If gringos dont want us here then why won't you just do the work we're doing? The issue is you are too pampered.
If gringos dont want us here then why won't you just do the work we're doing? The issue is you are too pampered
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not all, paisano... but yeah, most of them are too pampered
its not the work, moron, its the pay. if beaners weren't allowed to come here and have jobs, the ppl who hire beaners to do work would have to pay a lot more to hire Americans.
... provided Americans would even do it.
you do know that they would just hire another "minority", right?
Americans will do anything they get paid well enough to do, moron.
some Americans are also minorities, which has nothing to do with this thread. Any poor person will do ANY legal work provided the pay is high enough. You racist tendency to see browner skin tones as different is clouding your ability to think clearly.
FYI Americans do. But the farmers tend to Fire Americans because they can hire you for way below minimum wage.
White person here. Fourth generation farming family. German immigrants. Former prussian junkers. We all work very hard. I started my own mortgage company last year. Was raised in traditional hard working protestant household. Scooped shit and drove tractor as a boy. Moved dead carcasses.
Have noticed: white culture is failing. We have lost our work ethic, ingenuity, and fix it attitude/abilities. Mexicans work hard, good families, not entitled.
Every white kid now wants to be a you-tuber.
>THIS argument
go to the midwest and ask all the white kids if they'd rather work outside on farms instead of working retail or fast food
wetbacks will work for 50% less pay
maybe in a post-covid world, perhaps. people are gonna get desperate to do anything for income. but the Mexican is right, many of you are pampered.
And you're a shit poster on b...
So?
There is a reason humans don’t pick cotton.
you're still wrongly assuming that there is only one amount of money that you can pay people to pick lettuce. You are retarded. If enough money is offered, even Americans will pick lettuce regardless of where they are from or what their skin tone is.
will they spend 12-16 hour shifts under the sun picking up crops? will they take risky jobs without social security? I'm not talking about skin tones, I'm talking about FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS. people from any group in those countries who have lived there for generations have been Americanized and spoiled themselves. only a handful of people would do tough jobs and most minorities I'm referring are mostly migrants who recently got there.
you clearly do not understand how thinking works. there is literally a price for anything. if you offer enough money anyone will do anything
i seriously doubt most of you Gringos will do that. Call me retarded if you wish, I still fucking doubt y'all are gonna do it at the end... if so, take plenty of sunblock buddy.
you keep ignoring the money factor. none of your posts make any mention of money. work is done for money. you are being intentionally obtuse (retarded)
>Call me retarded if you wish
racism is a form of lazy thinking. racists are always lazy thinkers. work is done for money, you pay enough money, the work gets done.
I'll believe it when I'll see it. Until then, enjoy being a gringo
you really think money will make an average american to suffer countless hours of hard work without healthcare, with below minimum wage and the constant threat of getting deported if you step out of line? this is why americans don't do those jobs, cause they would legally be needing all of those things and that's why they are usually not fucking hired by those companies.
tbh. you surely like to mention the word "money" a lot. are you sure you don't belong to a certain "minority" that Yas Forums loves to mock at?
Im laughing at the fact that we stole the souther US from you guys and you are whining about it.
Also, this is obviously bate.
1. Too perfect english on OPs post. We all know that mexicans cant even spell pampered much less use it
2. mexicans dont have enough cash for the internet
3. most mexicans are home sick because their dumb asses walk around not caring about COVID
They won't do the hard labour because it's easier to put a little effort in education and make multiples more than you without physically killing yourself out in the fields. You see the (poor) pay opportunity, and given no other options, take it? Excellent, do it. You're assumption that everyone is racist against unfortunate laborers is why the system abuses people like yourself, and why you're "retarted."
Tengo tanto orgullo en ti guey. Demuestras tanta potencia de pensamiento, reflecion y amor por tu proximo. Bien hecho. Pa tras a el camp!
So, you're saying that minorities will do the same job for less money. And what about that is bad, exactly? And what's stopping a white person from doing the same thing?
>lazy-thinking racist
sure, why not. a lazy-thinking racist with an academic title and residing in a third world nation trying to make ends meat.
you sure are a hollow-minded moron buddy. Hope you get lynch mobbed by your own employees one day.
Let's assume you're correct. Let's estimate the average American WILL do intensive farm labor for the right pay. Let's just spitball $15, cause that's what the left is always saying is the baseline livable wage. That's about 3x what migrant workers make for the work... So, logically, produce prices will go up about 3x, since labor is the highest overhead for a farm. Orrrr...we just buy it from over seas for cheaper. And, let's not forget the other industries staffed heavily with migrant labor, like construction, landscaping, and restaurants. And industries that are interdependent on those industries. Shits a ripple effect. Too much of our economy is based off of super cheap labor from foreign countries, it's about the only thing that has stopped our inflation outpacing our pay to the point where people can't afford food with a $25 an hour job.
Gracias Hermano Paisano! La vida es dura en todos lados, pero unidos siempre salimos adelas. A veces me clavo en estos lugares y termino diciendo pendejadas. Pero la neta, hay que apoyar a nuestros Hermanos, sobre todo ahora que esta la Enfermedad merodeando. Mucha Buena Vibra Carnal!
>Let's just spitball $15
Be reasonable please. I know it harder and you're a lazy thinker, but please let's spitball $50 because that it what it would actually take to get most Americans off the couch and into a field picking lettuce.
Lol, dude, for real? I grew up in a small family farm and moved to a suburb when my parents split. There were a ton of nurseries in the area, so I started working at one. $15 an hour for a high school kid in 2000? Fat fucking money. Especially considering most of the "grown up" jobs in the area paid like $12. I did 3 Summers there, then did full time for a couple years before I graduated college. Every Summer half the white kids quit the first week, by the end of the Summer it would be me, 2-3 other white kids(out of like 20-30) and the rest of the crew was Hispanic. Only a slightly better margin on white adults.
Yes, obviously any three year old can figure out that people who have fewer economic opportunities will work harder for less money that those who have vastly more opportunities to choose from. I never said or implied that this is a bad thing; only an obviously true thing.
you're only allowed here until machines that do your jobs become cheaper than paying you. as soon as that happens, you'll likely be "relocated". Andrew Jackson did it with the indians. you think we won't do it again?
You're proving my point. You were happy to get paid well to do "Mexican" work. Anybody will do ANY work if the pay is good enough.
Hay que hacer lo que se requiere. Esto dicho, siempre busques algo que te beneficie a ti y los quien cuidas. No da fruta el pensamiento de los ignorantes de las realidades en la pobresa. Prospera hermano.
Unskilled labor is beneath me. I would much rather use my brain and my money to make money and not have a broken body by the time I'm 50.
and that's why it will never happen. are you listening to yourself? $50? do you know how much food will cost?
and stop answering with "you're a lazy thinker", cause clearly you ain't thinking on the full spectrum.
PS. you think an average American is gonna pick lettuce on the field? you just can't pick-up lettuce like that. it takes practice to not damage the leaves to start with. stuff most Americans won't do, not even on a $50 wage
The better question is why do Hispanics think so little of themselves they're willing to do anything for practically nothing?
>stuff most Americans won't do, not even on a $50 wage
you are clearly a lazy thinking racist.
this is demonstrably untrue, but the more relevant issue is that the price would be so high for produce picked by high wage labor that all our produce would end up being imported. Utter bullshit that average americans would pick crops or work in a fucking chicken processing plant. It's pure misery.
asking the real questions
Hey as a white boy (my Indian name) I l
Don't have a problem with Mexicans 2 of my best friends are Mexican :) have a good day
if we started putting real penalties on people who hire illegals, wages would go up, work would still get done, and more Americans would have jobs.
Muy cierto Bro. En Mexico andamos viendo como apoyarnos unos a otros durante esta Pandemia, pero también lo importante es ayudar a los nuestros. La neta, traigo miedo por mis parientes que ya nos mayores y por eso ando con la mentalidad de apoyarnos los unos a otros. Aca, la crisis ya nos hizo (mas) pobres a muchos mas de los que ya habian. Esta gacho, pero es tiempo de mentalizarnos como sociedad en como salir de esta. Hay que prosperar, pero también hay que apoyar a los que lo necesiten...
>this is demonstrably untrue
please feel free to demonstrate away. prove me wrong with evidence. show me some examples of Americans who are collecting welfare when they could have $50/hr jobs.
You are full of shit, and you don't understand how thinking works.
Or you can just become legal and do it.... I'll wait. Dumb fuck
Not laziness, meant to illustrate a point. Even if you could get American laborers to do it, and even if they only required $15 to do it (I agree that in reality it would take a lot more), it would crush our food industry. Head of lettuce costs about $1 now, would cost $3 easy if farm workers made $15 an hour. And that is a cheap as fuck food relative to other hand picked produce. Companies won't let their percentages slide, so that cost gets passed directly to the consumer. $3 a pound grapes become $9 a pound grapes overnight. The whole food system is BUILT on below minimum wage workers. If you remove them from the equation that puts a massive chunk of America's native workforce in those positions and prices everyone but a small percentage of top earners out of eating. Everyone wins if we keep migrant workers coming and treat the even halfway decent. They make more money than they would back home, and we don't have oranges selling for $5 a pound
I couldn't agree more with you as a white american. this post is actually spot on, all joking aside.
You know why cruise ships are all foreigners working on them? They couldn't stay in business if they had to pay the ridiculous wages Amerifats demand.
I'm a white American and I've done work harder than OP has ever thought of. I pitched crab 16 hours a day for $5.25/hr, and I was glad to have the work.
you are clearly not worth my time to speak to. so I'll respond your argument with the same shit you say...
You. Assuming that I'm a racist makes me uncomfortable and since I'm foreign, it makes me feel discriminated by your words. You are clearly the one whose a Lazy-thinking Racist ya Gringo!
Mientras que sea dinero ganada honestamente, que mas quieres? Claro, aparte de mas dinero por estos motivos. Que tengas buena fortuna adelente.
...and the food you buy will be much more pricey and y'all will end-up depending even more on imported foods from Banana Republics.
será cuando se levante la cuarentena. mis chambas por ser recreativas, estan clausuradas hasta nuevo aviso. pero hay que aguantarla por los viejos y los chamacos