do you believe people who work hard always get ahead?
Do you believe people who work hard always get ahead?
Nah thats complete bullshit. Working hard only gets you so far you have to be lucky to make it in life or at least make your luck by cheating and fucking people over.
Depends on circumstances, but yes, generally when you put in work, you get progress.
not even remotely true
Probably they get a better high score in heaven
Probably will get farther than a version of you that didn't work as hard. I get stagnant and want to give up probably not the same as not working hard. I can see the benefit to it though.
No, but It certainly does help and increase your chances.
Also the board is stupid and wrong because, like most leftists, it assumes that wealth cannot be created.
or have the right (((connections)))
>Probably will get farther than a version of you that didn't work as hard.
they've done a study where they followed poor kids for yeras,
there were two groups, kids that believed that working hard paid off and those that believed that there was no point in trying
after several decades they found there was virtually no difference financially between both groups.
Monopoly is designed by commies to make the free market look bad.
But actually it shows that monopolies are bad, not free markets.
Because in a free market, you're not forced to buy things you don't want, and you're free to innovate produce more than what is just on the board... or even just work a regular job.
Oops.
This is bullshit. I see the hardest labor being done by people who get the worst pay, the worst health care, and the least possibility for advancement. Unless you start at some point further up the food chain, hard work will only get you more hard work.
You think a single Wall Street billionaire started out in the mail room? You are deluded.
If your going to work hard, work for yourself. Don't bust your ass in a factory that, in the end, doesn't give a Fuck about you and will get rid of you when your too broken to keep up.
You know those smart kids at school the tried really hard and now have a good job?
Compare those to the kids that didn't try and are now on the dole.
There'll be a difference, you've probably misquoted that anonymous study.
Do you think a mail-room guy can make it on wall street? Even if they won a billion dollars today?
working smarter will get you further
>You know those smart kids at school the tried really hard and now have a good job?
not a thing unless they already had connections.
Nope. Gave 110% to two companies, haven't worked for either if them in more than 20 years. Was a hard and disappointing lesson to learn.
I guess you are one of those kids who never went to school
> I'm convinced that about half of what separates the successful entrepreneurs from the non-successful ones is pure perseverance. It is so hard. You put so much of your life into this thing. There are such rough moments in time that I think most people give up. I don't blame them. Its really tough and it consumes your life. If you've got a family and you're in the early days of a company, I can't imagine how one could do it. I'm sure its been done but its rough. Its pretty much an eighteen hour day job, seven days a week for awhile. Unless you have a lot of passion about this, you're not going to survive. You're going to give it up. So you've got to have an idea, or a problem or a wrong that you want to right that you're passionate about otherwise you're not going to have the perseverance to stick it through. I think that's half the battle right there.
-Steve Jobs-
oh I went to school, even fell for the stem meme.
“If wealth was the inevitable result of hard work and enterprise, every woman in Africa would be a millionaire.”
— George Monbiot
Like sure, if you want to criticise Google or Apple or Twitter for being monopolies, sure.
Monopolies are bad.
Want to push some stupid socialist agenda? Jog on cunt.
Stem works for me, are you just a nigger who cannot be bothered to work and wants to blame everyone else?
What enterprise do african women create? None. Monbiot is a cuck.
The ones who kiss the bosses ass are the ones that get moved up the ladder, and they don't give a shit what you say behind their backs. If you work hard and know your job don't ever plan on getting promoted, they'll keep you there forever.
>Want to push some stupid socialist agenda?
No. You have to work smart as well. Just working hard makes it easy for others to exploit you.
It's not 100% certain, but the percentage is still high enough to warrant hard, sustained work
Look at it from the other side. How many people at the top, CEOs elite athletes etc. Every single one of them has worked and works extremely hard to be there.
You don't see somone who doesn't work hard at the top, if you think otherwise you're deluded
>Stem works for me,
dude no one is falling for the stem meme anymore.
>Socialism is an emergency service
Retard confirmed.
You're thinking in a straight line. Obviously dead end jobs are dead end jobs, but putting in work doesn't just mean doing your job to the best of your ability, it means trying to further your career. Say you started out with no job, you could easily find a low skill no requisites job easily, unemployment is at an all time low. From there you can either climb the ranks to become a manager, or invest some of your money into education and certificates. Get into welding school, get a CDL, get programming certifications, find a trade job. Even if your job doesnt pay enough for what you want, you can get loans and there are tons of financial support programs for education. Online college is also a good option, its cheap and usually you can work on your own time.
ironically, a lot of people who are at the top for some reason out of their control (lottery, inherited an estate, one-hit wonders in music, etc.) usually crash and burn pretty hard. the ones who get their via hard work at the ones who keep wealth.
>but putting in work doesn't just mean doing your job to the best of your ability, it means trying to further your career.
sounds like a moving goalpost.
They work, regardless of being inside actual stem or not.
And you're ignoring the 17+ million who are working in stem.
But ok, you blame someone else for being both unemployable and unwilling to make your own business.
>source: your ass
This x1000
Also the players in Monopoly represent Corporations not individual people. Also it was inspired by a completely unregulated market which hasn't existed since the era of the robber barons.
>gotta have connections to get into the Army
>gotta have connections to get good grades and get into college
>gotta have connections to get certifications
>gotta have connections to get into trade schools
>gotta have connections to
shut the fuck up doomer
Of course it's not true; it's a question. Questions are inherently neither true nor false.
Sounds like you're constructing a strawman.
well there is no such thing as a "good job" to begin with you fucking simp
>They work, regardless of being inside actual stem or not.
the could have not gone to school in the first place and got a job.
t. NEET
>>gotta have connections to get good grades and get into college
which doesn't amount to anything if an employer doesn't hire you entry level in your field anyway. its basically the same as not going to college at all.
"Ain't No Makin' It: Aspirations and Attainment in a Low-Income Neighborhood"
Obviously that depends on the employer. If you think that nobody will hire you with just a college degree, then try to get experience, or do a job that provides a certification and experience at the same time such as the army or a trade school.
Different perspective.
Analyze your life and your achievements and the time you put toghether in order to "get ahead" in life.
I personally see no benefit in all that workaholic frenzy I surrounded myself in my earlies days of work. Pretty much on the opposite, once I realize what was my goal - few responsabilities and things to personally take account in, a job requiring huge amount of personall distress, etc etc, I immediately started to lean towards the medium average of it all. I'll explain better.
My company originally hired me in 2016 in order to be responsible for my office. I was working with another lass, and we had 4 people doing what we asked to them (basically, without going deep into details, it's a pharmaceutical company with a lot of regional and interregional clients in the country I come from - not america.)
I could handle it pretty ok, except from handling the guilt when somebody of my 4 missed something to do or did it poorly. In that case my supervisor would give me the hard speech and I was supposed to give it to them, so they could make no mistakes about the same thing twice the next time. But despite my efforts and my care everybody is supposed to make mistakes, so it was kinda repetitive in its own flawed mechanic. Since this was stupid and the company would pay me the same without any sensitive role if I accepted to simply be a worker bee in my office as a regular employee, I decided to opt for this concious "self-demoting".
The quality of my life skyrocketed. I've been transfered closer to home. Less commute to do. I have basically no responsability and I mostly sit on my desk now, because de-location brought a lower income of work to me whether my actual occupation was in the first place. Plus I accepted to work on saturdays from 9 to 13, who fucking gives a shit: the other days (sundays off) I basically stop working at 15:00 and go home at 16:20 ... fantastic. I stopped giving a fuck. Enjoy your burnout syndrome.