First to do Math Rock?

What was the first Math Rock record?

Is it Slint?

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Was it Victims Family?

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Was it NoMeansNo?

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Was it Massacre?

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No, it was King Crimson.

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Fucking plebs. It was obviously To Pimp a Butterfly.

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This just sounds like Circus music you’d hear in a movie.

the 4/4 faggots go swimming (in C)

This is the winner here folks.

Have any early Math Rock bands explicitly said they were influenced by King Crimson?

The bigger question is which band was the first to bring Math Rock into the Midwest Emo scene.

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its essentially what fripp was doing in the 80s but in the 60s instead

It’s just Zappa trying to be the avant-garde composers that he liked.

Black Flag was a kind of precursor to math rock, especially during the punk jazz stuff, and KC was somewhat of an influence there.
But Discipline is more math rock in a lot of its aspects rather than who it influenced. e.g. Hansson and Karlsson being considered prog even though they didn't influence anybody, really.

So basically King Crimson > Black Flag’s jazzy period > early Math Rock like Slint?

this is basically math rock with a bluesy twist

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yeah i agree, and he ended up accidentally creating math rock in the process.

Basically, yeah.
But if we're talking about Black Flag, then Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Starless and Bible Black and Red (especially Larks Pt. II, Fracture and Red's title track) are all definitely proto-math rock. There's also Exposure, which has "Breathless" which definitely sounds like math rock.

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Listen to the 2nd half of veteran's day poppy and tell me that isn't a slint riff

The dismemberment plan

Nah, it’s Cap’n Jazz

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In fact I think Cap’n Jazz totally pioneered the Midwest Emo scene. I don’t get it when people say it was Sunny Day Real Estate, Cap’n Jazz was around 3 years before them.

>Slint
>math rock

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Try their first album.

American Football is shitty and boring overrated Indie Rock

add in Boy's Life too.

king crimson in 1970
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The thing in Frame by Frame where one guitar plays in 7/8 and the other one plays an almost identical phrase in 13/8 so that they start in sync then drift off and re sync is one of the coolest ideas in guitar music.

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4:18 for the complete effect

Steve Reich was a big influence too even though he’s a classical composer and not rock music.

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this

Frame by Frame is one of must rock music compositions ever. Fripp and Belew are fucking geniuses.