Why were 90s rockstars so utterly self-destructive and disinterested in whether they lived or died? Why was the scene of the time so rife with darkness and decay?
Wat was the greatest artistic manifestation of this decay? In Utero? Dirt? The Holy Bible? Niandra LaDes? Smile From The Streets You Hold? World Coming Down? The Downward Spiral?
They weren’t as destructive as some of the 70s punk cunts Only two of them 90s artists OD’d, both over the age of 30
Isaac Hughes
Not TDS, but The Fragile is the NIN album which is truly reflective of Trent's self-destruction.
TDS was purely a concept album. More based around a gothic fascination with that kind of utter decline. After TDS, NIN blew up, he toured with David Bowie, and he started to go down the rabbit hole of drug and alcohol addiction that just fucked him up.
The Fragile might be that album that best represents that decay. It's such an utterly hopeless album, as Trent describes it, it's about "starting at the bottom and trying to fight your way back, but just ending up right back at the bottom". It's total futility.
Also, the Perfect Drug era certainly had to be Trent at some kind of perverse rock bottom. Total self-indulgent, drug-fuelled madness. youtube.com/watch?v=dn3j6-yQKWQ
fucking schizo has been posting this since 2018 jesus christ
Colton Lewis
So it wasn't just me that realized this shit was being posted every day. I thought it was just deja vu or something.
Jonathan King
A better question is how this depressing kind of stuff became popular at a mainstream level.
Michael Howard
Making the same threads over and over again is a Yas Forums tradition. I bet you get pissed about the "IS GARAGE ROCK DEAD" threads too, you fucking newfag nimrod.
Kevin Kelly
nirvana and pearl jam weren't depressing at all
Gabriel Scott
Chris Ott summed it up pretty well. Alternative rock didn't happen just because the alternative kids were bored, depressed and alienated, it happened because even the mainstream kids were bored, depressed and alienated.
>be hyper-privileged white kid >buy the bullshit that life is supposed to mean something >be just smart enough to recognize that the mass consumer market isnt selling you that meaning >get really fucking torn up about the fact that you're smart enough to see the negative aspects of society but not smart enough to see how to navigate them or smart enough to find the positive benefits >you know life is supposed to mean something (because someone told you) but you arent sure what (because no one is selling you that idea) >blame society, the mass media, consumerism, etc. for this because you were given options but not hand-held on how to live >become nihilistic, talk about how love and happiness are all illusions >trace that shit until inevitable suicide induced by midwit self-imposed autism And everyone else was addicted to drugs because they hung out with people like this.
Caleb Johnson
90's rock culture was so fucking cringe. Everyone on that list was cringe except for Frusciante and Staley only because they were actually talented. What a terrible decade for music.
Elijah Allen
this is such a reductio ad absurdum and you do a shame and a disservice to the artists that you're vilifying with such dogmatic bullshit. some of them are my favorite people who got me through a lot, and to reduce their struggles to "privilege" and "nihilism" is insulting to me
Christopher Garcia
She was undeniably a cunt at times but she isn’t the sociopath the media tried to make her out to be, she also helped Hole’s drummer.
Sebastian Nelson
>hyper-privileged they had fucked up families and started doing heavy drugs in their teens, how the fuck were they "hyper privileged"?
Most of those people were far from privileged growing up. By and large, they came from working-class/lower-middle class backgrounds.
Justin Johnson
>working class kid from a mining family in the middle of nowhere Wales >hyper-privileged yea ok sure
Asher Young
get over it fag
Carter Mitchell
>staley >parents divorced when he was 7 >hyper-privileged
Carson Davis
I need that book
Nathan Davis
why dont you write a poem about it fag
Asher Phillips
Some rap kid who is salty that people call out modern trap rappers for promoting self destruction and try to deflect that criticism by focusing on 90s rockstars. Problem is that these 90s rockstars never glamourised drug addiction, unlike their 70s and 80s counterparts these 90s rock albums where essentially about how awful drug addiction truly where.
>The literature she had left for me at the pawn shop was about an organization called M.A.P., the Musicians’ Assistance Program, which was set up by this jazz-saxophone player named Buddy Arnold to help people who didn’t have money and had worked in music to get clean. They paid for my rehab.
I'm pretty sure this organization paid for Frusciante's rehab as well. Pretty based.
Luis Baker
The weirder / nicer story is in the book The Game about pick up artists in LA. Courtney lived with them for awhile. She actually comes across as nice and unjudgemental about guys trying to teach other guys how to get laid.