Is Slayer thrash or death?

is Slayer thrash or death?

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Death rash

thrash
inb4 trash

>is one of the Big Four of Thrash a thrash band?
Yeah, it's a real stumper.

Somewhere in the middle honestly.

Just like Alice In Chains is commonly grouped with grunge bands but they were straight up metal.

Slayer is on a different level of hardness, riffing, vocals. Wouldn’t outright call them death metal but I also wouldn’t say they are like Metallica or anthrax in any way but tempo.

Early slayer was first wave black metal.

Kill Again is VERY deathmetal instrumentally. The whole slayer catalogue is important for death metal but especially Hell Awaits and every midtempo Hannemann riff

Kill again totally, and also necrophiliac. Hell awaits is a death metal record with black metal vocals and production. Really interesting

they're shit

Would you say they resemble bands like Demolition Hammer, Morbid Saint, Sepultura, Sodom, Destruction, Kreator, Dark Angel, or Sadus?

light thrash, also very good

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I don’t listen to any of those bands so I couldn’t tell ya

It's trash that bores me to death

Oops, read too fast.
Except sepultura

Now that you mention it, sep can sound exactly like slayer at times. Up to chaos A.D.

Grunge is not a genre.

Yes it is.

What’s with this new contrarian meme I’ve seen this twice now in the past week.

Punk? Metal? Hard rock? Doom pop-rock?
Grunge.

>Yes it is.
No, it's not.

Slayer is a thrash metal band. Not a death metal band.

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So elaborate.

Is show no mercy thrash? What about diabolus and god hates us all?

South from heaven? You call the title track “thrash”?

Yes. This is what death thrash sounds like.
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What the fuck is that ABOMINATION
the snack is fine

Because artists labelled 'grunge' have no sort of unifying themes throughout their music. Take the three most popular bands:
>Nirvana was mostly inspired by punk, noise, and alternative rock bands of the 80s like Sonic Youth and Pixies
>Soundgarden was mostly inspired by hard rock bands of the 70s, particularly Led Zeppelin
>Alice in Chains were an alternative metal band
There is no underlying theme that connects them all musically. 'Grunge' is more of a fashion statement than anything.

Hair metal

All classic Slayer is thrash metal

Diabolus onward, elements of groove metal and nu-metal infected their sound

The “sound” of grunge has along since been defined.

Read a book or watch a documentary.
Nirvana Alice soundgarden Pearl Jam mudhoney smashing pumpkins they all sound alike with minor influence differences. Minor.
Facelift, bleach, louder than love, etc

Show no mercy if definitely not thrash metal it’s like a venom and Iron Maiden tribute. Doesn’t sound anything like ride the lightning or peace sells

Hell awaits has straight up death metal riffs, play hell awaits in D standard and grunt instead of bark out the lyrics, slightly slow the drums and BAM you got yourself a cannibal corpse record

You're telling me that these all sound the same?
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>Hell awaits has straight up death metal riffs

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Slayer 1983-1990 is 100% thrash metal. Although Show No Mercy has very strong speed metal/NWOBHM influences (keep in mind that term "thrash metal" didn't existed yet in 1983 and Slayer was labeled back then as power metal because it was simply more powerful than heavy metal. Riffing on Hell Awaits were foundation of death metal but to me it's still thrash.
To some extent, yes, but overall most of these play in different style. Slayer without a doubt had influenced these bands. Sepultura might be the closest musically of all these. Especially Schizophrenia album, look how similar first riff in Rest in Pain and the slower riff in Angel of Death sound.

Adding onto your point, Show No Mercy and Hell Awaits got labelled literally everything back in the day. Fanzine reviews were calling it everything from death metal, black metal, power metal, speed metal, etc.
Genre terms weren't really solidified until the late 80s/early 90s. Record labels used all sorts of names to advertise their bands. Destruction got called power metal every now and then back then. The liner notes for Voivod's War and Pain say the album is dedicated to "black metal and power metal fans everywhere".
The Teutonic bands were straight up inspired by Slayer. You can see everyone from Mille Petrozza to Chris Witchhunter wearing Slatanic Werhmacht shirts in old band photos. Same goes for Sepultura, since they were getting imports of Slayer records along with the teutonic bands plus Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer/Celtic Frost, and Voivod. Dark Angel were friends with Slayer since they were both Bay Area thrash bands.

nothing worse than thrash elitists who shit all over Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, etc...

Personally, I consider the Big 4 of thrash to be Sepultura, Sodom, Kreator, and Sadus.

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I only shit on Slayer for being inept musicians

This.

slayer is literally an autist banging two trashcan lids together, a fat virgin divebombing for 4 minutes, ian macshane yelling about nazis being cute and then based gary holt

It literally isn't.

prove me wrong

For starters, there isn't a single Slayer song that has trashcans in them.

Not him but
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what a tourist tier post
oh no no no

>t. boomer faggots with soul patches and a USMC tattoo

The tourist is strong in you.

Slayer might not be better than Megadeth but at least Slayer is better than "noise rock"

This would be a better example.
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all slayer is awful because thrash is a non-genre

You can’t tell a thrash riff from a death metal riff?

You think a blaze in the northern sky is trve black metal then?

Reminder that death metal existed in 1984. That's the earliest indisputable concrete date for death metal. It can't be argued. You could argue that it existed a year earlier in 1983 depending on your definition of death metal. Slayer had very little to do with the development of the genre. Venom was more influential.

Blaze is blackened death metal.
Simple as.

Thrash isn’t my genre. I only like 3 metallica albums, 5 megadeth albums, one xentrix album and all slayer albums. 4 sepultura albums.

Reminder that Leprosy is the first true, undeniably pure death metal album and that all other 'death metal' albums before that had tons of thrash influence.

Agreed

What makes Leprosy more pure than Scream Bloody Gore? Those albums are very similar.

I can tell no difference between scream bloody gore and leprosy

SBG is thrashier than Leprosy and doesn't have the same R I F F driven approach that would define DM.

Compare
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Why didn't you pick a heavier track from SBG? Zombie Ritual is one of the softer/catchier tracks.
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That’s the slowest song on leprosy I’m done with your cherry picks man. Just done. Literally can’t even right now

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I'm an idiot. I meant to post Mutilation. Ignore the link on my other post.
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This is still thrashy, particularly that part that starts at 1:20.

This is also still really thrashy.
Meanwhile on Leprosy, you had stuff like this, which would define the DM template.
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Well, yes, the term "death metal" did exist back then but it's completely different musically than the death metal few years later. What said about genre labeling.
Saying that Slayer had very little to do with the development of death metal genre is completely retarded though when you can obviously hear it. Venom was in fact more influential but to thrash metal and black metal.

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>AM I AUSTIC OR AUTIST

>xentrix
Pretty based.
This.

They're probably referring to Possessed, who back then was very much a Venom rip off

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Listen to jar of flies and delete this post

I wasn't talking about that compilation. I was talking about the fact that Death released a demo called "Death By Metal" which contained several songs from Scream Bloody Gore, and Possessed released a demo called "Death Metal" which contained the song "Death Metal" in 1984. You can't say that Death is the first death metal band or Scream Bloody Gore was the first death metal album, and then ignore their 1984 demo that contained the same fucking songs.
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Fun fact: The guitarist of Possessed is also the guitarist of Primus.

We've already established that Leprosy was the first DM album.

We didn't establish shit. You said that and nobody agreed with you.

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If Death and Possessed were playing faster and heavier metal than any thrash band around in 1984, with screamed/growled vocals and lyrics about gore, and they named their demos "Death Metal" before there was a name for that kind of music, then it was fucking death metal.