Apology for poor english

apology for poor english

when were you when kurt cobin dies?

i was at home listening nevermind when phone ring

"kurt is kill"

"no"

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In my dad's balls/

I had recently retired from my job at AT&T after 40 years. At the time AT&T was trying to get into the cellphone game, and had a contentious relationship with another company in the Pacific Northwest called McCaw Cellular. I was an older guy even back then, but I had told management around the late-80's that McCaw was a very good buyout prospect for us.

Anyway, Kurt was around sometimes because our kids were into that whole grunge 'scene' (I was in the Seattle suburb of Mercer Island at the time). I told Kurt when he visited that he should put some of his music money into technology-sector stocks such as Microsoft. I'm not sure if he ever did; he seemed a bit zoned-out. He was actually more polite and reserved than most people I dealt with back then. I was saddened to see that he had eaten a shotgun (or not, depending upon which theory one chooses to believe).

To forestall the obvious questions, yes, I am VERY old. But I try to stay in touch a bit with the broader internet. Why not? As long as I'm not entirely senile, it's fun entertainment. I helped develop some of this shit, after all.

So you were at least 58 when that happened, it was 1994 in april so 36 years ago.
You're 94 at least, if you aren't lying, so I must ask:
What's your opinion on heavy metal? All the old people I know think it's satanic but it gets me pumped.

I was four and the news did not enter my 4 yo stratosphere.

I didn’t really care about nirvana until I was 14

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In my defense I'm kinda tipsy rn and failed math in my final year of hs

>it was 1994 in april so 36 years ago.
user...

I corrected myself and also im drunk pls just let me ask big boomer about his tastey is musicy

What were you doing in there?

>36 years ago

Close enough, kid. I had an advanced degree when I started working for AT&T, so I was a bit older than 18 anyway. I'm so old that I remember when the 'telegraph' part of 'American Telegraph and Telephone' was still around, so...

Metal is kind of an interesting story. It's hard to explain these things in a way that makes modern sense, but when I was a kid, music wasn't really differentiated by age. It was more by class. Fancy, rich people listened to 'classy' music like symphonies and opera, while poorer people like my own parents listened more to folk music and other kinds of popular songs. Phonograph/record players and most radios back then were expensive, so a lot more music was done live, and was never recorded.

I was already a married adult man by the time that guys like Elvis and Buddy Holly were popular, so I wasn't really seeking out a lot of 'new' music by that point. But I did like some of the faster-paced music with clanging guitars; I thought that reminded me of the rougher folk stuff that I heard with my parents in earlier years.

When the 1960's came around, so did car stereo systems, to a much greater extent than in the 1950's, and I got one as soon as I could afford it. I was listening to a lot of radio broadcasts, but it was hard to keep track of things, because it's not as though you could remember some lyrics and then look them up later online. By the time the Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin and those sorts of bands were popular, I was able to listen to them in very clear and very loud sound in my car, which was nice.

The 'satanic panic' stuff regarding metal didn't actually exist until quite a bit later, toward the end of the 1970's. I thought it was silly. It involved a lot of different cultural trends which are mostly forgotten today. You have to remember that the 'Christians' who promoted a lot of that stuff in the 1980's were 'reformed' drug addicts/hippies who had found a new crusade for themselves.

I was 19, attending college in Hanover, NH.

i was 2

holy shit based boomer

Probs swimming or just chillin' ballside.

BLESS ME WITH YOUR WISDOM OLD MAN

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Anyhow, I wasn't really attuned that deeply to popular culture in the 1980's, because I was working a lot. Between the early-70's and the microprocessor revolution and the mid-80's and the development of actual cellular phones, we were slammed. Things seemed to be evolving like some kind of Japanese nuclear monster. I remember an artificial intelligence researcher from a major university telling us that we'd be able to design all of our network topologies (the design of the communications systems themselves) by inputting some parameters and pressing a button "within 10 years." That didn't happen, but it was common at the time to believe such things.

What I recall is that popular music incorporated a lot more technology in the form of synthesizers and automated beats, basically a more complicated form of the metronome, but with different audio characteristics. This is what led to an 'artificial' sound in a lot of popular music, because every tone was already pre-programmed, and you just had to strike a key or press a button to place it into an arrangement. I think that something like grunge and the rock music of the Pacific Northwest in the 1980's was a reaction to that; local kids didn't have computer equipment to make music, and they didn't have the money to purchase the equipment used by other rock bands in places like Los Angeles.

So they used cheaper guitars and cheaper amplifiers and older drums to play the music which became grunge and so on.

Well I'm not sure how useful this will be for you any time soon, but if you want to stay mobile and reasonably fit when you get older, focus on your legs. Do leg workouts. If you can walk without too much trouble, you are in better shape than a lot of older people. Something as simple as squatting down and jumping back up a few times is a good way to keep your muscles alive and capable.

If you mean more general advice for life, it's unfortunately difficult to say. I've been around long enough to have made certain assumptions about things like the economy, and then seen them proven wrong. One thing to consider is that reading stuff from actual printed pages probably helps you remember things.

I'm not sure why that is, but I can very clearly remember a lot of things I have read from books even many decades ago, while countless acres of text from web pages is simply forgotten in my mind, having been cached to some kind of temporary storage, as it were. Perhaps your experience is different; I suspect there might be something involving the nervous system when you have to hold the object which you are also reading.

>apology for poor english

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So what brings you to Yas Forums then sir?

you can't seriously be this new

If youre not some bored 19 year old guy making up a story
Thanks for postin, interesting read. Shame we dont see more older people talking about how the world evolved, I feel like in the past a lot of that was passed by parents to kids as stories but families are just falling apart left and right, people are getting worse and worse at raising kids, lot of that stuffs just gonna be lost to time

Hate to bug you more but, got any thoughts on VR? Ever try it? I would imagine going from tech thats huge analog and clunky and barely does its job when young to a robust, recently standalone wireless, motion controlled, cheap virtual reality gaming system as an older guy must really be something

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I've been here off-and-on since 2004 or so, probably from a link from some other site's message boards I used to follow, like Salon or Lonely Planet. At my age, 15 years doesn't feel like that great a span of time, so it seems oddly recent.

But another small anecdote about Kurt - he complained that Seattle was kind of crowded and noisy compared to the town he came from, which was a place called Aberdeen, near the coast. He had troubles there with local rednecks, which is a well-known story, but I do wonder if he missed something about the place which he wasn't able to find elsewhere. It's kind of a sad tale.

I thought you were posting copypasta but if you're real then it's pretty sick that an 84 year old guy can browse Yas Forums, like if a 30 year old posts here then they're cringe, but an 84 year old guy posting here? That's based

I am 24 and wasn't alive when kurt died in 94.

You came back from the dead? Based zombie poster.

Those early computer age guys are surprisingly the most based out there
I've had the luck to work with a couple and they're real fun people. Super smart, not caught up on everything naturally but, least the ones I talked to, you got the sense their curiosity never left them. Something to strive to be really. Hard working, always learning, always open minded but firmly grounded in reality.

Virtual reality was a very big obsession around the time I was winding down my career (not with AT&T specifically, but in the general technology industry). There was a very big push to incorporate 'immersive' visual technology into video game systems. There were different theories about how this could be done with the computing power of the era, a lot of which had to do with using the machine's control of the visual field to create illusions, which would compensate for a low-polygon/low-resolution limit within the actual visual display.

It wasn't my field back then, but I do recall that those early systems were very clunky and had a lot of problems with user interfaces. If you look back at 90's media, there were a lot of ideas about full-body suits or other fully-integrative systems which would be able to create illusions of a completely different reality.

It's a bit of a disappointment that this hasn't been achieved, but I have sympathy for the designers, because these things don't always seem so difficult in a theoretical sense. But when you actually start manufacturing physical devices and programming actual device-level code, it's always a lot more difficult than anticipated. A lot of this technology is interesting, but it probably won't be "mature" for a while longer.

Excellent reads Man. Write a book or something.

Yeah same some people never lose that spark

Yeah I've looked into some of the 90's VR attempts. I definitely got the feeling it was on the cusp of going consumer but one fumble after the other and companies gave up on the prospect.
Til Oculus of course. Get the feeling it's at it's like, early Apple stage or something y'know. Consumer, has the basic ideas that lay the groundwork, steady stream of new advancements and competition but it's still definitely not *there* yet. Yet to have it's iphone moment there we, I guess shift to a whole new era basically.
I do wonder a lot if companies had been braver to push it late 90s, if we'd already had these lens, tracking, etc. advancements out of the way. Guess we'll see where Facebooks millions and millions of bucks take us.

holy mother of based

Not just early computer guys, there's a whole lot of older guys like this. I worked with a guy in his 60s or 70s who worked on a weed farm through his 20s and later became a scuba instructor. Probably the most based and wisest guy I've ever met. Always had a meaningful anecdote for something or rather. It's so rare to meet genuinely interesting people like this.

This is why you shouldn't skip math classes

How old are you exactly?
i think i might be retarded but i understand you may have started working at AT&T around 1954 when you were around 18 so you were probably born around 1936 or so.
i have a couple of questions,
why is a silent generation boomer like you doing on a manchild forum like this.and where where you during world war II.

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