Yas Forumsros. Why do i feel indifferent towards everything? Nothing brings me a lot of joy anymore. And stuff that would really make me upset dosent either. Im indifferent to everything and lonely as fuck
Yas Forumsros. Why do i feel indifferent towards everything? Nothing brings me a lot of joy anymore...
How does your girlfriend feel about this?
Dont have one. Ive given up the search for one.
Oh you should go get one. It's not that hard.
Existence is beyond the power of words
To define:
Terms may be used
But are none of them absolute.
In the beginning of heaven and earth there were no words,
Words came out of the womb of matter;
And whether a man dispassionately
Sees to the core of life
Or passionately
Sees the surface,
The core and the surface
Are essentially the same,
Words making them seem different
Only to express appearance.
If name be needed, wonder names them both:
From wonder into wonder
Existence opens.
if you have been super sad for a while you are probably depressed and having trouble letting your guard down
Depression
Don't pull a Kutner. Just look into new stuff and plow through it. We all have to just plow through it. I wish I had a gf too but I won't stop trying. Be funny, learn more. Read books, learn an instrument. Never give up, never give in. You're a human being and that means more than most of us realize. Focus on what you can build and eventually you'll have enough to build anything you want. I love you and good luck.
You're getting old user. It's normal to feel that way.
>You're a human being and that means more than most of us realize.
No it doesn't.
>I love you and good luck.
No you don't.
Based truth speaker. You've earned a (meh)
Don't listen to these faggots, OP. Trying to validate your own existence through a woman won't make you any happier. In fact, it'll fuck you up. Women are shallow creatures. Never fall into a trap of idolizing them.
Thank you guys. Actually made me feel a little better
You know how when a turtle sees a predator it curls into its shell? Well "you" are that turtle and you were scared of connecting with the world during a formative period in case it rejected you. The thing you think of as your self is actually that protective shell you created to keep the world at bay which is fine for that purpose but it's artificial and can never truly be fulfilling.
You're still in the shell, except depending on how long it's been since you saw the light you might have died in there
Stop chasing happiness in life. We've all been brainwashed into chasing happiness. Chasing happiness ironically makes people more miserable.
Fuck that smooth-brain people philosophy. You are your shell. There is no ghost in the shell. The shell grounds you in life. Men live by their shells - their morals, ethics and beliefs. It's women who are all made of emotions changing their shells like a snake changes it's skin. Nothing holy to them. Nothing worth dying for. If you're a man living like that will fuck you up.
>dont listen to these faggots
>don't get a gf
You sound a little conflicted.
I didn't say don't get a gf. Get a gf, by all means, but don't think it'll somehow make your existential dread go away.
When you have a gf, all you'll want are those good old days when you were free to do whatever you want.
When you don't have a gf, all you'll ever want are those good old days when you were not alone.
There is no escape. Stop trying to escape and you'll realize that everything is just as it should be.
A bit crass, as I simply don't want to believe it... every single woman I have ever met, ultimately proves to never be what they advertised, and they all gaslight, sometimes they seem to enjoy if you really end up questioning yourself.
I'm going to hold out on a super negative verdict, as yeah sure, succ and fucc.. but I've been thinking about how we think some of those Disney movies are for little girls, but a dude wrote the story and animated them, and honestly, I think we all just want some real love like that crap..
This all being said, they have deteriorated my mind state with all their gaslighting crap, especially because I'm trying to quit drinking, family, girlfriends, etc always try tell me I've done or doing something I never did. Once I catch them out, they kind of ease off the gas, but they try again and it's like, your supposed to take care of me, not fuck with me for what seems like sport
TL;DR: Women show up out of the woodwork when you're doing well for yourself.
Just concentrate on you, for you are solely responsible for your happiness
You are wrong. You are the sum of your actions, sure, but the "action" here isn't whatever you do to fit in, it's the repression of your "true self" in favour of what won't draw attention. The Shell you have become isn't a person, it's a reflection of what you think other people want and that reflection cannot self actualise. No matter how well you satisfy the lower tiers of the hierarchy of needs if you are inauthentic you CANNOT be happy or fulfilled, you have locked away that outcome.
The problem comes with when you've neglected the Ghost in favour of the Shell so long you no longer know how to be anything other than what you think others want. You no longer understand yourself and therefore cannot be authentic even if you try and that is the state of true alienation. Your Shadow is the only expression of the Ghost at that stage and it being unincorporated means you are either deeply ashamed by repressed thoughts or unaware of the delineation between the Shell and the Shadow, which will manifest in absurd statements like "nothing is holy to women" which are rooted not in true belief but in anger and confusion and, below it all, fear and suffering.
>TL;DR: Women show up out of the woodwork when you're doing well for yourself.
Just concentrate on you, for you are solely responsible for your happiness
This user gets it. Do that and women will swarm around you. They are naturally attracted to men who don't pay any attention to their bullshit, because subconsciously they know those are alpha species and can't help wanting their dicj.
>it's the repression of your "true self"
What is true self? What were you before world around you molded you into what you are now?
True self exists only in psycho-physiological preconditions you inherited through your bloodline. You can go against your true self only if you deny those. That is the only guideline you get in life.
That's what people call "destiny". Fighting your destiny will make you miserable. Beyond that do whatever the fuck you want with your life.
>absurd statements like "nothing is holy to women"
Also about that part. Would any woman sacrifice her own children, her husband and herself for something she believes in, for an idea. The answer is no. That is what I mean by "nothing is holy to women". Obsessing about abstract concepts like "holy" is purely a male thing.
I'm sitting here hungover too lazy to get more weed or beer, and though I'm not fulfilled, I can strangely say I'm happy.
I owe no one anything, apt paid for, just did a big clean, leftover pizza in the fridge, chocolate ice cream, a smoothie, 100% dark chocolate and friends waiting online for me, if I so choose.
I've stayed with friends I've met online around the world, so that non-life gamer meme is bs
Only thing I wish I could do is kick my bad habits and get proper fight training again. I'm in a strong habit, but I'll get there if I really want it.. but that little question right there, how things can change in literally the blink of an eye, is what I live for.. hell I don't even get mad when bad shit happens, it's almost invigorating to experience and learn new things.. I get upset, but in the end, i submit to the inevitable and try to overcome
Nuns?
Also, my sister is a top tier doctor, head of pediatrics, and always on call. You could say she has given up some of her freedom for duty
I've got nothing more to add user. I can tell you've figured out how shit works.
>Only thing I wish I could do is kick my bad habits and get proper fight training again. I'm in a strong habit, but I'll get there if I really want it.. but that little question right there, how things can change in literally the blink of an eye, is what I live for.. hell I don't even get mad when bad shit happens, it's almost invigorating to experience and learn new things.. I get upset, but in the end, i submit to the inevitable and try to overcome
This part here. The deepest truth our monkey brains can grasp without sinking into delusions.
The "true self" in this context is the person you would be if you removed your own weakness from the equation and lived and your personal philosophy of life dictates is the best way to live.
The Turtle is the true self, the Shell is the person your weakness constructs to reduce your hardships and justify in your mind your failure to address them. The Turtle knows that you've had too much to drink this weak but the weakness wants the dread of another day wasted to go away so the Shell says you've had a hard day and you deserve a treat or that it's not a big deal, or that you're happy with how things are. Learning to distinguish between the Shell and the Turtle is the first and most necessary step towards improvement, because that's how you choose what to give a fuck about.
Yes, a few would and have, just like a very few men would. Takes an odd kind of man to sacrifice his wife and children for an abstract idea though.
Not to mention the supreme act of female archetypal heroism is to sacrifice your self to give birth to and raise children. You talk about sacrifice like it's just jumping on a grenade but parenthood is choosing to jump on EVERY grenade for
your children and always putting them first.
Nuns don't have children you dummy.
Go and ask your sister if she had children, would there be something in the world she'd sacrifice their lives over. I can guarantee the answer is no.
Men, on the other hand, plenty of men have sacrificed all for an idea. I'm not saying it's a good or right thing. It's just a deep difference between how male and female thought processes work. Both male and female ways of thinking are needed and correct in certain situation.
>The "true self" in this context is the person you would be if you removed your own weakness from the equation and lived and your personal philosophy of life dictates is the best way to live.
I think I understand what you're trying to get at here user. I still disagree with your concept of shell. Even your idea of your weakness and the idea of your personal philosophy are parts of your shell the way I see it. You've acquired both of those from interacting with the world around you. You weren't born with them, so that can't be your true self.
>Yes, a few would and have
Give me an example, I'll eat my words.
>Not to mention the supreme act of female archetypal heroism is to sacrifice your self to give birth to and raise children.
I'm not trying to downplay that. That is the most admirable highest value of a woman. Still not the same as the male concept of holy.
You straight up have depression. See a doctor and start an SSRI.
You have Aspergers, google the symptoms ?
Not quite because the Shell isn't an actual personality or collection of traits so much as a false self image you project to your conscious mind and to others.
Let's try a clarification of the point then. Weakness is the extra fat you carry. It's part of you but when you burn it off that's a more true reflection of "you". The Shell is essentially when you say that you're fat because you're big boned. If you actually believe that to the point you no longer understand you need to diet and excercise to get healthy then you've got a big fucking problem. There is a psychological equivalent to this and it's devastatingly prevalent, especially in young men.
I can agree with all you've written there, user.