So I finally sat down and listened to this after seeing the insane amount of hate it got from Yas Forums...

let me rephrase that more concisely for you OP
it's fucking trash

It's what Lorde and Lana sound like to people that don't like either

>cut All the Good Girls Go to Hell, Wish You Were Gay, 8, and I Love You
>add When I Was Older
Album immediately goes from a 4/10 to an 8/10.

I hate it
I hate her
I hate her fans

I listened to "bad guy" last night, having heard a few seconds of it by accident a few weeks ago and thinking it sounded okay. Up until then, I'd been successfully avoiding her.

"bad guy" is the most unremarkable load of shit imaginable. I can't understand how they managed to sell her to people. The bassline on the chorus has a Latin change in it which kills the momentum, wilfully shit synths are, in practice, indistinguishable for unintentionally shit ones, and her vocal style is so obviously going for loli appeal that her baggy layers image is a very canny move - you want your male audience to have plausible deniability.

This doesn't get an insane amount of hate though, Yas Forums is fapping over bully eyelash daily
Grimes is an artist that gets too much hate here

indistinguishable *from

it's made by a zoomer for zoomers
that honestly is all there is to it

I hate the hype around her moreso than I hate her.

>"billie is deconstructing the very essence of pop music"
>"billie is upstaging the entire pop establishment"
>"billie is bringing the corporate bosses of the music industry to their knees"
>"billie is so wise beyond her years, she actually cares about the state of humanity unlike 99% of other pop stars"
If this doesn't scream "revolution for sale", I don't know what does. Herbert Marcuse would have a field day going after this girl if he were still alive.

See that's the thing, I'm OP and I'm 20 (a zoomer) and I what baffles me the most is most of the praise seems to come from boomers like Fantano, Scaruffi, Thom Yorke, hell even fucking Michael Gira. That's what I don't get.

She's the kind of girl they'd like for a daughter.

Holy fuck that's actually an impressive feat.

one with fat tits and jungle fever?

gentrified trap

wouldn't be surprised if this was true.
pedophilia and white guilt are the two most common traits among affluent white boomers

Not going to lie, that's the other thing about her which makes me highly suspicious. She styles herself as anti-establishment yet the entire pop music establishment loves her and has done nothing but shower her and her brother with praise since 2018 (maybe even earlier). If her bedroom pop success is somehow "threatening" to the music industry, why is that same music industry so quick to hand her five Grammy awards and a slew of praise and promotion? Really makes you think.

Correct.

thetransmetropolitanreview.wordpress.com/2020/01/07/the-miraculous-north-east-militia/

really? I thought it was brilliant. it really captures how teenagers are sociopaths in a very unique way for mainstream pop. also the song has hooks for days. the killer baseline, the finger snaps, the synths, the delivery. it's a shame that the rest of the album felt trite and boring
also what the fuck are you on about with that nonsense about loli appeal?

>hooks for days.
Incorrect.

>loli appeal
The breathy, stumbly little girl thing. Why are you pretending not to get it, you nonce?

if she was my daughter i'd still be bathing her

And what's upsetting is how her newer stuff is very muted and dull. Songs like Xanny, You Should See Me in a Crow, When I Was Older, Bury a Friend, ilomilo, Listen Before I Go, etc. all have dark production which keeps them interesting. Her newer shit she's been releasing is just plain boring and lacks that edge entirely. It's like now that she has her awards she and her bro want to appeal to the adult contemporary crowd.

Everytime I hear her music, I just think of how big of an influence James Blake's first album was for 2010s music.

>Really makes you think
it really doesn't, we've been seeing this kind of shit for decades now. idk if billie is the first rising "alternative" pop star you witness getting big but we've been through this over and over again
the only distinguo is wether or not the music is good. for me it's passable at best aside for bad guy which ended up suffering from overplay

you can't tell me when i was older isn't one of the best pop tracks of the last 25 years

>if she was my daughter I...
>what would you do daddy?

When I Was Older, Crown, and Xanny are her best songs, and they received ZERO radio play.

I honestly don't remember it so I guess it's not, for me at least. what is so great about it?

not today champ, daddy's tired from working all day

I don't think I've seen a single pop star - alternative or not - receive anything close to as much praise as she has. Granted, I'm 31 years old and remember back in the early 2000s when Jennifer Lopez was shilled to death on MTV and VH1 (not to mention the tabloid press) despite not even singing on her own songs. But even then, JLo wasn't praised for being someone "bringing the entire pop establishment to its knees" or some bullshit the way Billie is.

the production, the vocal melody, her vocals, and fits nicely on the soundtrack it was written for, listen to it and you'll probably agree

true it's a bit weird that narrative of her being "counter cultural" or whatever standing up to the establishment when they're pushing her HARD. probably just style and all that. i hear nothing groundbreaking musically.

sure, but doesn't mean it's a good thing.

youtube.com/watch?v=0I4fD49Gbck

It has the edgy trap sound which makes her stuff interesting. She should have included it on her album.

it's an irrelevant thing. at worse you are going to be annoyed by gullible people buying into her hype, but then again those are most likely going to be teenage girls and it's perfectly fine for them to be dumb and naive and honestly people tend to give to much shit to little girls for what they like it feels like bullying

How so?

I'm on the far-left politically, so I can smell every time the establishment is trying to throw the public decoys, which Billie seems to be.

Gira was very obviously paid

you shouldn't need 'filtered' explained to you

You shouldn't throw "filtered" around without context.

Wish You Were Gay, 8, and I Love You sounded like they belonged on her first EP.

wow user you are so sharp. the man is never going to get you

Anthony?

he was filtered by queen billie's ethereal breathiness, he couldn't take the ASMR quality of it because he's a cuck

>tfw not patrician enough to handle breathing

all fucking shills must fucking hang

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Sarcasm aside, always be weary every time the person infecting you with the disease claims to be handing you the cure.

Be wary of what? Jewish conspiracies trying to keep the youth complacent by feeding them faux rebellion? Because to me the explanation of the phenomenon seems much simpler. SoundCloud rap, a spontaneous phenomenon, made a certain aesthetic glamorous and cool to zoomers and the music industry which is in the constant pursuit of money is using her to tap into that niche market of alt teenage girls that are not swayed by the likes of ariana or Taylor
For what I learned about her I don't think she was created from the ground up as an industry plant. I think the labels have long lost the pulse of the youth and are just playing catching up with whatever viral shit zoomers decide to make the next big thing

Not Jewish conspiracies, idiot. I'm talking about capitalism and the way the same capitalist bosses who enabled a culture of sludge to emerge are the same ones pushing a teen girl who is supposed to be the complete opposite of that.

And? Capitalism merely cares about going after profits, so it will invest in people that will make money for them.
Again the only people that may buy into this are very young and gullible people, and I will still prefer that teenage girls look up to an edgier, more rebellious role model rather than the more vapid and materialistic pop stars.
No kid that listened to green day ever fought against the establishment, but some that listened to green day may have gone on to listening to crass and other militant artists
It's just pop music dumbass

So what incentive does the mass media have to portray Shillie as some kind of deeply intellectual wise-woman if she could just as easily be marketed without doing so?

I'm assuming you weren't alive in the 90s and don't remember how heavily Nirvana and grunge were pushed.

Diversifying their portfolio. A growing part of the zoomer market want edge and SoundCloud rap vibes and aesthetics? Then they'll give them that
Young people never had so much control over mainstream music. Viral meme hits can obliterate the charts for months on end, success is measured by streams rather than by sales, and the industry can barely keep up with it and are better off just taking a mildly popular rando off the street and sign him up and invest in marketing for it, rather than constructing an idol from the ground up like in the Elvis and Beatles day
It's not like we have a shortage of conventional female pop stars that capture the rest of the market anyway