The instrumentals are impressive, but the lyrics are absolutely mind numbing. Just the usual I fuck bitches/have loads of money/shoot guns/drive expensive cars/wear loads of bling shit.
It's really dull. No interesting storytelling, no clever or interesting rhymes, and completely unoriginal.
Why do people praise trap rappers like Lil Uzi Vert as if they are dynamic, interesting artists when they are anything but?
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STFU white man.
Uzi has good delivery, melodies, and beat selection. No one has ever said his lyrics are anything better than "brag raps that are kinda fun to sing in your head while you're washing dishes."
Don't listen to it for lyrics, listen to it for the music.
>but the lyrics
Stopped reading right there.
>Don't listen to it for lyrics
It's rap music. Lyrics should be a pretty key element.
>A typical Lil Uzi Vert song boils down to a few core topics: the millions in his bank account, the cars an average person wouldn’t know how to start, jewelry that wouldn’t shine on anyone else, clothing brands that most can’t pronounce, and girls who would never bat an eyelash at someone other than Uzi.
this is a POSITIVE review. the album has several redeeming moments but it's not anything new or interesting enough to forgive its MAJOR downfalls
Exactly. It's rap music. The idea that rap music can be good without having decent lyrics is completely illogical. Nothing is more important in rap music than the lyrics. Even if you don't a great delivery, if you have good lyrics you're still OK (case in point: Original Pirate Material).
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Except Uzi's music is nothing like the "rap music" of the previous decades and like 75% doesn't even contain rapping.
I think anything can be good without having decent lyrics as long as the other components are good enough to compensate e.g. Die Lit, much of Led Zeppelin, etc
the emo crooning are the worst parts of the album
>the emo crooning are the worst parts of the album
Cringe, crooning Uzi is peak Uzi
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Did we listen to the same album? When I listen to it there seems to be a lot of musical, rhyming vocal delivery all over the album that I believe constitutes "rap". Why would I not want that content to be high quality?
Also, although the instrumentals are OK, the drums are always incredibly generic and derivative.
Led Zeppelin aren't a rap band.
At least Die Lit feels unusual and original. But he is still a shit rapper.
The first third of the album (which is by far considered to be the worst part) has a lot of straight up rapping
The album only really picks up when he gets into that iconic Uzi singing
You're arguing that the album is good despite an entire third of it being shit?
Also it's not true. There is lots of rapping throughout the album.
says who? lol anyone trying to box a musical genre with rules is delusional as fuck
It's not shit, it's just the worst part. It has the only real "eh" songs.
Besides that third, there is not a single "pure" rap song on the project. Most of it is melodic rapping or straight up singing.
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If poetry has shit lyrics do you think it can still be good? Rap is literally just musical poetry. Strip everything away and as long as there remains someone rapping, its still rap. Rapping literally just constitutes rhythm and lyrics. Why would someone's rapping be considered good if it was completely terrible in one of these two elements?
>Why would someone's rapping be considered good if it was completely terrible in one of these two elements?
It could sound good.
U said urself...
The instrumentals
Rapping isn't a genre, it's an adjective that describes a type of vocal delivery that incorporates lyrics and rhythm. If someone's rapping fails in the quality of one of those two elements, how can it be considered good? It's like saying a goalie in a football team is good despite the fact he always fails to stop the ball.
>poetry has shit lyrics do you think it can still be good
yes, you need read more poetry
If a rap album would be better an instrumental album, then it has completely failed at being a quality rap album. But not only that, the instrumentals aren't good enough to stand up on their own. The generic, repetitive, poorly mixed, completely unimaginative drumbeats would start to grate pretty quickly.
>it's an adjective that describes a type of vocal delivery that incorporates lyrics and rhythm
And singing typically incorporates lyrics and melody, but lyrics don't have to be great for the singing to be good.
shit comparison, no one judges sports subjectively, we're talking about artistic expression
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its honestly terrible compared to the additional album added to it in the deluxe version a week later
I'm sorry but if the best thing Keats had written was "You know that I gotta keep it real, fuck behind the stores
Yeah, count up a half a mil', I'm behind the store
Yeah, she gone off that molly like she ain't ever take a pill before
You act like you tough like your homie ain't ever get killed before" then don't think he would still be talked about after 200 years.
> singing typically incorporates lyrics and melody
Typically, but it doesn't have to. That's a big difference.
And you would argue Lil Uzi's lyrics are good?
Then why does rapping have to have lyrics?
>then don't think he would still be talked about after 200 years.
who is even talking about longevity? we all know this
stop taking this subgenre so serious
Are people ever gonna go out of the trap phase in like 2023?
Because rapping by definition is composed of words, and how those words are chosen is its main appeal, much like with poetry. Singing is mostly about vocal delivery. If the delivery is poor then the singing is poor. In rapping, if the words are poor then the rapping is poor. It's not interesting or pleasing to listen to.
i'd say for a trap rapper, yeah
I think music that has no longevity has none because it is shit.
>or pleasing to listen to.
Says who?
Uzi just revived his career, and with it probably bought trap a lot more time.
So in other words, you're saying they're shit?
You find his lyrics pleasing to listen to?
you're entitled to your opinion
no, what?
Yeah, decades usually change do they? It's not even Uzi, eventually all trap rappers are going to fade into obscurity 5 years time. Something else would rise up dominating the mainstream. This decade can't be the same as the last decade.
I find it his music pleasing to listen to and his lyrics never detract from that.
Of course.
Whatever comes next will likely have trap influence though, if the current trends are any indication.
But you had to make a concession about the quality of his lyrics. If you have to make a concession when talking about the quality of something, by saying "well, they're good for a x", then what you're talking about is shit. It's like saying "oh yeh I mean he was a good person, for a serial killer at least". "He's good for a trap rapper" still means he's shit.
So his lyrics are just something of no quality that are happening in the music? Should music feature elements that have no quality?
Trap influence as in the same retarded claps, bass, and maybe shitty voice? Hope not
Seven Nation Army is probably one of the most famous songs of all time at this point and its lyrics are literal gibberish. That doesn't detract from the song.
If the appeal of a song isn't the lyrics, it doesn't really matter if the lyrics are nothing special. If I buy a pack of tissues to blow my nose, it doesn't matter what color they are, it matters if they do what I bought them for.
no, I'm saying he's good for a genre that doesn't take lyricism too seriously
way to twist words, user
But the other thing is being "radio friendly" and catering to other audiences that would be appropriate any way. 10 year olds listening to Uzi doesn't seem right.
So he can be a shit rapper because his genre allows for it? He's still shit though.
Seven nation army is a hugely overrated song for that very reason. But rock is not the same as rap, because it's more about the actual music rather than the lyrics, so it still remains a good song.
>because it's more about the actual music
As is hip hop. Why should music not be about the music first and foremost?
i never said he was shit
that's just like your opinion, bro
Lyrics are at the forefront of rap.
Says who?
You just say he doesn't make serious effort with his lyrics and it's ok because that's the genre? By not making a serious effort you mean he is lazy and not interested in quality. Aka, he's shit.
The fact that when you listen to rap what you hear is a stream of words.
When you listen to rock you also hear words. When you listen pop you also hear words.
>You just say he doesn't make serious effort with his lyrics
where did I say that? if anything i said the exact opposite
this amount of conclusion jumping is hilarious, do continue
You'd said the genre doesn't take lyrics seriously. What do you mean by that if not what I said?
And lyrics are extremely important in all music that has them. But rap literally just describes a stream of musically delivered words, so their quality is more essential in rap music than in other forms of music.