The great debate

The great debate.

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Nirvana > Smashing Pumpkins
Mellon Collie > Nevermind

There's no debate, Cobain is a legend and Corgan is a joke
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leukemia boy sounds retarded yet the other guy killed himself
lose lose situation

Billy cucked Kurt so he is instantly best.

They both have their good points, but I've got to go with Billy Corgan on this one

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Anybody else dislike artists just because they’re ugly? Main reason why I can’t into rap.

Kurt probably wouldn't have aged to look like an angry baby.

>Mellon Collie > Nevermind
Why is Filler Collie everyone's favorite Pumpkins album?

>still getting cucked 25 years later
nothing personal

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People who have sex will say cobain

>People who have sex
Like Billy, with Cobain's wife

I don't understand this forced rivalry. Is it just because they both fucked Courtney?

Cobain because Corgan lived and became such an insufferable tool.

This is true. I fucked a girl from /x/ and Yas Forums and I say cobain.

Lol it’s only a debate for Billy. Nirvana were a generational defining band. Pumpkins were a good band.

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My mans over here has stuff that aged better than both of these cretins. If you play the instrument well, you would know that Corgan’s speedy technical proficiency is soulless outside of his sometimes interesting riffs. Cobain was extremely effective at using the guitar as a prop, he could skirt trying because he had a consistent output of pop/noise rock and died young. Malkmus the only one of these niggas I can still play along with the record without cringing. He didn’t whore himself out to the point of being a complete marketable parody. He gets awfully close sometimes though. Severely overlooked/underrated despite his playing style being more creative/intricate than Keith Richards.

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Because it's really good and you don't have good taste

They're both really talented, they're both late-comers to their respective scenes, they both made some of the best rock albums of the 90s, and they're both unbearably retarded politically (Kurt on the left, Billy on the right).

>better singer
Cobain
>better guitarist
Billy
>better songwriter
Cobain

>I fucked a girl from /x/ and Yas Forums
story?
>I say cobain
also based

>Noooo women cant have freedom, they have to be under the boot of men...
Stfu misogynist

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this is objectively true. you also forgot to mention
>better albums
Cobain

The real answer is Cantrell

oh hell no. aic sucks ass. if you want to bring in an actually good competitor, bring up chris cornell. he's the only mainstream rocker from the 90's i can think of that can compete with cobain at all

I guess this is kinda better than every Nirvana and Pumpkins song
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kek

you're wrong and a idiot

Siamese > Gish > Melons

you're wrong...

>Severely overlooked/underrated despite his playing style being more creative/intricate than Keith Richards.


lol even mention Stephen Malkmus in the same sentence as based Keef.

LOL

Oh shut the fuck up.

Malkmus learned everything he knows from 1980’s Flying Nun Records bands such as The Bats, The Clean, Tall Dwarfs, and Bird Neat Roys. Bands like The Boo Radleys bear Pavement at their own game. Even Mark E. Smith stated that Pavement ripped off The Fall on several occasions....so “innovative” my ass. Also more than Keith Richards? Just lol.

>Also more than Keith Richards?

Lol I know, Keith Richards doesn't even know who malkmus is.

>He didn’t whore himself out to the point of being a complete marketable parody.

his billboard in Williamsburg was the most disgusting thing I saw in 2019

>Kurt has a dogshit voice and only wrote awful music
>Sir William Patrick Corgan Jr. Esq. has a dogshit voice and wrote good (occasionally great) music
I wonder

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I used to when I was in middle school. If I saw the faces behind the music I loved the most and they were ugly, I'd drop them and move on to something else. Doing this as a grown adult is pathetic though.

you're comparing someone whose life was cut short before even reaching their peak to someone who was able to have a stable enough career

Ian McKaye

siamese dream btfos nirvanas entire discography within the first few minutes. sure nirvanas more popular but only in the sense that normies have heard smells like teen spirit and literally not one other fucking song

>puts Gish ahead of Mellon
>calls other people idiots

Cornell was better than all of them.

>steals your wife and makes you kill yourself
heh, nothing personell cuck cobain

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Nirvana.
Nevermind defined a generation and re-invigorated guitar music in the mainstream. Not that that in itself is a reason to favour Nirvana over SP but musically, Kobain's works are tight and catchy.

That's not to say SP didn't also come up with a lot of great tracks but the big charm of their albums lies in the textural qualities rather than Corgan's songwriting, in a lot of cases.

Don't get me wrong, the variation in sounds on say Mellon Collie is pretty genius, especially in the 2nd disc but a lot of the tracks lose their charm if stripped back to core components.

>Muh popularity and sales
Kys, go listen to dua lipa tranny faggit

Except Adore

Billy: 6'3"
Kurt: 5'9"

based

Anyone saying Kurt Cobain was better is under the age of 18 and should be banned.

Corgan, and it's really not even close.

No, that's monumentally retarded

right, and Cobain was one before he died anyway. They both suck and their bands are overrated garbage.

Cornell blows Cobain away it's not even a contest

>Nevermind defined a generation and re-invigorated guitar music in the mainstream.
Bullshit. Quit parroting what music journalists say as if it's the gospel truth.
Smashing Pumpkins was the better band, and I thought that back in the early '90s

>Billy is a better songwriter
>Every SP album up to Machina is superior to every Nirvana album
>SP had a better drummer
>Chicago is superior to Seattle
>Billy didn’t anhero
>Billy is based, Kurt was a shitlib
>Billy Owns NWA Wrestling
>Billy isn’t a junkie
>Kurt had better hair

Corgan's singing voice is both great and shit. When he's lower pitched it sounds fantastic, but when the higher nasal whine kicks in it sounds grating. I think he went and got proper signing lessons at one point after the Pumpkins broke up, and from then on his singing has been sub-par.

Anyway, Corgan > Cobain

well, one was a manlet that got depressed and killed himself

also had a kid with Corgan's leftovers

>>Every SP album up to Machina is superior to every Nirvana album
I would argue that Machina is better than Nirvana's albums. Machina gets shit on a lot for some reason, but it's a great album.

>I think he went and got proper signing lessons at one point after the Pumpkins broke up, and from then on his singing has been sub-par.
The dropped consonants and vibrato shit appeared a lot from this point onwards.

You're right that Corgan made an embarrassment of himself

But you're wrong if you think Cobain wouldn't have ended up the same if he had lived

He'd be some insufferable leftist, just as he always was, except these days he'd be whining about Trump or whatever

Nirvana is so one dimensional and bland that it's ridiculous. Nobody else sounds like The Smashing Pumpkins, and Gish, Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie, Pisces Iscariot, and also Adore top anything that Nirvana has ever done. The only reason people didn't like Adore was because it was so different from their previous stuff, but if you listen to each of their albums, they all sounded different from each other. Adore has For Martha, The Tale Of Dusty And Pistol Pete, To Sheila, Pug, Perfect, Tear, and Apple + Oranges. It's a fantastic album. In conclusion, Nirvana is not even on the same level of The Smashing Pumpkins.