What is the best notation program and what are some tricks for being more effective in these programs?
Jacob Peterson
This is the chosen thread.
Cameron Myers
Sibelius and Finale are both industry standards, try them both and see which one you like better (though honestly most people will just stick with the one they tried first).
Learn all of the keyboard shortcuts you can.
William Garcia
Mendelssohn is the second best romantic and is the master of emotion and musical drama
Liam Cruz
How do I cope with the fact that all the greatest composers started playing their instruments when they were below the age of 10 and I started at the age of 19?
>Sibelius and Finale are both industry standards But are they good though? For the compatability and cooperation, isn't it possible to export your score to musicxml format which both sibelius and finale can read? Are there some important features of a sibelius or finale file that a musicxml file cannot capture? >Learn all of the keyboard shortcuts you can. Got it!
Gavin Morris
>When he was seven, Ravel started piano lessons >Mendelssohn began taking piano lessons from his mother when he was six, and at seven was tutored by Marie Bigot in Paris >Rachmaninoff began piano and music lessons organised by his mother at age four
Its literally impossible to escape the hell that is being raised by incompetent people that dont give you a thorough education
Asher Mitchell
They are both excellent and industry standard for good reason. I use Sibelius, I found it more intuitive but you can use either and no one will care.
I've never had an issue with compatibility between programs using musicxml. If you're uncertain about something specific you can probably just google it. But for 99% of what each program is capable of it will work perfectly.
I can't stress enough how much time you'll save once you know how to notate almost entirely from the keyboard. Every time you reach for the mouse look up what keyboard shortcut you could have used instead.
Violin concerti: Schumann > Mendelssohn > Beethoven > Brahms prove me wrong (protip: you can't)
Matthew Sanders
I mean, with that attitude of course it is.
You've clearly already made up your mind that you'd rather be a sad sack of shit who never amounts to anything than try and realize your actual potential.
Or maybe that's what's stopping you? The realization that you don't actually have any potential, and that by trying and failing, you'll only confirm your worst fears?
Despite what you're trying to convince yourself of, you are your own person. Your parents aren't responsible for you anymore. Education isn't given, it's taken. In ten years from now are you still going to be whining and blaming your parents? Or are you going to spend the next decade trying to become the person you want to be? You'll probably be alive anyway, so you might as well be ten years older and wiser than ten years older and still a little bitch.
Good luck user, but we all know you're not going to make it.
Chase Hall
Mozart 3 > all
Carson James
This is possibly the worst recording of the st matthew passion wtf are u doing m8
I have been watching some reviews on youtube, and honestly, Sibelius seems better. >I've never had an issue with compatibility between programs using musicxml. If you're uncertain about something specific you can probably just google it. But for 99% of what each program is capable of it will work perfectly. Okay, sounds great! >I can't stress enough how much time you'll save once you know how to notate almost entirely from the keyboard. Every time you reach for the mouse look up what keyboard shortcut you could have used instead. I can totally imagine this, having gotten to this level of proficiency in other types of software that is unrelated to music. I am very pleased to hear that these programs are designed such that this is possible. The one I am using right now, Musescore (free), doesn't seem to be that good in this regard. At least not out of the box.
Owen Roberts
Musescore is pretty good considering it's free. I tried it around 2011 and it was absolutely garbage. It has improved a lot since, and it seems like it should only get better since they've brought tantacrul onboard.
Ian Fisher
>start learning my first instrument before 10 >be somewhat good at music, all my solfege and piano teachers over the years think I have perfect pitch even though it's just a consistent relative pitch >quit music around 14 >become interested in composition later, in my mid twenties >realize I fucked up my life irreversibly
At least you aren't me, user.
Mason Foster
I'm similar, learnt piano since I was young and am generally musically talented but I was an arrogant idiot of a kid and refused to learn notation or proper pieces, only cared about fucking around and I got away with it because I was a good hack, basically. I did years of exams and playing in school bands by memorising pieces instead of learning how to read the fucking music. I can play any old rock or folk piece of shit on a piano, guitar or a drum kit but all I'd like to do now is play a bit of Bach or something and I'm screwed. I could have been in an orchestra or studied music but I was a moron. It's probably the only thing I seriously regret.
James Anderson
I was too childish to practise as a kid, which is sad because I used to write little melodies on the piano when I was made to sit down, i didnt take music again till me teens and then started composing. I really wish my parents had just guaranteed me perfect pitch when I was a kid. My siblings did play properly and were good but music then became a labour to them and they gave it up when older.
What would you like to listen to as you leave this world?
Last night I watched a movie where a man with Alzheimer's put on Chopin's Nocturnes as he had one last glass of bourbon then blew his brains off. It was generic as shit but got me thinking about this.
Caleb Moore
>What would you like to listen to as you leave this world
The hand in the coat is a freemason sign right? Why were so many composers doing that sign? If it means they were freemasons why were so many of them freemasons? Sibelius, Brahms, Mozart...
>The hand-in-waistcoat (also referred to as hand-inside-vest, hand-in-jacket, hand-held-in, or hidden hand) is a gesture commonly found in portraiture during the 18th and 19th centuries. The pose appeared by the 1750s to indicate leadership in a calm and firm manner. The pose is most often associated with Napoleon I of France due to its use in several portraits made by his artist, Jacques-Louis David, amongst them the 1812 painting Napoleon in His Study.[1] The pose, thought of as being stately, was copied by other portrait painters across Europe and America. Most paintings and photographs show the right hand inserted into the waistcoat/jacket but some sitters appear with the left hand inserted. The pose was also often seen in mid-nineteenth century photography.
Luke Lopez
Uhh is this or the other thread the proper one?
Why are we split
Logan Stewart
yeah like that's not bullshit at all
Colton Evans
shit
Blake Bennett
look at the time of the threads. the other one is the proper one
Noah Cooper
probably a reference to "the hidden hand" behind events, i.e. the masons or jews or whatever
Jace Parker
yeah let's go with your schizophrenic conspiracy theory
Ethan Perry
I think I read somewhere that Mozart was a mason or illuminati or whatever. There is a website called gnosticteachings.org, haven't been on it for a long time. They talk about how the teachings there are what brought forward the great creativity in music or something like that. I think it was in Manly P Hall's book the Secret Teachings of All Ages it talked about all great philosophers being part of secret societies or some shit like that. The first few degrees of Freemasonry they study the Trivium. The Trivium is followed by the Quadrivium and music is one of the subjects of the Quadrivium.
James Martinez
Mozart was a mason, that's well-documented. So was his father Leopold. And J. Haydn. But that doesn't mean that every person depicted with his hand in his coat is a mason.
Julian Jenkins
the other thread is tainted. this is the real thread.
Jason Ross
Writing out on manuscript=soul Notation program=soulless
Carter Brown
Bruch > all
Isaac James
Bruch < all
Elijah Bennett
What is it about Beethoven that attracts genre tourists so much? Every time I see a pseudo intellectual essay on this forsaken board it's always Beethoven. But no one else, not even Mozart or Fagtosky or other entry level composers.
Cameron Miller
Mozart invited Haydn to the lodge meeting once but it's not recorded whether Haydn continued at all
