You failed to convince me socialism won't work and instead only showed me few of you have read or understood Marx...

You failed to convince me socialism won't work and instead only showed me few of you have read or understood Marx. Lets try this again.

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Richard Wolff is a retard. Read actual socialist theory, user.

Besides Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Orwell and half a million others who do you suggest?

Fuck off commie.

Fuck you too faggot

I merely do not enjoy the social and cultural liberalism that comes along with it, and the whole universal ideology thing. I live in Finland and see no reasons to implement collective ownership of production as it would be better in the hands of private owners from Finland who are interested in the industries. If we let those people be private, they can thrive and bring wealth to the state via taxation. If it was one state run company/industrial institution taking care of the area, it would stagnate, because the positions would be filled with bud-buddies of bureaucrats. Our pension system already gives a good safety net.
But we aren't a good middleground or some other bullshit like that. This society works SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FINNISH NATION. Other nations need different solutions as they are structured differently and have different values, expectations, capabilities, aspirations and situations.

Retard.

>Unironically supporting a half assed pseudophilosophy concocted by some lay Jew

*Lazy

OP can't help being a complete moron

What issues of modern society would be answered and are required to be solved by communism? What issues do you see a communist society would fundamentally possess?

>If it was one state run company/industrial institution
You're thinking of the Soviet Union. That method is know as State Capitalism, because the owns everything (i.e. the state has become the capitalist). I worker coops, the company is ran by the workers them selves. It's kinda like each of them own a stock in the company and have limited say, but that "stock" is cannot be sold and is handed back in when you quit.
>This society works SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FINNISH NATION
And I'm ok with you modifying things to work for your specific geographic and demographic location. Leninism was Marxism specific to Russia.

Well for one, we wouldn't feel so stoic and powerless. Entertainment, media and politics won't feel like such a shit show.

How does a worker coop differ from the company in practice? If it is a big industrial complex in question, it requires a lot of different positions, with different amounts of effort, specialization and responsibility. Someone has to oversee that whole process. Would that not mean that different positions would expect different size of compensation?
Since you sound like an ancom, how would healthcare, the justice system, education, police, military etc. function, if at all present. And if they do, is the way you would implement them better or worse than the current system in place?

None of you F aggots can even define socialism. I bet you think the government itself is socialist, don't you?

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I do not feel that stoic or powerless. Entertainment has found new shapes and forms thanks to capitalism I give you that, and the global market. I believe culture wouldn't thrive under a communist system, especially an anarchist one. Do you expect indie people to do all the job? And do you expect them not to strive for greatness? Do you expect people not to show appreciation for their work and compensate to them via donations or something?

You communists should instead focus on the individual problems in practice with the current system. I assume you are American so your real problem is the electoral system using FPTP. You should have multiple member proportional on all levels.

You guys seam to think everyone get paid the same in socialism.
Debunked:
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"No, communists are all for workers getting the credit they deserve. A doctor contributes more to society than a janitor does, so therefore the doctor gets more than the janitor, but they both still need food, water, a home, healthcare, education, maybe a car, etc. The doctor, however, might get some nicer items, more vacation time or days off, fewer hours, and other non-monetary benefits.

There is also the aspect that unimportant positions such as "janitor" might not even exist under socialism or communism, and that the duty of cleaning up would be shared among the people within a certain community (like a workplace or a neighbourhood for example).

And ultimately, communists want to abolish money completely." - socialism101.com/basic

Mark Fisher, Paul Cockshott, and Daniel De Leon.

This image is a disgusting bastardization. Democracy is and has always been a core value of anonymous international. Fuck off you authoritarian sheep-faggot. Go starve to death in china if you want commies so bad.

Fuck off, little cuck.

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Watch the first video faggot, and don't waste anymore of my time.

>democracy = muh capitalism
Didn't watch the vid, kys kike.

Get shot. If you want soc. Why dont you move to a soc country instead of ruining other peoples?

Capitalism = full ownership of your labor. Why do you think its okay for the state to own most or all of an individuals labour? Do you honestly believe that once you are recieving no dispensible currency you will get what your labor is worth? Not a fucking chance.

How many jobs did Marx have?

Did he ever work a job at all?

Or like a parasite lived off the hard work of his friends?

I understand Marx pretty well, and personally you shouldn't listen to a man talking about the working class when he never fucking worked.

Just figure out everything to make a system work. Look at what it takes... Remember nothing will work perfectly in real life as it does on paper. Not to mention hidden variable factors. Put in the human factor which is pretty much unpredictable. Not many systems can withstand the variance needed to run smoothly as long as the human equation is there. So find a system that will work... prob not good but will allow you human beings to evolve enough to get to the point to actually understand. Your world thinks it knows so much. You don't realize how much you still have wrong. Most of you haven't even figured any of it out for yourselves. You just listen to everyone else, you personally have no experience with anything. Even high sciences on earth are still at an elementary level. OP has no case for anything he argues... proof is by the fact he uses youtube videos to prove his point. Sorry quickly wrote.

I don't know, why are you debating things you obviously know noting about? Not all forms of socialism require a big imposing government nor it's ownership of everything.

How and why should they receive any compensation in an anarchist system if there is no money? I can see a state keeping track off people and compensating them with different products from different industries, but in an anarchist system they need a commodity to be compensated properly. Why should the other industries or even worker coops co-operate and compensate other people?
I believe in an anarchist system you MUST have money, or you will not see proper compensation to anyone.

Socialism, bailing out capitalism since the Great Depression.

When he was a young man he worked. But he got black listed and couldn't get a steady job after that (and this was before he became a communist). And he did still find work writing news paper columns. Besides, do bosses work?

I didn't say anarchist. I said socialist; still have government just not imposing like Soviets. You gotta walk before you can run.

You cant just make the government magically dissapear. And you cant have a proper distribution of public services without a government and a significant beaurocracy. Attempting to trust current governments with the power required to implement socialism is an absolutely disastrous plan. Reserve the socialism for anarcho-socialist colonys only, thats where it works best.

How would large urban centers fare in an anarcho-communist society? There would need to be huge imports from the countryside. And the countryside is way larger in land-area, so they would not feel need to include the urban centers as a part of their community. They would starve, and along with them would ensue riots, mass death, fall of industry, decline of technology and the end to the aspiration for human development.

You're probably a middle aged no-life fag who cooms to trucks. Your life is already ruined, shithead.