Why were they so hated at the time? Most of their political lyrics still stand up...

Why were they so hated at the time? Most of their political lyrics still stand up, their concerts rocked and they're really cool guys. Serj Tankian especially. Their albums showed a respectable amount of work and evolution between them.
What does Yas Forums think?
(inb4 syndrome jokes)

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They were never hated, retard.

Well, maybe not Bieber-hated but they were chucked in the same.bin as Slipknot's and Korn. Even when the three sound nothing alike. I don't want to insult or exaggerate but they were musically like Velvet Underground or The Fugs for their time/genre

>why is a numetal band being associated with other numetal bands

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SOAD is literally not numetal. It's alt metal.

nothing wrong with early Slipknot or Korn

Nu Metal is a stupid production brand. Like goth rock for post punk and new wave. SOAD mixes metal with a lot of tunes, try their first album and then Toxicity, compare the sound and lyrics.

They are their own genre, like when people call The Doors psychedelic when they are more of a mixed bag of everything and blues rock

I've nothing against them, I'm just saying they have nothing in common with Sys.
The one I can't stand is limp bizkit. That's shit

Let's not get into a discussion about what is and isn't nu metal, SOAD and Slipknot were definitely peers and Slipknot wasn't particularly "hated" either

>doesn't like Limp Bizkit
Get a load of this guy

lead singer sounds like a faggot

No discussion here, mate. It's ole rockers who can't stand SOAD being metal without calling it shit or just saying "They're numet and that's not metal"

Serj Tankian? Explain how please, he has a wide vocal range and the way he can change his tone in one song is admirable. And I know non fans who agree.

SOAD is liked by everyone in the real world and almost everyone on the internet except for kvlt black metal fags on /meal/ and pseuds.

Did they ever actually make any songs about Armenia?
That would be some based shit

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Several, P.L.U.C.K. for one

It's one of their best songs
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pluck, holy mountains

Because they're terrible and the hate was warranted. Dont let the neo-Yas Forums numetal listening plebs convince you otherwise.

Yeah, I had some cases of people liking it and then feeling shook up when I told them it's SOAD. I mean, metalheads are master gatekeepers but SOAD at least sounds different than the br00tal shit they hear
PLUCK on their debut about the genocide and Holy Mountains. Many of their songs tackle the "propagators of the genocide" and they've performed at Yerevan on the 100th anniversary

For once, they sound better than the shitty power metal from Sweden/Finland and most USA trash brutal bands

Serj did some songs in Armenian on his solo career and he and his grandpa (a survivor) were interviewed in Screamers, a doc on genocides

"I had an out of body experience the other day, her name was Jesus.
And for her
Everyone cried
Everyone cried
Everyone cried

I wanna FUCK my way to the garden, 'cause everyone.
Needs.
A mother.
FUCKER!."
Man, the first album lyrics were a thing

WE DON'T NEED TO MULTIPLY WE DON'T NEED TO MULTIPLY WE DON'T NEED TO MULTIPLY WE DON'T NEED TO MULTIPLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

hearing toxicity on vinyl is life changing

WIRED WERE THE EYES OF A THE HORSE AND THE JET PILOT, ONE THAT SMILED WHEN HE FLEW OVER THE BAY!

A little boy smiled it’ll all be well THE LITTLE BOY SMILED IT’LL ALL BE WELL

PUSHING LITTLE CHILDREN!
WITH THEIR FULLY AUTOMATICS!
RHEY LIKE TO PUSH THE WEAK AROUND!

Tbh, I like Steal This Album a bit more.

Deer Dance is the best song in the album

it has better individual songs but toxicity is much stronger as a package

**Forest

absolutely chilling track. one of those songs you hear as a youngster then revisit it as an adult only to have your mind blown

I remember hearing DD as I watched the riots in Chile... SOAD lyrics are timeless


POGOPOGOPOGOPOGOPOGO!!!

unironically their albums have more avant-garde vibes than numetal's

STA is more like an expansion pack,.I enjoy both the same, like Hypnotize/Mesmerise

Well I think of songs like "Know" "Aerials" and "she's like heroin" and they sound like something out of John Cale/Lou Reed's minds :3

Serj is so fucking weak live nowadays.
Other than that, their first 3 albums are great. last two werent as good to me

For me, IEAIAIO is their best song easily, but for me again, the rest of Steal This Album is kind of weak compared to the mighty Tox.

Well, he's getting old and he knows it. His solo career is still awesome, but he knows he's not the twenty something coked up singer and he moved on. That's more than I can say about my favorite musicians... The last two albums were more Malakian's work, they just were different. Tentative and Attack are still amazing works...

he's been weak live since something like 2009. Still kinda sucks

Chic N Stu, Bubbles, Nüguns, A.D.D., Mr. Jack, Ego Brain, Highway Song, and Pictures are such bangers tho

STA were reworked demos that didn't make it into Tox. ADD is still a favorite of mine as is Mr Jack

This literally never happened. Utter bullshit revisionism from someone who wasn't even fucking conceived when this album came out. God I fucking hate this board. "I spent 20 minutes reading this band's wikipedia page and some RYM reviews and I now have complete understanding of their reception!" Fuck off. SOAD were never ''''''''''chucked in the same bin as Slipknot and Korn''''''''' go rape yourself with this Orwellian bullshit.

>SOAD were never ''''''''''chucked in the same bin as Slipknot and Korn''''''

they were most certainly thought of as being part of the nu metal scene.
limp bizkit et al

would-be good band, but serj was and still is a fucking annoying vocalist
all the bad bits of mike patton without any of the good to balance it out

cringe, Serj is an amazing vocalist, literally what makes the band stand out

no. my friends (class of '05) were punks and skaters and played in garage bands and a lot still do- none of us would've been caught DEAD listening to Slipknot or Limp Bizkit but Toxicity and Steal This Album got played a good bit. I don't remember anyone culturally relevant putting SoaD in that group at all. Limp Bizkit was already an embarrassment when everyone was yelling gibberish to Chop Suey for the first time.

Slipknot I think is lumped with nu metal and a lot of those bands because of timing desu and probably would have happened regardless of whatever pop music context they were formed under.

Google agrees with me

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i hope the based armenians tore these azeri faggots to shreds

the question isn't whether the consensus 20 years after the fact is that they were nu metal- I don't contest that in hindsight it makes sense- but the point is that they weren't viewed culturally in the same company as bands like Limp Bizkit and Slipknot or even Coal Chamber and Orgy and all the other cringey bands no one ever mentions. Those bands weren't cool and as far as I saw- only alternative rock stations, edgelord mall goths and their fat/anorexic girlfriends, and stereotypical "Kyle" type dudes listened to those bands. You would hear Needles and Chop Suey at the skatepark, not fucking "Rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin" lol.

>Those bands weren't cool and as far as I saw- only alternative rock stations, edgelord mall goths and their fat/anorexic girlfriends, and stereotypical "Kyle" type dudes listened to those bands.

soad eventually became that
all the other bands were cool when they first came out too

They never topped their first album.

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>I'm now old enough to see zoomers misinterpret and come up with false narrative about how my favorite band when I was a late teen was received
I hope coronavirus takes me away soon. The world may belong to these tards but I sure as hell want to check out asap if that's the case

This. Everyone loved SOAD. They weren't even really in the same era of popularity as Korn/LB, whose popularity had already waned by 03-05 when SOAD were really loved.

SoAd is just as old as Korn and Limp Bizkit.
They toured with nu metal bands in that era.
Sure their popularity came later but they came out of that same scene as the big nu metal bands did.
Thats why people connect them to it.

they weren’t hated you zoomer fucktard.
everybody loved them.

Three Dollar Bill Y’all$ is a classic and you can fuck right off if you disagree

Relax grandpa, you might have a stroke...

DONT YOU
REALIZE
THAT EVIL
LIVES IN THE MOTHERFUCKIN SKIN

WE WILL FIGHT THE HEATHENS
WE WILL FIGHT THE HEATHENS

OP Here,
Thanks for the comments and all.
Yeah, SOAD is placed along with NuMetal bands but they remind me more of Soundgarden (Serj was a close friend of CC) and RATM (Again, Serj worked with Morello)

I think they're their own genre...

this
all of their albums were good, but they never topped that first album

we need a final solution for the zoomer question, lads.

LIFE
THREATENING
Lifestyles.

A hitman
A nun
Lovers

Arise as did the god Ninti
AND ISHKAR, MOTHERFUCKER!

I'd say it's on the raw sound. The lyrics and composition in Toxicity are awesome still. Besides I like the absurd Chic n Stu and Vicinity of Obscenity

By the time you get to that, boomer, make sure to stock up on your shitty Monster Energy drinks. I think your wife is calling, go on and get a pension or something...

Literally everything in this post is false. And their first album my my favourite of all time

They owe Mike Patton a big debt. Essentially took his gen X kooky alt-metal schtick and marketed it to millenials. Still a good band though.