Seriously, for the past 20 years people have been promoting a bunch of soft boy shit that is supposed to be "rock music" but is actually soft and weak as fuck. I blame it on The Strokes, they popularized "indie rock" in the 00s and started shifting the zeitgeist away from heavy guitars and distortion and towards these subtle post-punk inspired riffs. Then in the 2010s, everything went to god damned shit. "Indie pop" became a thing and you have faggots like Mac DeMarco and Tame Impala who are meant to be the "face of rock" in the 10s but don't make anything that even resembles rock music, they just happen to use guitars and have an "indie aesthetic" so people think it's rock.
What happened? Will rock ever move away from this softboy shit and start going back to heavy, aggressive sounds like it was in the 90s?
You do know there’s still heavy music being made right? It’s just not the face of rock, which it never was. The only time heavy rock was mainstream was Metallica
Ian Russell
Maybe when people get tired of rap.
Cooper Baker
>Will rock ever move away from this softboy shit and start going back to heavy, aggressive sounds like it was in the 90s? Hopefully not so it finally fucking dies and we can stop talking about this shitty genre.
Chase Phillips
I agree with this. So many lame bands with no distortion. It's part of why rock is dead, its like people forgot that drop D is a thing.
Joshua Edwards
Have you heard of the Voidz?
Wyatt Sanders
What can you do about it honestly. Not many men into rock are masculine enough to be in a rock band anymore. The real men left to rap, metal, and country.
Zachary Anderson
That's objectively wrong though. The big rock bands of the 90s were all heavy. Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam. Later on you had nu metal which was in its day (late 90s-2001ish) the most popular subgenre of rock/metal. All of these bands made some soft and poppy songs, but they also made heavy and noisy songs which ended up being some of their biggest hits.
So what changed? Why did the tastes change sometime in the early 00s towards most people wanting their rock music to be soft as shit "indie" crap?
Jonathan Sanders
>Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam That's pop rock. Not very heavy. >nu metal Not heavy.
Zachary Walker
based
Nicholas Reyes
because after cobain died eminem became the biggest star and no one in rock could be nearly as edgy as he was and i think no one since was as edgy as Em was in early 2000s. so rock went soft on purpose, you got metal if you want edginess
Jordan Sanders
People stopped buying albums so the major labels starting peddling the soft indie shit because its easy to sell to tv commercials so they could make lots of money that way. Much easier to sell to commericals a poppy little diddy than some heavy rock song.
Jordan Richardson
Man look at this goal post moving retard. Its not heavy unless its Grindcore righ??
Hudson Martinez
Maybe the problem is that metal and rock have diverged too much. Metalheads went one way rockers went another way. It sucks for me cause I like bands that are kinda in between.
Austin Myers
That's my point, dumbass. None of those bands are that heavy, but compared to the soft weak shit that passes as "rock" in the 00s and 10s, they're all heavy as shit. You'd never see bands like the Strokes, Arcade Fire, Vampire Weekend, Mac DeMarco or Tame Impala ever DARE to make a song even as noisy and aggressive as anything off of In Utero. The rock bands all turned into these pussy retards who think it's "unsophisticated" to have a loud, noisy rock song on your album.
Is it because all the "rock bands" these days are fronted by middle class faggots? You have Ivy League educated bands like Vampire Weekend who seem to have an aversion to any kind of aggression in their music. And the most influential band of the 90s that any of these "nu rock" bands point to is always fucking Radiohead, the gayest and softest band of alt rock that was made up of rich privately educated kids from England.
Maybe what we need is for working class kids to start forming rock bands again.
Charles King
I think unfortunately that culture has just shifted. Work in class white boys juice area into rock in the same way any more. Maybe they like a few songs but rarely into enough to learn guitar let alone start a band.
Jayden Turner
They never stopped forming rock bands. You have to look for it and stop worrying about whats popular and on the radio. If you really were a rock fan you would have been seeking that stuff out. All that Arcade Fire Vampire Weekend, Tame Impala hipster shit is just desperate major labels looking to sell that music to tv commercials because its poppy and easy money for them.
Carter Sanchez
People can whine about how rock back than wasn't really that heavy but people forget that the first Slipknot album sold double platinum. Say what you want about the musical quality of that album but it's heavy as fuck, especially when it comes to mainstream music.
>The real men left to rap lmao no, today's rappers get their fashion from hot topic shopping white girls circa 2008 but think they're tough because they have a lot of money (from whoring themselves out) for guns and bodyguards and shit
Kayden White
I'm not massively bothered because I love hip hop music too, and you're right that a lot of working class aggression is being channeled into rap music now. A lot of rappers in the past few years are getting very dark and noisy with their production and their rapping styles, which I think parallels the 90s alt rock era and grunge in many ways.
But I love rock music too and it fucking pisses me off that all this pussy boy shit now dominates that genre. There's evidently a market for rock music now, but it feels like there's just been a cultural change within the genre where people started frowning upon heavy bands. Like suggested, rock and metal diverged too much and people started to think that you could only be one or the other, either heavy or soft. In the 90s rock and metal were pretty much continuous and the big rock bands of the day would always have a few songs that could pretty much count as heavy metal, and they would do them alongside softer songs.
Yes I look out for new bands in those styles but it's not the same is it? You have to go digging around through share threads and go down youtube rabbit holes to find the music you want. And there isn't that much of it being made, because we've had 20 years of "indie rock" and "indie pop" being the zeitgeist so whole generations of kids have grown up seeing those pussy bands as their inspirations and mostly forming new even softer bands influenced by them.
Alexander Watson
Slipknot is a rare heavy band that became hugely popular. It doesnt happen that often. Maybe Pantera was another one when their album went #1 on Billboard.
Chase Campbell
Umm I like this band here. I became away of them like 5 years ago when they had an ep out. They are about to drop and album soon. I dont know what label they are on, I cant find that info. youtube.com/watch?v=FOLiAx5KeAA
Josiah Watson
>for the past 20 years people have been promoting a bunch of soft boy shit that is supposed to be "rock music" but is actually soft and weak as fuck It's to appeal to women.
Owen Lopez
>Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam None of these bands are heavy lol
Henry Smith
rich people dont like harsh music and very very wealthy people (like will toledo, frankie cosmos, clairo) make rock records now
No one tell this guy how popular soft rock was as a genre in the 1970s
Aiden Roberts
rock has been irrelevant this last decade. the last time someone in the mainstream did something heavy was with distorted 808s trap like xxxtentacion I guess
James Hughes
Literally look up "noise rock albums 2020" or something similar and you'll find plenty of heavy shit. If you care about the popularity of heavy rock then I suggest you focus more on yourself than other people.
Camden Bell
>Why is rock music not heavy anymore? because you grew out of it. you've heard it all. you must take the next step and enter the metal sphere. the scale goes from soft to wtfisthatevenmusic.winamp you will find all kinds of heavy here. also tech death/deathcore had a huge revival. so knock yourself out
