts even apply when orbital death is on the table.

The RDA didn't even have orbital strike capabilities. They're still a private corporation bound by the law. Their mercs are a security force with the singular official mission to defend their operations, not to act as an imperialistic invasion force. Private corporations are explicitly not allowed access to WMDs (fuckoff big gunship notwithstanding) and in case you didn't notice, interstellar ships are really fucking expensive. Not to mention that orbital bombardment would bring extremely high risks to the fucking minerals you're after.