Let me set something straight: if you are a person who admires the works of composers like Mahler, Debussy, Wagner, Brahms, Dvorak, Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, Verdi, Rimsky-Korsakov, Strauss, Strauß, Bruckner, Ravel, Saint-Saens, Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Chopin, Sibelius, or any composers like these, then you are a person that enjoys having your ears tickled by emotionally manipulative “art” that is completely lacking in intellectual complexity, substance, coherency, and subtlety. You enjoy gulping down the fermented festering feces that these sacred cows have poured onto your plate and down your gullet. You enjoy settling for mediocrity disguised as creativity, you enjoy the experience of these bullshitters ejaculating directly into your face their obscene compound of smug artistic haughtiness and paradoxical cynicism. These people replaced genuine craftsmanship and honest, thoughtful expression with ungodly excess, jarring chord changes, screeching brass sections and laughably insincere pastiches of folk melodies. If this is the kind of music you champion, then no you are not an individual possessing good taste. Yes, you are a stinking pleb.
What if you like (most of) those people but also prefer Monteverdi, Palestrina, Bach, etc.?
Benjamin Cook
It should, but there's no room for beauty in this world.
Thomas Jackson
Wow look at this fucking liberal faggot
James Sanders
wouldn't call his beard a basedbeard
Isaiah Parker
>classical n00b >have to listen to Mozart's Symphony 41 and Beethoven's Symphony 5 for music appreciation class As someone who listens mostly to prog and metal, what am I in for?
suuuure In any case, you’ll like movement 1 of the fifth and will probably dislike the 41st. If you're interested in classical you should start with Bach. I think you would find his works more palatable.
Carson Garcia
Might want to learn basic shit like sonata form, counterpoint, and fugues so you don't go in blind Also you'll probably be completely fucked if you don't know how to appreciate soft noise
>soft noise as in, quieter sections of the song? or is this a term I'm not familiar with
Jacob Gutierrez
This is fucking great, better than the copy/paste shit that dominates the field.
Easton Cox
Yeah basically
Isaac Bennett
Wow I never realized she was just doing an upstart with this.
Daniel Jackson
upskirt ffs
Anthony Clark
To compensate for that fucking hairline.
Easton Perez
the Vietnamese Phil doesn't like the recording they made? Just slap their other official name when they are on opera duty and a really weird picture on the cover. Some weird collectors will buy it.
Ethan Nelson
You've now made me realize I've never heard a recording from the Vietnamese Philharmonic
Sebastian Carter
no surprise that the Americans lost to the second Vietnamese school
Notice the weak facial hair. Full beards are manly and aesthetic.
William Phillips
His was a totally a sóybeard. He never had a beard in his life and he chose to grow one for shock value.
Bentley Russell
user, you don't just randomly sprout a beard. He would have to actually devout time to growing one. There's no shock in that
Evan Campbell
because he was insecure about his lack of masculin facial features
Jose Jenkins
i'll come out and say it that im new to these threads, is this pasta? I like most of the composers listed there and I can't understand why anyone would say that they have "no substance" dont tell me to get out pls
>can't understand why anyone would say they have no substance I don't agree with the idea but the reason is: 1. Very obvious emotionally. You know exactly what most of them want the music to be (sad, heroic, angsty etc.) most of the time. Not "subtle" enough. 2. Very loud during dramatic moments. This is what the "firetruck" meme refers to. Most of those composers are Romantic and they had large(er than in the previous eras) brass sections in their orchestrations. People call it firetruck music because a firetruck is loud and tries to get your attention with the noise. 3. Not enough technicality. Most of those composers aren't as well versed in writing say a fugue or a passacaglia as in the Baroque era, or to hold back the emotion in the music for as tasteful a control of its form as in the Classical. They instead opt to pour their emotion into the music (the whole point of Romanticism for instance, even if some composers there aren't Romantic) So if you ever see someone talking shit about 1830-onwards composers that's porbably why. Also yes it's pasta, it's the fourth thread its been posted I think.
I love the Bach of the Brandenburg Concertos and Harpsichord Concertos, like 1052 and 1054. But Goldberg Variations and Art of Fugue bore me. What am I doing wrong?
Christopher Wilson
Romanticism is too popular and universally liked for pseuds on /classical/ >Not enough technicality. Most of those composers aren't as well versed in writing say a fugue or a passacaglia as in the Baroque era, or to hold back the emotion in the music for as tasteful a control of its form as in the Classical They were more technical and skilled than Baroque composers.
>At this time Brahms also chose to change his image. Having been always clean-shaven, in 1878 he surprised his friends by growing a beard, writing in September to the conductor Bernhard Scholz "I am coming with a large beard! Prepare your wife for a most awful sight."[50] The singer George Henschel recalled that after a concert "I saw a man unknown to me, rather stout, of middle height, with long hair and a full beard. In a very deep and hoarse voice he introduced himself as 'Musikdirektor Müller'... an instant later, we all found ourselves laughing heartily at the perfect success of Brahms's disguise". The incident also displays Brahms's love of practical jokes.[51]
Christian Myers
Lets settle the question once and for all: who invented romantic music? No meme answers please.
Justin Miller
Zelenka unironically
Kevin Murphy
>Strauß Strauss. Which Strauss? Johann Strauss. (exasperated) Which Johann Strauss?
Asher Young
Schubert >b-but beethoven romanticism isn't jusst about being loud or emotional
>ungodly excess, jarring chord changes, screeching brass sections and laughably insincere pastiches of folk melodies All in one: youtube.com/watch?v=U6vJmHiHBMo
Ryder Gray
sorry but no, schubert does AMAZING romantic compositions, but to claim he INVENTED romanticism? Fuck no.
Josiah Howard
Unironicly a great reply. Congratulations for making me laugh sincerely and with great jollity.
Christopher Richardson
>ungodly excess, jarring chord changes, screeching brass sections and laughably insincere pastiches of folk melodies Sounds pretty epic when you put it that way.
