Why didn't you become a Naval Aviator?

because I did not have the money for the piece of paper that says you are allowed to be an officer
and only officers are allowed to fly...

tried to become a naval intel officer at 32 and got rejected for no apparent reason. I have a master's degree in philosophy and the recruiter couldn't even read or write properly. It was a fucking joke, a 1.5 year slog that I wasted dozens of hours on.

WW2 would have been dope as fuck... you dropped out of middle school to go to work? Sweet, anyway this is the p51 mustang...

Because there is nothing stupidier than travelling by aircrafdt.

...are you having a minor stroke?
Do you need medical attention?

Because in my country it is impolite to fly into another man's airspace.

Went full joe biden

Ok

Well, we know you are not Al-qaeda then

Because I don't want to be a soldier. I don't support my country's military policy and I would rather do something that benefits my own life instead of the government.

Plenty of others willing to go out there and throw their lives and humanity away. They sure as shit don't need me.

So edgy

Legit don't even want to be.

I could sell you some non-sense if you want though.

So much edge

> I liked being protected by other people

They don't want you either. Fat neckbeards don't make good pilots, Porkins.

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Kek

> My first world nation is so evil and I dont like my over reaching government, but I have no interest in leaving.

Me too. Had shit vision when I first went in. Plus when I graduated HS in 1993 I wasn't interested in going to college. Joined the Army instead & did 8 years. Shortly after ETSing I decided to finally go to college since a HS diploma didn't really give me much in the way of career options.

While at university I did Army ROTC. Still wearing glasses at this point. Unfortunately, the short window I had to try to become an Army Aviator closed when some crusty old 58D pilot who was about to retire told me I would never make it, and like an idiot I took it at that & went to a different branch. One of the biggest mistakes of my life.

Ironically, shortly before I'd finished all my training & headed to my permanent duty station, I found out the Army had a new program they were instituting where, if you had at least 3yrs pending at a duty station, you could sign up for voluntary surgery to correct eye issues. Now I have 20/15 uncorrected vision (borderline 20/10). And I've still never piloted an aircraft, except in my computer flight simulator.

Looking back, even if I HAD gone Navy, I wouldn't have wanted to be a fighter pilot. During that brief window when Army Aviation was still an option, when considering the airframes I was most interested in, the "attack" ones were last on my list. The just don't appeal to me. Blackhawk/Chinook/Kiowa/Apache was my OML. Since Apaches & Kiowas are the ones that are the most competitive, had I gotten into it, I knew I would have gotten what I wanted.

Blackhawk pilot here, I started flying in the Army in 2000 169th SOAR. Crazy times brother, would have been proud to have you with us.

160th, fucking big thumbs

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Salty? No. Just know cowardice when I see it.

Were you involved in operation dagger or sword?

Becaus I don't like sucking dicks

>implying you have to agree with every policy your country has for you be eligible to live in it.

Healthcare bill you don't like? Why don't you move?

Politician you don't like? Why aren't you leaving?

Got an unfair traffic fine? Better pack up!

I actually was, yes. I escorted the CH-47 for Dagger.

Kek, I made zero implication you weren't eligible. Yes voting with your feet/actions are a logical response.

My city is too dangerous? I am gonna stay.

My food is scolding hot? Gonna eat it anyway

My husband beats me? I should stay with him

I think my country overreaches and is awful and I have logical options to change my nation? Ill stay and say leaving is a dumb option.

Kek

>Crazy times brother, would have been proud to have you with us.

Thanks brochacho. Means a lot. Not sure if you're old enough to remember these shows, but Blue Thunder & Airwolf were what got me into wanting to do rotary. Wish there were a way I could do ANY kind of aviation now, but because of some meds I took before I ETS'd in 2013, the FAA refused to give me a medical certificate, and I was all set to do a fixed-wing school, the pipeline of which would have had me flying commercial in about 5-6 years. Now I make do with a CDL. Slower moving & doesn't make as much, but scenery is still nice.

169th SOAR? That's some hardcore shit. Surprised you're not flying the MH-6. Since you say you're flying the Blackhawk, that must be the MH-60 w/ the long-ass midair refueling nozzle. Tell ya the truth, if I'd ever gotten behind the controls of one of those, I'd be scared shitless upon takeoff of constantly planting the end of that thing onto the runway w/ too much nose-down attitude lol

Dope

Hey, it's me againLooked up Operation Dagger (didn't know shit about it, sorry). When I got commissioned, I was sent to Bragg in 2nd BCT (325th AIR) of 82nd. When I was there, the only combat deployment I managed to make with them was to Iraq for OND.

Turns out, we were in Al Anbar Province: with the exception of our BSB & one of our maneuver Bns that were back at Al Asad AB, the rest of the Bde was at Camp Ramadi. So we weren't there at the same time, but we saw a lot of the same fuckin' sand!

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Hard to be gung ho about killin when I can't kill a blunt @ the end of the day because regulations.

Sure, "junkie" & what not but really I feel it's limiting a lot of good soilders from being soliders.

I hope there's legalization in the next 10years. I'd love to march in & sign for the airforce reverses & enjoy a nice dewbie afterward

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Yes I do remember those shows. My father was a cobra pilot, thats what hooked me.
Yesir, UH-60 is what I flew and it wasn't thay bad to be honest, would have never touched the sticks of a CH-47.

Yup me too.

Desert Storm didn't go the years like some people said. It was days.

So That was that.

>would have never touched the sticks of a CH-47

Not the first time I've heard that. Not sure what the aversion is all about, but I guess it all comes down to personal preference. After all, I would absolutely say the same thing about the Apache- only bird I would never want to fly. As it is, when I had to do my OML of basic branches before commissioning, my last three (in descending order) were AR, IN & CH. Because fuck that shit.

Back on-topic though, what's funny is that if the things I've been told are correct, the CH-47 is the fastest airframe in the US Army inventory. Go figure.

That said, would have LOVED to fly the Huey.

Yeah it was right at the start of the war, I wasn't even allowed to talk about it for years. We sure did see alot of the same fuckin sand for sure I got out in 2015 on a medical. Miss it every day.

You a Chief or Commissioned?

A fuckin huey hell yess haha
The CH-47 is fucking fast (188mph)but we could get the UH-60 in the 200s l. The issue isnthe CH is just like flying a fucking train engine

Got out as a W-4

What did you leave at?

>we could get the UH-60 in the 200s l.

I assume that would be achieved with no passengers or cargo, no ordnance and during a controlled dive from altitude? What's the UH-60's max sustained top speed?

>The issue isnthe CH is just like flying a fucking train engine

I've heard it compared to flying a bus. Which would have been just fine for me. That 58D guy when I was in college, when I mentioned the Blackhawk, derisively referred to the UH-60 & CH-47 as "Ash & Trash". Meaning all they flew were logistic shit & dead bodies. There's the "attack/maneuver" mindset in action there. Sometimes I wonder if the reason he dissuaded me from pursuing AV is because I didn't want to fly what he flew. Have to speculate because nobody else in my graduating class expressed any interest in AV.

Had I gone AF I would have wanted the C-17 or the C-5 if I could get it. Maybe the B-1 but that would be the only combat plane I would have been interested in.

As for Navy, the Seahawk for rotary (convenient since I'm from Seattle) or the Greyhound for fixed wing would have been my choices. Seeing a trend here? Slower, non-combat logistical-oriented airframes are what interests me. No idea why.

Airborne, Chief!

I'm not a completely worthless retard, didn't need the military.

>No apparent reason
Bullshit. Some prolly blabbed on your clearance

Bad OERs from a terrible Senior Rater that I didn't deserve prevented getting promoted to CPT, so 1LT.

Fucked up thing is that when we were in Haiti, our Bde Cdr retired early so he could run for Congress in his district in 2010, and that shitbag LTC got the same category/quality OER from the Bde Cdr that I got from the Bn Cdr. I know this because I heard reports about this from 5 independent sources (including the S-1).

That Bn Cdr, after he left, his name became a 4-letter word in the Bde area. Every single one of the members of his staff, including his XO, all the LTs and every single one of the Co Cdrs, I personally heard talk shit about him, with the sole exception of his CSM. And when given the opportunity, the CSM just smiled, laughed, lowered his head while shaking it, and walked away. That's how hated that motherfucker was.

>Why didn't you become a Naval Aviator?

A crash-test dummy for suited up old-folk 5 years away from shitting in adult-diapers?

Enjoy delusion you beta cuck faggot.

It's so hard to become an aviator, super competitive and like 0.1% make it. It's like asking everyone why they aren't millionaires.

Which bat? Wanna give me an lor?

Max load we could get around at 160-170 mph depending.

And All The Way, sir

This is me: I had a way to become an Army Aviator but I didn't take it because I'm an idiot. Like I said above, biggest mistake I ever made in my Army career.

There are ways to do it, there are just a lot of steps in-between. All ya gotta do is find out what those steps are & set out on a path to achieve them. No different than climbing Mt. McKinley. Sure it looks daunting from the ground, and the people who have done it are proud as fuck for having done so- and for good reason.

But it's not insurmountable.

I was 2nd batt and I would be willing to do that absolutely for you.

Because I don’t want to bomb little kids in the Middle East.

K

My packet is only half done. In my final semester now. Covid has pushed my meps date back. I was in 4th bat 2013-2017 15t. 59 on the sift, current geology major. I can send you my packet loside when it's done.

You don't? Isn't that the whole appeal? I just didn't want to do Basic Training lol.

Right on brother, that is very exciting

Kys

What did you do in the 4th?

Mh-60 repair and alse. Never crewed.

What are you looking to fly?

60's. It's the devil I know...

i hate boats

Became a corpsman instead