Would you say his influence has been a negative or positive for music?

Would you say his influence has been a negative or positive for music?

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Mixed feelings for me. On one hand, he makes incredibly catchy music that I hate myself for liking. On the other, he inspired a genre that's unquestionably the most disingenuous form of music ever.

Now, you might think of various industry puppets like Brittney Spears and Justin Bieber as the pinnacle of dishonesty in music, but at least they're not hiding behind a nebulous artistic concept that's glazed in irony.

good thoughts

completely negative influence, our culture is oversaturated with disingenuous "ironic" shit, it's all toxic

Positive because it sounds good

Modern day John Cale

reading this much into noises that we hear with our ears LOL .... CRINGE!!!!!!!!

damn I like that comparison desu

>that I hate myself for liking

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yeah this adds a lot to the discussion thanks

Positive, he took pop's decaying corpse and reanimated it.

there is no such discussion in the first place you pathetic loser

It was fun when it was new but it's incredible how boring that sound is by now. It's like people are still catching up to something that's basically a decade old.

I also think that him and his ilk are responsible for the new wave of artists 'ironically' regurgitating 00s pop tropes without realising what made them fun to begin with. There's nothing more soulless than making a record that's nothing more than 'remember this bad music from ten years ago?' and packaging it up as a boundary-pushing sound.

his personal sound has evolved a lot over the past decade.

>a record that's nothing more than 'remember this bad music from ten years ago?'
name one record like this.

I'm talking more about the sound he created, I honestly haven't been keeping up with what he's been doing personally, probably as a result of being over the whole thing.

1000 gecs
I Disagree

100 gecs

>1000 gecs
if all you get out of this album is "remember this bad music from ten years ago?" then you are missing the point.
I Disagree was mid, barely could be categorized as 'PC Music' or future pop or whatever the 'genre is.

PC Music's music isn't disingenuous or ironic.

Many of the fans are obnoxious—I'll grant that—so to that extent you could say it's had a negative influence, but that's apart from the music.

>if all you get out of this album is "remember this bad music from ten years ago?" then you are missing the point.
What is 'the point' then? People like to convince themselves they're listening to something avant-garde when it's just soulless rehashing of tropes which were done better when they were sincere and not completely cynical 'art' albums. You know that film 'Mandy' with Nicolas Cage? It's like that, if you know what I mean.

I have to agree with this

1000 Gecs should only be classified as Short Buscore.

the point was to blend all the styles together. It's dadaist.

>PC Music's music isn't disingenuous or ironic
Oh ok. Don't worry about arguing your case.

>It's dadaist
Hardly cutting edge 100 years on, is it? Only more proof that this is trite music.

your position is reductionist. that's all I'll say on the matter.

nice name calling really appreciated very constructive

Positive of course

The progenitors are reasonably well educated art school grads who make the most saccharine pop music imaginable, and it's undoubtedly carried out with an awareness of how vapid the music they're appropriating truly is. On top of that, they have these AI-like personas that they seem to be committed to, suggesting it's part performance art.

If that's not insincere, I don't know what is.

>t. listened to Hey QT once

ok so fuck the fans