Beatles haters, I have a challenge for you

Beatles haters, I have a challenge for you.
Name a band that is not only better than The Beatles but also more influential. They were objectively the most influential, innovative, and successful pop band of the 20th century. No one can beat them.

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The Velvet Underground

The Beach Boys influenced the Beatles.

The Who (better bass, better guitar, better drums, vocal style that inspired Led Zeppelin, ...)

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Beatles came first and surpassed them
Not nearly as influential. They were a cult indie band at best. Lou Reed is more well known for Walk on the Wildside with the general public. Beatles had more hits and influenced far more bands across all pop/rock genres. TVU influenced only alternative rock.
The Who weren't as successful or varied in their sound as The Beatles, but they were more impactful than Velvet Underground

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>Name a band that is not only better than The Beatles but also more influential.

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>No one can beat them.
>beat
>Lennon pic

isnt john enon the guy who did imagine
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Those fucking scousers have ruined music

Led Zeppelin

Devo

The Beatles are the most influential band of all time, and it isn't even close.

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Limp Bizkit

Black Sabbath

do solo artists count or does it have to specifically be a band

and new wave, noise rock, psychedelic rock, proto-punk, art rock, pop rock, experimental rock, and garage rock just from TVU&N

sure, they weren't nearly as successful initally, but not only were they infinitely more influential in crafting the independent and underground music scenes, but their music went far beyond their contemporaries, and they made music that had an artistic background that didn't solely come from production and mastering techniques.

also, velvet underground is more than just lou reed and most of the members have went on to define different aspects and subgenres in the alternative music scene.

i don't hate the beatles mostly because i don't have a very strong opinion of their music but i think stating they are the highest watermark for all of music is disrespectful to the bands and artists who worked even harder to achieve a fraction of their success

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>innovative
sorry but beatles took from different sources .

The Beach Boys influenced The Beatles (admitted by themselves), which means that The Beach Boys are more influential by transfer

TVUs influence on rock was far more visible from the 70s onward than the Beatles.

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Then the first guy who did music is actually the most influential of all time

The Beatles were game changers, I'll give you that.

I don't think the Beatles were that musically influential. Culturally influential, for sure. Influential to the way albums were presented and recorded, sure. But I feel like a band like the Velvet Underground had far more influence on the sound of the music in the coming decades.

>Has never heard of Electric Light Orchestra, Badfinger, or Klaatu

The Beach Boys, the Melvins, the Velvet Underground and King Crimson.
King Crimson and Melvins were more stealthy in that regard but Melvins were proto-grunge (which became the musical zeitgeist of the 90's and 00's) and King Crimson were both predecessors to progressive rock and progressive metal, plus they ended up being very influential to math rock, post-hardcore, alternative rock, later psychedelic rock, funk metal, experimental rock, indie rock and even some post-punk and new wave.
Still, a band can be very influential and still not be good. Being popular does not have to do with its quality, and vice versa. For example, Hall & Oates were really popular but they also were good songwriters. The Beatles were also great songwriters and were popular. Elvis had 50 million fans but they were mostly wrong. Hans Krusi is completely unknown outside of Yas Forums (and even then nobody has probably heard EX HK) and EX HK is a terrible album. Egg were also not well-known outside of prog circles but were great.

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>cultural influence = musical influence

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Kraftwerk probably come close
Elvis isn't a band, but you can bet he's just as influential as the Beatles, if not more.

beatles fans dont know music