Why is such a shit band so famous?

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I used to think nothing of it but it's actually a good band and influenced a shit ton of other bands for a good reason

You know what I don’t get? Why the fuck they always used to shit talk glam metal all the time, and even now still do sometimes but rarely every do you hear a glam god talk about metallica, they’re one big COPE machine

justice is not good

you're one of the few people i've found who shares a similar opinion to me. Kill Em All is my favorite Metallica album. It's a unique record for them cuz to me i don't think they're fully fleshed out as a band, and you can hear an almost punk sound on the record.

I like KEA, but Hetfield's voice sounds a little too scratchy and young for me

They used to be good. That's it basically. They were good, and they've been riding that fame for 30 years ever since.
If these weren't as good as they were (AJFA kinda sucks though) then Metallica would be irrelevant now.

90% of people have basic/simple music tastes.

weak bait

I wasn't aware Dave wrote anesthesia and that for whom the bell tolls was a hangar 18 rip off.

OK

Fuck off

cliff was cool
youtube.com/watch?v=qdlQyNe_9tE

you could say that about any group

>They were good, and they've been riding that fame for 30 years ever since.
I know it's subjective as fuck, but Dee Snyder said that they worked their asses off while most metal bands were just cashing in on the scene. There were a lot of good independent bands out there, better than metallica that didn't quite survive.
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware Dave wrote creeping death was a hangar 18 rip off.

This is an often underlooked fact. There's a reason why he gets writing credits on practically every track despite not writing anything at all.
No joke, Bad Brains were playing at blazing speed and by that time grindcore was happening in Britain.

>There were a lot of good independent bands out there, better than metallica that didn't quite survive.
That's always true in every field, it keeps people humble when they understand how much talent goes into thte ground anonymously for every big star act. Every superstar writer, actor, band, singer, comedian had to trash and walk over the bones of a hundred others to make it. Luck plays a part.

It makes a lot of the 'what's better' arguments here pointless.

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It's their best

Kill 'Em All is the worst of those four

Just replace Kirk with Dave, and it becomes a perfect band.

They have enough "credibility" as one time champs of the underground to put status centric people at ease, enough accessibility to people who don't like music too chaotic but still want aggression, and they managed to avoid a lot of 80's tropes that might make them seem "too dated" to some from newer generations who prefer more contemporary styles.

And The Black Album was huge.

I don't care what contrarians will say, Master Of Puppets is a magnum opussy. Oh what, you think two of the songs are filler? They're fine but even if The Thing That Could Not be and Leper Messiah were the most filler songs of all time, the album is still saved by the title track being one of the greatest of all time, along with shit that just rips like Battery, Damage Inc, and everything else just being straight solid

>You know what I don’t get? Why the fuck they always used to shit talk glam metal all the time, and even now still do sometimes but rarely every do you hear a glam god talk about metallica, they’re one big COPE machine
Because they couldn't get the juice in LA in their early days, imagine being the bunch of nerds Metallica were aside from Dave opening for Ratt or something in LA and getting pissed that you can't get as much attention.

They will try to turn it around like "YAAA WE WERE TOO PUNK FOR THE METAL CLUBS AND TOO METAL FOR THE PUNK CLUBS MAN, WE WERE TRUUUUE REVOLUTIONARIEEEEES" but really they were salty. LA was the place to be and they weren't popular there.

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you know the sad thing is if they actually called Dave he would rejoin them in a heartbeat and fuck megadeth

I can imagine Dave and James being the typical cali boys trying to fit in the LA scene, but I always thought Cliff was a legit punk fan and Lars, well, he was into yuropean bands.

According to Dave, James was a huge pussy who ran away from fights. But this is according to Dave so who knows if he's true or just trying to make himself look like the hero, but I can picture a young pre fame James being more of a shy autist type.

Probably, but considering it's Dave, it's probably more about him trying to pick up fights with just about everyone.
But yeah, I can also imagine James being autistically shy, considering his upbringing and the fact that he also became a raging alcoholic, probably to compensate that.

Kill em All - underrated
Ride the Lightning - Their best
Master of Puppets - Overrated
And Justice - Worst production on any metallica album ever with 2 good songs

>Worst production on any metallica album ever with 2 good songs
The production is fine, the mix is just fucked up.

Ride the Lightning is possibly the best thrash album ever

What are those 2 songs? Because I think Blackened, One, The Shortest Straw and Dyer's Eve are peak Metallica.

shit-tier opinion
bloated album
kys

One is largely a boring song and Dyer's Eve is peak Slayer-type of thrash cringe, I know it's fast but people need to stop sucking that song's dick. Blackened, Shortest Straw and Harvester are the good tracks on the album.

Dave is actually more MUH BROTHERS BETRAYED ME than he is MUH METALLICA. I don't think Dave might've actually considered rejoining Metallica before 1986.

Of all the ballads they made, One is easily the most dynamic, I would totally get your point if you also think Fade to Black and Sanitarium are also boring.
Also, Dyer's Eve is more complex than the average generic thrash song. I mean, just compare it to Motorbreath.

>One is easily the most dynamic
You're autistic and need something shiny to keep your attention, we get it.

Post your dream greatest hits album from greatest thrash band of all time. I'll start:

01. Battery
02. Fuel
03. Sad But True
04. The Unforgiven
05. ...And Justice For All
06. Whiplash
07. Fight Fire With Fire
08. Harvester Of Sorrow
09. The Outlaw Torn
10. The Call Of Ktulu
11. Enter Sandman
12. Leper Messiah
13. Bleeding Me
14. Dyers Eve

Sorry, I forgot I was on Yas Forums and anything beyond buzzwords is hard to comprehend.

Dave wouldn't be Dave and Megadeth wouldn't exist without him SEETHING about Metallica for decades. And thank god he did.

Actually SIX if you include No Life til Leather

Not to mention he joined them to play some songs in San Francisco not so long ago. I'm starting to think the beef is mostly Dave playing his character.

Lars got them far in the early days, but most of their success from Master on is due to Q-Prime and their management of the band. Lars likes to pretend he's in the driver's seat, but James has always been the final say and veto.

They were still a club band when they made it, and sound like it.

James' voice is easy. He was completely untrained, and eventually blew his throat out making Justice. That shit catches up to you. It got scratchier over time, and rougher, because he was probably getting scars and nodes on his vocal chords. I think he says in one of the movies that he took singing lessons after Justice and having surgery, to protect and strengthen his singing voice. On KEA, his vocal chords weren't fucked up yet, and he hadn't learned to project his voice correctly working with good monitors and PAs and recording. He dropped into more chest voice after KEA, probably just learning his throat wouldn't be wrecked the next day if he still sang like on KEA and in the clubs.

becayse James Hetfield go YEAHYUH

Replace ...And Justice for All with Black

I’m right.

>Because they couldn't get the juice in LA in their early days
LOL, not even remotely true.

You're a shit band, OP! X(

This is better

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>self-meme
you're embarrassing

replacd Kill ‘Em all with Reload. Also At Anger is better than Master of Puppets. Ride the Lightning should be Black.

All of those opinions are awful, kill yourself

I'd call it a best of more than a greatest hits but
>Disc 1
1 Hit The Lights
2 Four Horsemen
3 Seek And Destroy
4 Metal Militia
5 Fight Fire With Fire
6 Ride The Lightning
7 For Whom The Bell Tolls
8 Creeping Death
9 Battery
10 Master Of Puppets
11 Disposable Heroes
12 Welcome Home
13 Orion
14 Blackened
15 And Justice For All
16 One
17 Harvester Of Sorrow
18 Enter Sandman
19 Sad But True
20 The Unforgiven
21 The God That Failed
>Disc 2
1 Ain't My Bitch
2 Until It Sleeps
3 King Nothing
4 Bleeding Me
5 Fuel
6 The Memory Remains
7 The Unforgiven 2
8 Fixxxer
9 No Leaf Clover
10 Some Kind Of Monster
11 Sweet Amber
12 The Unnamed Feeling
13 All Within My Hands
14 Broken Beat And Scarred
15 All Nightmare Long
16 Cyanide
17 The Unforgiven 3
18 Atlas Rise
19 Moth Into Flame
20 Halo On Fire
21 Spit Out The Bone

This is really trying to be fair and cover their whole career, though.

How is it not true? Metallica themselves have talked about it before, they have said they didn't have any following in LA and succeeded in the Bay Area

>L-Load and R-R-Reload SUCK!

> I only like the c-c-COOL metallica albums...

Come back when you like REAL rock music, kid

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Yeah, you're right RTL was generic
because it was GENRE-DEFINING you fucking RETARD
The trash that comes after it is the imitation. truly, truly kill yourself

Load is fine. ReLoad is mostly shit. I'd actually put St. Anger as a whole album over ReLoad even though I'd most likely put ReLoad's top tracks over any St. Anger song.
ReLoad sounds too artificial, it's probably just me.

I'd go reverse-chronological
disc 1:
1. Hardwired
2. Moth Into Flame
3. Spit Out the Bone
4. The Day That Never Comes
5. All Nightmare Long
6. St Anger [single edit]
7. I Disappear
8. Fuel
9. King Nothing
10. Until it Sleeps
11. The Unforgiven
12. Enter Sandman
13. Sad But True
14. Nothing Else Matters
disc 2:
1. Blackened
2. Harvester of Sorrow
3. One
4. Battery
5. Master of Puppets
6. Orion
7. Creeping Death
8. For Whom the Bell Tolls
9. Fade to Black
10. Whiplash
11. Jump in the Fire
12. Seek and Destroy