Is he an LGBTP civil rights pioneer?
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Wether he is or not he exemplifies their movement exactly
Man i'd pay good money to get Ian Watkins into a sludgy noise rock band with Brainbombs-tier lyrics and riffs
Will he ever make music again? And will he ever get a biopic? It's not like Hollywood hasn't made movies with graphic depictions of child rape before.
I hated lost prophets from day one and I'm glad my taste has been emphatically vindicated
You mean you can't separate the art from the artist?
Of course I can. But in this case Ian Watkins is an expression of the shitness of his band.
One of the Need for Speed games had a Lostprophets song and even a car with Lostprophets written on it. I used to hang out in Need for Speed fan sites and it's funny how some edgelords who liked the game were in complete denial of what the guy did even when someone pointed it out (mods would also delete any comments about it in one particular website). They still say stuff like "awesome car and awesome band!!". You can still find mods being made recently that port the "Lostprophets car" into other games.
Some comments on youtube still say that song from the game is great and how they are nostalgic for the hearing it in the game. The comments are from recent years after the guy was confirmed to be a baby rapist, so you see them mixed between the "this guy is a monster" comments. I think the song was called Ride.
In all seriousness I wonder what was up with this dude. Fucked too many groupies, got desensitized, and just wandered into harder shit?
Those groupies were probably underage too. I guess it's perfectly fine when teen pop bands fuck teen girls. It's only when someone fucks a baby that he crosses a line.
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i think this is unironically true
Nice bait. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation and will never be considered as such
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Why exactly is it not considered a sexual orientation?
Pedophilia was acceptable in some cultures many years ago (and still is). And you can say the opposite for being homosexual and bisexual, some cultures have only started considering it an orientation as opposed to degeneracy in recent years.
>Why exactly is it not considered a sexual orientation?
Because it's not a recognized, socially acceptable identity. Being gay has become an identity instead of just the act of having sex with another man.
Yeah but
>will never be considered as such
is not accurate. You don't know if it will become socially acceptable some day. I mean being gay was not socially acceptable years ago. Maybe pedos some day manage to convince society to think about it as an "identity". I don't see it as something so impossible considering there have been some movies about pedophilia in recent years and it might get into the mainstream soon.
>Some comments on youtube still say that song from the game is great and how they are nostalgic for the hearing it in the game.
I get so fucking sick of all the nostalgia addicts on YouTube. I also hate the "X sent me here" or "Like if X sent you here" shit. Fuck those people.
nostalgia is normal you idgit
I didn't write "will never be accepted as such."
I hate those too. Also the "im 12 and I like this (old) music not todays music todays music is crap". Like are they trying to impress boomers or something?
>nostalgia is normal you idgit
It's really gotten out of control in recent years.
Ok anonymous. That other user did.
I think kids like that are just trying to act "grown up."
nah you're a pioneer of retarded questions though.
Because the very nature of it is that one party is unable to consent. Any physical expression of it is straight up abuse.
Saying that pedophilia could be considered an orientation is like saying wanting to rape people could be an orientation, absolutely batshit insane.
>one party is unable to consent
you could argue the same about letting children undergo sex reassignment therapy, but it is socially acceptable in the US
As someone that unironically used to be one of those kids, I literally just knew fuck all about music so I just assumed everything new was bad
children can consent
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No, giving a child a sex change isn't socially acceptable to most people. It may be acceptable to trannies and trans rights advocates, but it squicks the average person.
Children cannot consent to sex. It's the law, so there's nothing to argue.
what? just because the law says so, doesn't mean it is. you are fucking stupid. the law says children can have a sex change, so you're being hypocritical
I'm sorry to inform you that some people are pushing the idea that children can consent. If they ever manage to convince the right people, pedophilia might become mainstream.
I don't support it, I think it's as sick as you think it is, but I just have a pretty negative idea of the future.
I think that with the right marketing and time they can convince the average NPC of anything eventually.
Best thing all this was watching all his teenie fans and staunch defenders on the LP facebook page get their cold, hard dose of reality as the guilty verdict was announced.
Laws have changed. The law didn't say women could vote at some point in history. Go back in time and some people probably thought women voting was outrageous.
Let's be honest a baby can't consent, or really articulate it's opinion on the matter
I missed out on that. I watched a mini documentary on youtube and I was surprised to hear that the band was apparently very famous and popular. I thought they were always nobodies. I never saw a music video by them on TV in my country (I had the Latin American MTV that still played plenty of emo pop and punk and stuff like this, but not this band in particular).
I unironically agree, there absolutely nothing wrong with fucking teenagers, that's an American mentality.
>about letting children undergo sex reassignment therapy, but it is socially acceptable in the US
I think most people draw the line at discussing things and letting people access information about that kind of stuff.
The surgery is many steps too far.
A baby can't consent to an abortion and abortion is legal since people managed to push the idea that a fetus is not a real person. Or that the mother's consent is more important than the fetus.
Yes think whatever you want about whether a fetus is or isn't a person but a lot of people think it is, and it didn't stop abortion from becoming legal.
I think people could push that a baby's consent is not required for sexual acts if they market the idea right.
Surgery yes but hormones that cause changes that eventually can't be reversed are allowed in some places as far as I know.
Since when is consent of others an essential element that constitutes sexuality? That's contingent, in principle it's possible that an homosexual only feels attracted to people who happen to not be able to consent, like all the people he ever felt attracted to were retarded or mentally disabled in some capacity that prevents them from being able to consent, also you argument assumes that free will is real so you'd have to demonstrate that first (and even then your conclusion would still be a non sequitur)
>what? just because the law says so, doesn't mean it is.
Yeah, it does. Do you actually believe that a child can make a rational decision to engage in sexual activity with an adult, considering the power differential? Are you actually arguing for pedophilia?
>the law says children can have a sex change, so you're being hypocritical
I'd like to see a link to that law. I've never heard of such a thing.
>I think that with the right marketing and time they can convince the average NPC of anything eventually.
I really don't see pedophilia gaining popular approval without some kind of massive collapse of society. It may be tolerated in some places like Afghanistan, but adult men have been buggering boys there since time immemorial.
>Laws have changed. The law didn't say women could vote at some point in history. Go back in time and some people probably thought women voting was outrageous.
There's a huge difference between allowing women to vote and fucking their children.
>Children cannot consent to sex. It's the law, so there's nothing to argue.
You know that's not the case in all countries right user? For example the age of consent in Germany is 14.
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>Yeah, it does. Do you actually believe that a child can make a rational decision to engage in sexual activity with an adult, considering the power differential? Are you actually arguing for pedophilia?
yeah, children can consent just fine. i don't see the argument, you seem offended
I still think that it is outrageous and that the laws should change again.
that stupid meme became popular all of a sudden, it's the stupidest shit
The idea of consent is man-made and it's quite vague and hard to define. Who said a person can consent at age 18 but not at age 17 for example? Especially since everyone matures at a different pace.
>you seem offended
No, I don't. You seem to want to offend, though, in more ways than one.
Do you really believe that people below 18 are incapable of consent?
You guys are fucking idiots I hope they never lift the quarantine so I dont have to see any of you retards anymore
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>Eisen pleaded guilty of the charges in California and was sentenced to a year in state prison
This has nothing to do with music, and arguing in favor of pedophiles being able to fuck kids has been done to death on Yas Forums. Go to Yas Forums or maybe Yas Forums if you want to discuss this particular topic. Really, it's just beating a dead horse.
I can stay right here, offending pedos are reviled everywhere
Because "child" is not a gender or a sex. It's an stage in development. A stage in which sexual characteristics are by the way not yet developed. Hence, sexual attraction to them does not make sense and is absolutely perverted. It is not in the best interest of kids to be having old fart cock shoved in them. They are better off playing, learning, etc. The only benefit in a pedo relationship is for the pedo, that he gets to fulfill his sexual urges. What's in it for the child? Having the pace of his/her development disrupted, losing innocence, growing up early, getting diseases that they shouldn't yet be getting, etc. A pedo "relationship" is not even viable in the long run because it is to be expected that once the kid becomes an adult, his "partner" (actually predator) will have to end the "relationship" because he can no longer satisfy his sexual "orientation" in it. If by any chance any kid decides to experiment sexually, they can do it with kids around their own age. No need to bring an old pervert to take advantage of the situation.
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>b--but there are a lot of people who prefer older yet they get no shit for it
Because it's attraction for people who are consenting adults and hence have their brains and sexual characteristics developed.
>b-but what about gays? Why don't they get shit for their sexual preference
First of all, they do. Second. Again. Consenting adults with brains and body developed. Consensual and hence no harm.
Kids are innocent and they inspire fondness, appreciation and desire to protect in normal human beings. Getting your cock or clit hard to them is just plain wrong and absurd
I hate it so much. it is almost singlehandedly fueling my hatred for zoomers.
This
They cannot do informed consent. They cannot hold responsibility
Nice strawman there. Nobody is saying that ability to consent determines sexual attraction. Developed sexual characteristics should, at least in non-insane human beings. Usually, ability to consent comes with them. Additionally, society places some limits which include a safety factor in order to ensure that people are legally allowed to have sex when they are developed and can hold enough responsibility. In most civilized parts of the world,, this has been set to 16-18 y/o (I know that there are exceptions), and this limits must be respected just like you have to accept any other law
There's also shit like *X has joined the chat*. What is that supposed to mean? What chat?
Their idea of life is sitting around in discord, snapchat, facebook, etc. groups all day long
>Usually, ability to consent comes with them.
That proves my point that it's contingent and not essential, your point is that pedophilia is not a sexuality because children cannot consent, I said that sexuality is not contingent of consent, you just conceded my point.
What the fuck is the point of this thread? OP is retarded Yas Forumsnigger bait
Also you still haven't demonstrated that free will is real
>Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation and will never be considered as such
Fringe Libs are dying to make pedophilia the new civil rights issue.
What's wrong with pedophilia?
>What the fuck is the point of this thread?
People who want to fuck kids love to talk about why they should be able to fuck kids whenever they're anonymous. That's why they're doing it. It happens on Yas Forums all the time.
By kids I mean prepubescents. As I said, society puts limits that place the age of consent well over the start of the development of sexual characteristics. Years ever. Still, these laws are as such for a reason and they must be respected. It is in the best interest of the minor. The only disadvantage is that old farts that thing that they're entitled to tight brand new bodies get cock-blocked. If you violate these laws, you are literally a monkey and I have no sympathy for you and have absolutely no problem with society and the law treating you just like they would treat a legit pedo. In fact I applaud it. These 12-15 year olds DO NO need you to experiment with their sexuality.They can do so among themselves.
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That's a paranoid talking point, I don't see pedophilia ever being accepted in a way in the West. Conservatives and liberals, straight and gay people, all overwhelmingly hate pedos. This is a good thing, of course.
The age of consent has been moved in history, they might just move it down to 12 and then down to 10 some day.
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>they might just move it down to 12 and then down to 10 some day
Not in the West, not without complete societal collapse.
tbf I used to spend a lot of time on AIM in the late 90s/early 00s (and mIRC and ICQ).
I just get annoyed by how much it’s been over done. on certain videos it’s almost every single comment (ASMR videos in particular)