Kendrick Lamar

We can all agree that he's the best artist of our generation, right? Discuss

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certainly the best rapper of the 2010's

best artist of our gen? big doubt

imagine being this guy

personal feelings makes the music bad?

Eh... idk man. His last two were pretty bad, I've never heard his other shit. I'd say no. When's he gonna shit out his next turd btw?

I was into his music before but the more I explore hip hop and other genre of music him and J Cole is kinda booty, I prefer to listen to Wu tang than him

Yeah, easily. He’s one of the view good artists who have experienced huge commercial success. GKMC and TPAB are going to live on forever as classics. Nobody is anywhere near as consistent as Kendrick. All hail the king baby.

you sound like somebody who has forgotten about julian casablancas

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Without a doubt the greatest lyricist of this generation

few are the people that can hold contradictory value system, even on independent fields.
Ex: I don't like this politician, hence i hate everything (s)he will ever do, including what i agree with,

ppl r dumbasses..

kanye has released more great albums in the 2010s than kendrick has

Not even close.
Kendrick has one great project.
Talk to me when he has TEN great projects

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He fucking sucks

I actually gave Kendrick a shot after they gave him a Pulitzer prize for DAMN, but it was a total letdown

Critics write about hip-hop as if it's this high-minded, literary, socially conscious stuff. I wish they were correct, but ultimately I think they're just seeing what they want to see.

Nothing really set DAMN apart from other hip-hop/rap albums; it just benefited from the increasing inclination of white and Jewish journalists to treat hip-hop as a serious art form to prove their lack of racism.

The lyrics retread all the time-worn hip-hop cliches. There are heaps of curse words ("fuck," "nigga," "pussy-ass," "bitch," etc.). Thematically the album revolves around violence, fucking, fame, and how the police have it in for black people. It could hardly be more conservative in its lyrics.

That's literally his worst album though. It's legit dogshit.

What do you recommend then? I've listened to multiple acclaimed hip-hop albums and they never seem deserving of their acclaim to me.

I agree with you except perhaps the last line. I really feel (but i may be biased) that kendrick has something profoundly melancholy in his lyrics.
Wouldn't be surprised if he killed himself at some point. Some of his work is borderline depressive without blaming anybody.

they have 2 each

he fell off hard after GKMC, still have a small hope that he has one more worthwhile album in him

why do you care about cursing in music?

I don't mind a few curse words if they're used purposefully, but with hip-hop it's often every other word. When that is the case, it sounds dim-witted, slummy, and try-hard to me. It's like listening to a wanna-be tough guy with limited vocabulary try to sound hard. The overall effect is ugly and garish.

Kendrick has GKMC and TPAB
Kanye has MBDTF, Yeezus, TLOP and KSG

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>Modern minstrel show is the best artist of the generation
Lol no

Saying nigga is one of the very distinct characteristics rap uses to stereotype African Americans and hurt their public preception

TLOP and and KSG are good at best, not great

weird opinion. Why do you think black people are trying to stereotype themselves in rap? Plenty say it irl, not like they're pretending. Nothing wrong with black people saying it.

To Pimp a Butterfly has a heavy jazz influence, GKMC is more traditional Hip Hop with modern production. Both of them are his best work so try either of them.

I think its generally because normalfags have horrendous taste. To pimp a butterfly is your best bet for Kendrick, but if you really dont like hip-hop, I'm not sure it's your best starting point for the genre. It should at least wash the bad taste out of your mouth that DAMN. was

His music ages like milk.

you talk about people seeing what they want to see in hiphop, but based on what you're writing here I think you are seeing what you want to see as well.

You're telling me I'm just imagining that most hip-hop revolves around violence, fucking, fame, and how the police have it in for black people? I honestly think that's a pretty fair, objective assessment based on the hip hop albums I've listened to.

I wish it wasn't the case, I often like the beats and grooves in hip-hop music, but the limited range and ugliness of the lyrics is usually a turn-off for me.

>He said "fuck" and other bad words, so it's not real music
Imagine actually thinking like this.

In my mind Kendrick didn't get a Pullitzer for DAMN, he got a Pullitzer for the reputation he built up before DAMN.
If the Pullitzer were going to give a specific album of his a pullitzer they should've given it to To Pimp A Butterfly or Good Kid Maad City, but academia and awards only take notice to hip-hop artists (And the genre in general) after they've already gone big and mainstream in combination with being considered artsy and deep.

DAMN is easily the most shallow, commercial album Kendrick put out. Though given your specific grievances with DAMN (Seriously, you take issue with him cursing? You won't like rap at all as a genre, it's supposed to be vulgar and hardened even at its most artful) I don't think you'll like any of his work.

The usage of the word is perpetuated further in the community by rap, which started with white and jewish record executives trying to create an unsavory image of African Americans and sell it to them to lessen their perception with the public while profiting off it
It has also led to "nigga" and "nigger" being used as an racist insult far more then it ever would have been used if it was allowed to die out

>Critics write about hip-hop as if it's this high-minded, literary, socially conscious stuff. I wish they were correct, but ultimately I think they're just seeing what they want to see.
To follow up on my last post I do recommend you give A Tribe Called Quest a listen, that's one group I think you'll like in hip-hop.
I personally think their final album, We Got It From Here Thank You 4 Your Service, is their best work, but some point to Low End Theory or Midnight Marauders as being their best. Regardless, their entire catalog is worth listening to, so just pick and album and dive.

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The word was never going to die out. The only difference between a world where rappers stopped saying it and this one is there's also black people saying the word in a non hateful manner.

His voice is annoying as shit and I don't like when he pretends to be tough and charismatic

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You're strawmanning

It's not that I think cursing never has a place in art, it's the way that in hip-hop it's used excessively and thoughtlessly, without purpose. I dislike vulgarity for vulgarity's sake.