>guitar 'solos' of epileptic seizures >proto-punk/experimental my ass >just low budget, low skill psychedelic indie folk >songs by one of God's Chosen singing about heroin and how much he loves tranny prostitutes performing CBT >no one gave a shit at the time >only 40+ years later people claim this was somehow miraculously influential >The Doors came out earlier same year, also weird, similar lyrical topics, way better
>In b4 filtered, bite my ass and bring an actual defense if you think I'm wrong >pro-tip, I'm not
Man, I just don't get it. I still have White\White Heat as well as Loaded on my list to burn through, so I'm hoping that their sound is more refined with more direction. Cause this one was just painful to sit through. The track 'Heroin' was alright, but that was about it
Samuel Hughes
>doorsfag >shit opinion every time
Alexander Lewis
loaded would be the most refined of their albums while banana being experiential, white\white heat is the most energetic of their albums
Nicholas Myers
>non-argument >doesn't give counter examples of what they like every time
Adrian Thomas
You failed to consider one thing: The Velvet Underground And Nico (1967), recorded in the spring of 1966, includes an impressive number of masterpieces (mostly penned by Lou Reed and John Cale, and sung by Nico): the cold, spectral, autumnal odes of Femme Fatale, All Tomorrow's Parties and Black Angel's Death Song, the percussive boogie of Waiting For My Man, the orgasmic chaos of Heroin, the dissonant tribal music of European Son, the Indian raga imbued with decadent spleen of Venus In Furs. They are immersed in the dark, oppressive atmosphere of German expressionism and French existentialism, but they also exhaled an epic libido: each song was a sexual fetish, and a cathartic sadomaso release. It was difficult to find a precedent for the Velvet Underground's music, because these barbarians were educated to the classical lieder and to LaMonte Young's minimalism, while they borrowed very little from rock'n'roll and pop music.
Samuel Gomez
I just want to know, and be honest with me, user; Did you actually type that out of is that some obscure copy pasta I haven't seen?
Alexander Peterson
this. i dont think its bad, i enjoy some of the songs but its just so...unimpactful. Low-energy might be a better word. It didnt really leave an impression at all. I got the impression that they didnt really care. Besides that i dont remember much except the first track which i think is decent, and i listened to it a couple times.
My choice would be anything by radiohead. I actually really like the lyrics and some of the ideas behind radiohead, but i just cant stand listening to it. I had their best of album when i was a kid and the only song i thought was even a 7/10 was paranoid android. I honestly though they were considered one of those bands thats super popular with maybe 1 or 2 good albumbs but most of the stuff they release is mediocre
I like OK Computer, I just like their other stuff more. OK Computer makes me sleepy, desu. I think Radiohead is good, I just can't listen to them regularly. I can't say any of their songs are any of my favorite songs, you know?
Joseph Walker
TVU is the ultimate reverse pleb filter. usually people who don't have their own taste and only drone what others say praise this album. It's not a terrible album, but if you cant tell the difference between "amazing for its time"/"impactful" and "good" you are stupid fucking moron. if you think TVU and Nico is more than 8 you are a fucking cunt with no opinion
Chase Parker
Got it, thanks fren. Now I know it's an ungodly pretentious art house style blog to avoid like the plague.
Easton Young
You didn't make a single criticism, you just made a bunch of comparative statements and never developed anything
Kevin Hall
This is your brain on rym.
Christopher Martinez
>this new come back when you can sit through VU&N kid
Jayden Miller
I'm here since 2011 and i can't stand Lou Reed.
Aiden Edwards
>proto-punk/experimental my ass It's an acquired taste >proto-punk/experimental my ass objectively wrong >just low budget, low skill psychedelic indie folk Indie wasn't a thing in the 60s lol. You shouldn't need a lot of money to make good art. >songs by one of God's Chosen singing about heroin and how much he loves tranny prostitutes performing CBT based >no one gave a shit at the time And?? This also isn't true >only 40+ years later people claim this was somehow miraculously influential Try 20 years. And it was insanely influential >The Doors came out earlier same year Not comparable at all.
Gavin Taylor
Yes, the entire album is not very good. Also have to say that Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys is a bit overrated as a whole, although there are some songs that are really good.
Jace Lopez
I literally just did, user, hence why I made the thread. And guess what? It's overhyped trash.
Wyatt Wright
>proto-punk/experimental my ass It's an acquired taste >proto-punk/experimental my ass objectively wrong >proto-punk/experimental my ass Indie wasn't a thing in the 60s lol. You shouldn't need a lot of money to make good art. >proto-punk/experimental my ass based >proto-punk/experimental my ass And?? This also isn't true >proto-punk/experimental my ass Try 20 years. And it was insanely influential >proto-punk/experimental my ass Not comparable at all.
Nathaniel Lewis
Nice. Thanks for the double bump, Shlomo. Enjoy your Lou Reed.
>>no one gave a shit at the time >>only 40+ years later people claim this was somehow miraculously influential Objectively incorrect. It was an immediate influence for artists like Bowie and The Stooges, and thus the whole glam era. Also a major influence of post-punk bands such as Joy Division, The Fall and The Smiths, and then later bands like The Strokes. To say people only started rating it 40+ years later shows how musically ignorant you are.
Jaxson Jackson
Gotta source that isn't wikipedia? I fail to see how a commercial failure somehow influenced music in completely different genres. Perhaps the band got better later, but I still need to work through their other shit Maybe Velvet Underground's later albums influenced all that shit you mentioned, but it sure as hell wasn't this garbage of an album. Sorry for your shit taste, user. Let me know if you want to know what good music sounds like. I'll point you in the right direction. I'm friendly like that.
>Let me know if you want to know what good music sounds like. I'll point you in the right direction. Oh, please do, you delightful little autist. Show us some good music.
Lol, the debut is overrated but on the whole I'd give it a solid 6/10. If you thought the debut was painful, you'll find White Light/White Heat fucking torture. That album contains the track "Sister Ray," which features Reed warbling "she's busy sucking on my ding-dong!" for a full 17 minutes while his fellow downies bash out the most unimaginative 3 chord progression.
The only defense for such crap is that it was edgy in the sixties.
No one even listened to it, how could it influence people
Gavin Garcia
no one would care if this came out 20 years later, but it didn't
Dylan Lopez
I've been binge listening to late 60's/early 70's music since hiding in my pillow fort full of cans of beenz and deenz without taking my gas mask off since early February.
And TVU&N stands out as being the shittiest one. I'm sorry, user.
Michael Ramirez
As Eno sad: >My reputation is far bigger than my sales. I was talking to Lou Reed the other day, and he said that the first Velvet Underground record sold only 30,000 copies in its first five years. Yet, that was an enormously important record for so many people. I think everyone who bought one of those 30,000 copies started a band! So I console myself in thinking that some things generate their rewards in second-hand ways.
Logan Ramirez
this. I am not surprized its so liked here cause nobody knows shi about music and just say they like something because reddit trends say it's good
Jonathan Rodriguez
>I think everyone who bought one of those 30,000 copies started a band! I'm gonna need some proof on that. Show me an extensive list of the 30,000 new bands
Noah Nelson
based retard
Asher Sanchez
same with every other 60s album
Austin Thomas
you said people were not influenced by TVU&N. Im just proving youre wrong.
Ian Morgan
> Tranny's Not this album try harder fagstack
Blake Ramirez
This one nigger I know down the street said: >Velvet Underground inspired zero bands, and is only liked by pretentious art house honkies, familam. Mup da doo didda po mo gub dat tum muhfugen bix nood cof bin dub ho muhfugga. You know what I'm sayin' G?
>I think everyone who bought one of those 30,000 copies started a band! Okay, I'll concede. TVU did inspire other downies to form punk bands in the late 70s, most of which were forgotten by the 80s.
We are all randos, user. All equally worthless, regardless of back catalogue.
Joshua Powell
Artists that site The Velvet Underground as an influence such as David Bowie, Talking Heads, Joy Division, New Order, The Fall, Pixies, The Stooges, Morrissey, Brian Eno, My Bloody Valentine, The Strokes, Sex Pistols, Sonic Youth, Nick Cave, Can and The Modern Lovers are hardly downies that are forgotten.
Ryder Campbell
But did they influence any GOOD bands is what I'm trying to figure out.
Benjamin Perry
Who are your top 10 bands?
Jackson Johnson
Hue hue hue
Eli Morales
It was pretty funny, I thought
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