Seethe and shill all you want, you’ll never find anything as good at this

Seethe and shill all you want, you’ll never find anything as good at this

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everyone knows they exist
mostly everyone prefers another band.
relevancy is the only argument beatards have to like them.

John gave his back, you know.

Definitely the best pop act to ever exist. They weren't the most cutting edge for their time and I can understand the argument that they're overrated but in terms of impact on culture and overall talent I don't think there's anyone even close.

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>seethe

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I genuinely want to hear your "arguments" as to which artists is better.

don't have any objectively good qualities.
mediocre band. and I know where this is gonna go, just like any other beatard thread: You're gonna claim they were innovative and important to music, and everyone's going to prove to you that they were nothing but pop music.

what bands are better?

my bands better

>don't have any objectively good qualities
You know that quality is not a real feature of the external world right?

Answer the questions then retard which bands where better? This happens every thread you guys say shit but never back it up.

imagine seethign about a band from 50 years ago. god bless em. what exactly do you get outta posting this friend?

I get to see all the haters seething

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SEETHE
you faggots
The Beatles are the GOATS

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>This happens every thread you guys say shit but never back it up.
But we do?
you're bias has rendered you delusional.

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still haven’t answered the question

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Lmao if you genuinely believe that's better than the Beatles.

your*
noticed that as soon as i clicked post

>revolver and sgt peppers on there
hahahahaha

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ok ok ok you win user. they are the best of all time the GOAT. the Brady. the Ali. the Ruth. the Torres.

Now WHAT?

>Jimi Hendrix
>Bob Dylan
>Frank Zappa
>13th Floor Elevators
>The Doors
>Syd Barret
>Red Krayola
Yes. they are better

>what now?
time to get on the yellow submarine faggot

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Bob Dylan, The Velvet Underground, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, The Doors, Love, Red Krayola And Zappa are the only artists on that chart that made anything close to The Beatles (Beatles are still better than all them btw)
If you think any other of those literally who bands compare to The Beatles you need to get your head checked.

it's a chronological order of psychedelic music to show you that Revolver wasn't special.

Still waiting for an answer. I've listened to so many bands and I actually used to hate the Beatles. I use to regurgitate "muh Beatles overrated they are a boy band" arguments all the time. That's of course until one day I actually listened to them. It would actually benefit me if you can find an artist or band better than the Beatles because it gives me more music to listen to. So you're welcome to prove to me which artist or band we're better and why.

>the doors
>13th floor elevators
>syd Barret
all have 1 good album

The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.

"The Doors" c'mon nigga

>Literal who
being ignorant of music isn't something to be proud of on a music board
>of course they're not better because I haven't heard of them
arrogance. not surprising

In a sense, the Beatles are emblematic of the status of rock criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it grunge or U2) and too little to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no major label picks him up and sells him around the world, a lot of rock critics will ignore him. If a major label picks up a musician who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of rock criticism: rock critics are basically publicists working for major labels, distributors and record stores. They simply highlight what product the music business wants to make money from.

Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great musician like Tim Buckley, who never sold much, and commercial products like the Beatles. At such a time, rock critics will study their rock history and understand which artists accomplished which musical feat, and which simply exploited it commercially.

Beatles' "Aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll. It replaced syncopated African rhythm with linear Western melody, and lusty negro attitudes with cute white-kid smiles.

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Reminder: The Beatles, in their entire illustrious history, never wrote a song as heartfelt as Girlfriend in a Coma.

Contemporary musicians never spoke highly of the Beatles, and for good reason. They could never figure out why the Beatles' songs should be regarded more highly than their own. They knew that the Beatles were simply lucky to become a folk phenomenon (thanks to "Beatlemania", which had nothing to do with their musical merits). That phenomenon kept alive interest in their (mediocre) musical endeavours to this day. Nothing else grants the Beatles more attention than, say, the Kinks or the Rolling Stones. There was nothing intrinsically better in the Beatles' music. Ray Davies of the Kinks was certainly a far better songwriter than Lennon & McCartney. The Stones were certainly much more skilled musicians than the 'Fab Four'. And Pete Townshend was a far more accomplished composer, capable of entire operas such as "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia"; not to mention the far greater British musicians who followed them in subsequent decades or the US musicians themselves who initially spearheaded what the Beatles merely later repackaged to the masses.

The Beatles sold a lot of records not because they were the greatest musicians but simply because their music was easy to sell to the masses: it had no difficult content, it had no technical innovations, it had no creative depth. They wrote a bunch of catchy 3-minute ditties and they were photogenic. If somebody had not invented "Beatlemania" in 1963, you would not have wasted five minutes of your time reading these pages about such a trivial band.

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>the smiths
nah this ain’t happening

>13th Floor Elevators
>The Doors
>better than the Beatles
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

>no musical content
Is that why they’re still talked about constantly, inspired nearly every band since and albums hold up better than anything from that time period?
Keep going

Extended note from 2010. The Beatles were not a terribly interesting band, but their fans were and still are an interesting phenomenon. I can only name religious fundamentalists as annoying (and as threatening) as Beatles fans, and as persevering in sabotaging anyone who dares express an alternate opinion of their faith. They have turned me into some kind of Internet celebrity not because of the 6,000 bios that i have written, not because of the 800-page book that i published, not because of the 30 years of cultural events that i organized, but simply because i downplayed the artistic merits of the Beatles, an action that they consider as disgraceful as the 2001 terrorist attacks.

Jakub Krawczynski sent me this supportive comment in 2010:
I find it quite amusing that almost all of the Beatles songs have their own entries on Wikipedia (nothing wrong with that in itself, actually), even if they are not singles, and each of them is meticulously dissected as if there were transcendental suites exceeding human comprehension, yet bands like Faust or Red Krayola, etc. have biographies even shorter than just one article about any random Beatles song. Needless to say, none of their songs have any articles on them, yet I'm sure there would be a lot more to talk about. Moreover, if you had put any bad review of their album on the site with the intention to show the broader scope of opinions, you'd risk your "life" there, since such fanatics don't accept any single sign of trying to be objective. You are seen as public enemy number 1 to them. It is like your article is one giant cognitive dissonance to them and vandalizing your bio was the only way to reduce this dissonance.

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>anecdotal
logical fallacy, disregarded
>So you're welcome to prove to me which artist or band we're better and why.
bands with more consistent discographies? pick any.

But user, I've found something better

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>pick any
Well you picked the 13th floor elevators and the fucking doors
Both extremely inconsistent

I know all the bands on the chart but do you really think some drug fried brain hippy bands that made one album are really better than The Beatles?