name a worse genre/fanbase than punk
>worst musicianship
>takes pride in liking obscure shit just for the 'cred'
>simultaneously outspoken fans about most bubble gum pop punk shit because they're 'not one of those guys who only like obscure shit'
>insufferably, aggressively political at every possible opportunity
>can't stop comparing themselves favorably to metal when they share all of the same all the same negative stereotypes + at least half as many unique just to them.
>real movement died out decades ago and they were kept alive on life support by fucking band geeks claiming it was "ska"
>claim to be the underdogs when critics have been overwhelmingly supportive from the beginning: the music has just never sold well because people kind of hate it.
>all the good bands share a fanbase with metal
Name a worse genre/fanbase than punk
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>name a worse genre/fanbase than punk
I can't.
Post-punk and it's derivatives and mathcore have at least ok musicianship usually
>name a worse genre
Hip hop
you don't know true punks. true punks don't care about any of that. they do their drugs, go to the concerts, mosh a bit, do some more drugs, go to a hardcore rave, go to the store to steal some beer and return to their squat where 30 of them are living in 10 rooms without electricity and water.
also the op pic is a stoner metal god btw. love wino
Metal
Scumbags who act like caged animals. If you ever give them the total freedom they demand they wouldn't know what to do with it.
seriously?
lol you're retarded.
Wino's bands, The Obsessed and Saint Vitus, have always been supported more by the punk scene. Doom Metal was such an underground thing in the mid 80s, that it was effectively part of the punk scene. The Saint Vitus Bar is still as much a punk/hardcore bar as it is an extreme metal one.
>worst musicianship
Only true in the first wave, early hardcore, and UK82. Since the late 80s, good punk bands have been about on par with most metal.
>likes bubblegum shit
I have no idea what you're talking about, you're very strange. Most hardcore fans are also metal fans. Most pop punk fans are more indie fans. I think you're arguing with figments of your imagination. Sad
>insufferably, aggressively political
see above
>compare themselves favorably to metal
You're projecting. This is exactly what you're doing. Most punks are also metalheads nowadays
>kept on life support by fucking SKA
God, you're fucking retarded. When ska punk was popular, so were crust punk, post-hardcore, and metalcore, and those scenes were actually a lot better, even if they didn't get on TV as much.
they already have it
OP is spot on
metal is so superior in every way..
unless you need rolling stone kike/fag/nerd/left-wing writers to like you
>highest selling hard rock/metal album of all time
Led Zeppelin IV
>highest selling punk rock album of all time
Dookie, by Greenday
>being a homophobic, anti-semitic, right wing loser
yikes
lol you're being very intellectually dishonest by grouping in hard rock with metal, just so you can put Zeppelin on that side. While hard rock bands like Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple have more to do with metal than punk, there are major hard rock bands that are closer to punk, like The Who.
Checked and true pilled. this board doesn't know shit about punk.
How many of them did you actually speak to? The internet is not like real life. Plus street punk isn't equal with all punk.
ok,
>highest selling hard rock /metal album excluding lead zepplin and AC/DC because according to user I can't include them
Metallica, self titled (aka the black album)
>highest selling punk album
dookie by greenday
Hard Rock is based, Metal is cringe
Holy shit, you lying fucking cocksucker. AC/DC's Back in Black outsold Led Zep IV, and Nirvana's Nevermind outsold Green Day.
Before you make some bullshit up again, check your fucking facts, retard.
>based triggermaster making the s.oyboys seethe
righteous
>AC/DC's Back in Black outsold Led Zep IV
according to who?
>Nirvana's Nevermind
holy shit you cum slurping alt rocking 90s butt slut Nirvana is not punk
If you think Nirvana isn't punk but Green Day is, you're so fucking lost
>according to who
the fucking internet, google it jackass
>If you think Nirvana isn't punk but Green Day is, you're so fucking lost
lol imagine being so objectively wrong about everything, I bet you're a faggot
Nirvana is more punk than any shitty punk band you listen to to. You disagree? Here, suck on my cock so I don't have to listen to the drivel that comes out of your mouth. *shoves my horse cock into your mouth, you gargle and gasp but you can't speak*
you got me beat here
Nirvana is shit tier
yes, and so is punk
somebody just post some goddamn music
Dunning-Kruger effect
crawl back into your hole, pleb
I bet you don't know who Mudhoney, The Jesus Lizard, Jawbreaker, and Bikini Kill are (all contemporaries and associates of Nirvana)
Not in this thread. Just let this thread die, it's worthless
Heh. Punk is shit, I'll give you that.
What do most people think when they think punk? Blink 182? Good Charlotte? Sum 41?
And that's after a 45 year history of the genre. Not a good look.
>t grunge faggot
lol seriously, don't you belong in the comments section of vh1.com?
>name a worse genre/fanbase than punk
Metal
why are punks always so fragile?
one of the best comps ever
youtu.be
Every time I go shopping for music in 2nd hand stores there are so many goddamn sum41 albums just sitting there never getting sold.
You know the supply has been picked over when you get to the S's and there's just this block of sum41
I don't think I've even heard a sum41 song.
I'm not a big grunge fan, I just think Nirvana's more legit than Green Day. Not a hard thing to argue.
Also, cute that you'd point 90s alt rock to vh1, while you yourself are advocating for Metallica's Black album
Don't get me wrong, Kill Em All is a great album, but who listens to the black album anymore? Do you really need Enter Sandman?
basically they have no sense of humor
Nobody talks about Good Charlotte or Sum 41 anymore. It's like your idea of punk hasn't moved on since the early 2000s. Also nice to know your knowledge of music comes from what's available at Walmart.
Lmao check out he big brain on Brad! If they're in second hand stores it means not only did they sell once but they're being sold a second time, hence thee term ""second hand".
The whole thing cracked open as shit for me when I realized all these ‘Smart’ fags with ‘intelligent’ political and philosophical shit was coming from burnouts with no education or even literary or historical knowledge.
Yikes. I do listen t Bad Relfiom still tjogfb
>everyone who disagrees with me is a redneckkkkk
>not like me even though I'm probably rural as fuck, but I'm not a redddneckkk I'm trying to soo hard to let everyone knowwwww
I wasn't accusing you of being a redneck, I'm accusing you of judging what's relevant based on popularity, which is a ridiculous standard.
Also, I'm not from a rural area, but there's nothing wrong with being rural, and I find your contempt for rural people reprehensible. Walmart is trash culture, not rural culture.
>lol this product turned into complete garbage
>it literally held 0% of its value
>no one's collecting it at all! you can't give it away!
I used to shove punks into lockers in high school. Now I make them clean the toilets in my store and make them squirm by hinting at upcoming drug random drug tests with termination if they fail.
No you and your big brain were right the first time, Sum 41 never sold any albums!
>judging what's relevant based on popularity, which is a ridiculous standard.
Right. Because when no one gives a shit it makes the music that much more relevant, correct?
Nice job getting up to management after a decade at the gas station, bubba
I assume you like black album-era Metallica, Linkin Park, and Quiet Riot more than Celtic Frost, Morbid Angel, and Sepultura because of their inferior album sales, then?
based tbqh
yeah punk was alright when it was actually anti-system but your average "Punk" now holds the same opinions as the Google HR department
Why don't you want to answer the question?
Are you really too low-IQ to understand the point of my response?
Think really fucking hard, Bud
That's still not an answer. What's the issue?
Punk is surprisingly well aligned with Jews and the DNC for being rebels
shit tier taste
The issue is that you're autistic, and can't understand nuance. The answer to your question is in the subtext of my post. This isn't hard.
Jesus fuck you people are imbecils.
only and get it.
t. lived in a squat for a year and a half.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MUSIC.
It's about the people. Something which you NEETs don't know shit about.
And now you turned the thread into a discussion on popularity of shit pop (punk).
And you mock punks for being ignorant.
Kek
>support for human rights
>anti-exploitation
>for personal freedom
Yep, as a leftist Jew, I'd say punk generally has decent values.
The fact you're a junkie doesn't make you an authority
You're still avoiding answering? Why?
would it be better for them to turn coats? then you faggots would pick on them because "they have no true beliefs"
punk is pretty embarrassing to be really into past your teenage years
>as a leftist Jew
there it is
OK mr mature grown up man
nothing to do with being a junkie. I mostly sold/gave hard drugs to girls who were with us so they'd fuck better. Binged on speed a couple times, barely drank. smoked weed once a week. Most of us in the squat had jobs too.
im just saying that it's embarassing now. you can't be scathing and rebellious when you're actually echoing the system
>exploits Palestinians and whites
>persecutes Muslims and Christians
>for heavy fender alignment government crackdowns on any views right of Hillary
you don't know real punks.
>real punk has never been tried
Oh my goodness, where have we heard this one before?
why the fuck are people talking about green day
britpop/power pop is clearly the best form of alt-rock with pop sensibilities
>He thinks neolibs are punk
I’m just going to post some good punk albums as my counter argument
punk sucks. yes SUCKS. bad music made by imbeciles