It promoted the idea that it was ok to play like complete garbage and the only thing that mattered was having an "attitude" and doing edgy stuff as some post-ironic joke with no power, musicianship, or sincerity. A complete regression from all the rock masterpieces that had been made in the decade preceding the "year of punk" in 1977. It was the predecessor to toxic modern day music culture where there's nothing left but making ironic meme songs to get Youtube views. And critics literally enabled all of it due to their worship of snarky ironic postmodernism.
Fuck Patti Smith, fuck the New York Dolls, fuck the Sex Pistols, fuck Henry Rollins, fuck the Ramones, fuck Malcolm McLaren, and fuck Christgau.
Horses is a better album than anything in prog, so fuck off
Joshua Taylor
nice bait thread
Jeremiah Long
Punk killed off way too many genres in the 70s that I like for me to not have a problem with it
but some of it's okay fuck it
Owen Hall
Punk as entire genre is worth about 30 minutes of music which is why the only punk music I listen to is the Ramones s/t
Parker Campbell
>Punk as entire genre is worth about 30 minutes of music which is why Apparently critics feel the same way too since there's only a handful of punk groups they like anyway (The Clash and a couple others), the rest are hated almost as much as Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.
Aiden Anderson
ELP were a post-ironic joke band anyway, they were basically an over the top deconstruction of prog and critics were too dense to realize it.
Matthew Scott
absolutely based imagine liking punk
Camden Campbell
yeah that's also why Jethro Tull had an album called Thick as Brick. it was a dig at critics that they never figured out.
Brandon Fisher
but we got post-punk out of it, and post-punk is good. so it was shit but necessary
Carter Green
Post-punk was merely the punk musicians who had some actual talent realizing that 90 second three chord rock singles were too limiting and expanding into formats where they could actually do things and then you ended up with music that was much closer to the AOR that critics claimed punk was supposed to destroy.
Cameron King
punk revolution now has permanently destroyed this board
Charles Ortiz
If punk pisses you off that much, I have a reason to like it even MORE!
Michael Roberts
How many Punk rock bands were put togheter by producers predicting the genre to be the next big thing? Sex Pistols, The Clash? The only real revolution at the time was prog. The "Man" doesn't want you listening to anything that requires effort and complexity, it wants you stupid and listening to stupid, conformist music. Rush were the real revolutionaries.
Carter Sanders
>Real revolutionaries >Objectivists
Pick one, user!
Jace Scott
There is no contradiction in my statement what so ever
Jaxson Sanchez
The clash and the pistols were formed after the ny punk scene which was far more interesting and complex than the three chord riffing of the brits
Jose Sullivan
Big deal, the Midwest in the 70s had a far more interesting alternative/punk scene than anything that ever came out of NYC or London.
Angel Miller
>no power, musicianship, or sincerity >posts a pic with television in it
Asher Nguyen
So? Your entire genre is defined by the britbongs.
Benjamin Moore
To make a long story short the eternal Anglo ruins everything
Grayson Cook
Yo punk thread? Anyone listen to Gorilla Biscuits? Their EP is fantastic.
Jose Ramirez
That must be why punk threads always turn into arguments about politics and the scene--there's no actual musical content to discuss.
Brandon Jenkins
Really? So ELP were just shit posting? Tarkus was ironic?
Matthew Johnson
Punk was about bringing back the simplicity of 50s rock & roll and 60s garage in reaction to the overserious 70s. It was a much needed breath of fresh air after the era of prog. There's room to like both complex and simple music. Songs that deal with primal emotions like love or frustration resonate the most with people if they're a punchy 2-3 minutes in length. By the same token, lengthy genres like prog and jazz lend themselves very well to philosophical and spiritual music.
Gavin Gonzalez
This but the Ramones are based
Dominic Moore
This, every time they were ridiculed for being empty wank they just got even wankier out of spite
Isaiah Reyes
Simple music can be fine but a lot Punk is just plain shit. Unironically the only good thing to come out of hardcore punk is a handful of Dead Kennedys songs and the areas where it crossed over with metal.
