What was Lennon's major inspiration and influence during the Beatles?
I mean, Paul McCartney's is clearly The Beach Boys. On every single Mccartney track, you can perceive a beach boys influence on his songwriting.
But I can't perceive what band influenced Lennon the most. I mean, what band inspired him to make Strawberry Fields, I Am The Walrus, She Said She Said? I fail to recognize a pattern that reflects on another band. Maybe The Kinks? Byrds?
What was Lennon's major inspiration and influence during the Beatles?
Lennon was very impressed by Bob Dylan at first and while that initial influence wasn't actually all that long the introspection part never left. In fact after 1965 I think almost every song Lennon wrote was introspective in some way.
>I mean, Paul McCartney's is clearly The Beach Boys. On every single Mccartney track, you can perceive a beach boys influence on his songwriting.
no wonder i fucking hate mccartney's grandma shit so much then. the beach boys and and mccartney suck ass.
also...
>But I can't perceive what band influenced Lennon the most.
that's because lennon didn't copy any other bands and he was pretty eclectic in his tastes. i recall reading before that he was a fan of captain beefheart's safe as milk when it came out.
post yesterday, lennon was all drugs and cope
McCartney was the one who was a fan of Zappa, La Monte Young, etc. The psychedelic sounds on Tomorrow Never Knows? McCartney's idea.
Thats a good answer, indeed. Although I don't think those extremely psychedelic songwriting came from Dylan's influence on him.
Nah, McCartney and BB are great, my man. But I agree that Lennon is the GOAT.
>that's because Lennon didn't copy any other bands
He was pretty much copying Dylan on his 65 phase.
>he was a fan of safe as milk
Yes. Safe as Milk was his favorite record of all time.
He achieved GOAT status after yesterday, so maybe that was a good incident.
Lennon also was a fan of those. Plus, he helped The Silver Apples.
>psychedelic sounds of TNK? Mccartneys idea
True, but Lennon had an even more far-out idea.!
Probably TVU, Dylan and Byrds. And definitely, definitely kinks.
Paul was inspired far more by the likes of Buddy Holly and Elvis, and even church hymns he heard as a young choir boy, then The Beach Boys.
Lennon was inspired by Paul taking his haphazard ideas and turning them into music.
Beach boys were more influenced by Mccartney than the other way round
I don't think TVU influenced Lennon at all to be honest. He was already going down that path once they started getting a buzz.
Lennon was the one who wanted to go back to rock and roll type stuff. His last album before his partial retirement was a complete rock and roll covers album.
>niggers turning the thread into waifufaggotry
Go back
>Paul
>Elvis
>buddy holly
What? Retard.
Lennon's psychedelic influences were Beefheart, Byrds, Kinks and Silver Apples.
i don't think the velvets influenced the beatles in any way whatsoever. how did the byrds and kinks influence the beatles?
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Idk, John Cale was a fan of Lennon's music so I thought that the inspiration was mutual.
I'm not hearing it, like at all. And the influence I could hear would be coming from Reed. Not saying it's impossible but I doubt it.
the kinks didn't do psychedelic music though
nah, i'm pretty sure the beatles didn't give a shit about the velvets at all. i know they liked/respected zappa and beefheart though.
>John Cale was a fan of Lennon's music
Source?
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I mean, everybody was excited about what the Beatles were doing, and after a year and a half of working with drones, it’s great to have a melody to latch onto. And not just any melodies, but the Beatles really had some accessibility to them, some thinking going on, especially in John Lennon Songs.
Which ones?
“She Said She Said.” You know, as soon as Dylan sort of launched into “Subterranean [Homesick Blues],” suddenly the Beatles paid attention, and their looks changed. So, you know, we just jumped on the bandwagon and said, ‘Hey! We can write lyrics, too!’ And we’re going to write about things that are really not things you’re familiar with really.
>I mean, everybody was excited about what the Beatles were doing, and after a year and a half of working with drones, it’s great to have a melody to latch onto. And not just any melodies, but the Beatles really had some accessibility to them, some thinking going on, especially in John Lennon Songs.
>Which ones?
>“She Said She Said.”
Paul BTFO’d
Patrician taste. She Said is amazing
Beatles influenced Beach Boys first. Rubber Soul was the biggest influence for Pet Sounds. Which in turn influenced Sgt Peppers. That's probably why you think they sound alike.
You retard
>great album by great band influences shit band to make a shit album
>shit album by shit band influences great band to make a shit album
Why does Yas Forums consistently cum over She Said She Said when I'm Only Sleeping, And Your Bird Can Sing and Tomorrow Never Knows are on the same record and also Lennon songs?
Honestly Yas Forums and other sites get too fixed up on influence. Great art can be made and not influence other people. Like, if TVU&N didn't influnece 10,000 kids to make bands like Eno said would that have somehow made it not as good? Robbie Basho is a great artist who influenced a very narrow amount of people within a scene that was already narrow. Doesn't make him bad.
his psychedelic influence was doing LSD
And it was actually George Martin who made those sounds not Lennon
There all great yeah but She Said She Said just takes the cake.
Lennon really was amazing
Martin's tricky because while I get what you're saying he wouldn't have psychedelic music without Lennon and McCartney directing him to. None of his other works have anything like Tomorrow Never Knows, A Day in the Life, etc.
Cmon man, SSSS is such a joyful, intense track
>I mean, Paul McCartney's is clearly The Beach Boys. On every single Mccartney track, you can perceive a beach boys influence on his songwriting.
Fucking retard.
this. the beatles didnt give a fuck about the beach boys. all their shit sounds the same anyway.
Why
McCartney has said Sgt Pepper's was them trying to get "there" before Wilson did.