Why do the liberals and the Democrats care about the people who die from coronavirus...

So what are they?

Im sorry I cant argue with autistic people

A bundle of cells that have not yet achieved sentience.

>insert any political party here

They are fetuses you scientifically illiterate stain on human existence

Nice euphemisms. Unfortunately you’re wrong, its a human being

They are mentally ill and cannot comprehend logic.

They think it's a football game and that they are part of a team; will take to the grave their undying brainwashed loyalty

Fetus

My sperm cells are more of a human being than your fetal alcohol syndrome ass. Dumbass.

>its

The country is having a freakout that we may lose 100,000 to 250,000 people to COVID19. We lose 600,000 to 800,000 a year to abortion. No businesses close. No sports are suspended. No congressmen are written to. It's mind boggling.

I could show you 3 different fetuses and you couldn't identify the human one, you idiot.

杀死美国人!杀死总统!共产主义就是这样!

No you cannot eat it!

If abortions stop, where do we put an extra 600,000 people per year, many with expensive defects due to mother's neglect? Even if t was 200,000 per year the same problem exists.

Kek!

Top Marks!

I think the point here is that if republicans and conservatives want to plough money into a centralised health and childcare system, and to financially incentivize adoption or fostering, then sure, ban abortions.

Until that point, maybe just mind your own fucking business? How come "pro-life" assholes are usually all about personal liberties until it comes to sticking their nose into some woman's business?

1: Fetuses aren't people. You can't take out a life insurance policy on a fetus, and miscarriages aren't investigated as potential murders.

2: Even if they WERE people, you can't force someone to donate their organs for the care of another person. If I cause a car accident and the only way to save your life is for me to donate blood for a transfusion to you, the police can't show up, strap me down, and seize my blood.

Banning abortion is literally the two most evil things combined:

- Slavery: for nine months you must work for the fetus.
- Forced Organ Donation: for nine months you must donate your womb to the fetus.

We don't even do that to corpses in this country. Being an organ donor is opt in. If you die, the doctors can only use your organs if you decided to let them before you croaked.

3: Conservatives pretend that "Pro Life" and "Pro Choice" are the two extremes on the spectrum. They're not: Pro Life is one side, and Forced Abortions For Undesirables is the other side. You want a compromise? That's Pro Choice, where the person gets to decide what happens rather than the government. It is the option that maximizes freedom.

Why do conservative fundie christians hate freedom?

4: Even if you think abortion is literally the worst thing happening in America right now, you should vote for candidates that will work for good, science-based sex education at as early an age as possible, and free, private, universal access to birth control for any girl who wants it. These things reduce unwanted pregnancy, especially among teenagers, and that means reducing abortions. Fundies never back these things, because abortion isn't actually about saving the fetuses, it's about enforcing a consequence for amoral behavior, except when unwanted pregnancy happens to their own precious daughters.

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>Pro Life is now a thing on Yas Forums
what the fuck are you even doing here? Moral my hairy ass you sicko and gtfo

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Get off 4C with your well thought out arguments and reasonable point of view, faggot

You know what, Stuart, I LIKE YOU. You're not like the other
people, here, in the trailer park.Oh, don't go get me wrong. They're fine people, they're
good Americans. But they're content to sit back, maybe
watch a little Mork and Mindy on channel 57, maybe kick
back a cool, Coors 16-ouncer. They're good, fine people,
Stuart. But they don't know ... what the queers are doing
to the soil!You know that Jonny Wurster kid, the kid that delivers papers
in the neighborhood. He's a foreign kid. Some of the neighbors
say he smokes crack, but I don't believe it.Anyway, for his tenth birthday, all he wanted was a Burrow Owl.
Kept bugging his old man. "Dad, get me a burrow owl. I'll never
ask for anything else as long as I live." So the guy
breaks down and buys him a burrow owl.

Anyway, 10: 30, the other night, I go out in my yard, and there's
the Wurster kid, looking up in the tree. I say, "What are
you looking for?" He says "I'm looking for my burrow owl."
I say, "Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick. Everybody knows
the burrow owl lives. In a hole. In the ground. Why the hell do you
think they call it a burrow owl, anyway?" Now Stuart, do you
think a kid like that is going to know what the queers are
doing to the soil?I first became aware of this about ten years ago, the summer
my oldest boy, Bill Jr. died. You know that carnival comes into
town every year? Well this year they came through with a ride
called The Mixer. The man said, "Keep your head, and arms, inside
the Mixer at all times." But Bill Jr, he was a DAAAREDEVIL, just
like his old man. He was leaning out saying "Hey everybody,
Look at me! Look at me!" Pow! He was decapitated! They found
his head over by the snow cone concession.
A few days after that, I open up the mail. And there's a pamphlet
in there. From Pueblo, Colorado, and it's addressed to Bill, Jr.
And it's entitled, "Do you know what the queers are doing to our
soil?"Now, Stuart, if you look at the soil around any large US city,
there's a big undeground homosexual population. Des Moines, Iowa,
for an example. Look at the soil around Des Moines, Stuart.
You can't build on it; you can't grow anything in it. The government
says it's due to poor farming. But I know what's really going on,
Stuart. I know it's the queers. They're in it with the aliens.
They're building landing strips for gay Martians, I swear to
God.You know what, Stuart, I like you. You're not like the other
people, here in this trailer park.

Why do conservative Republicans say they believe in the least government interference and then try to tell people how to live their lives and what they can do with their own bodies?

Let me rip you to something... if the Republicans want to spin up the economy at the expense of old people dying, then allow abortions.

Why?

Because you are putting more women back into the workforce. They won’t be collecting Family Leave. They won’t be taking off work because they can’t find a babysitter. Abortion allows workers to get back to work now instead of half-assing it later.

they are not wrong that they are human.
All of them are 100% genetically human, sure they aren't really a person at that point but they are human.

Murder of a pregnant woman is double homicide

lmao get a fucking grip pro lifers don't give a fuck about actual children, just their internal fantasies about fetuses

What’s your solution for crime and the welfare state? More cops with bigger guns, and condescendingly telling people to work harder?

Tell them to work harder, then bitch about crime and the mentally ill

Ask a lawyer

Some states investigate miscarriages and press charges against people as if it was intentional and a crime

We should let the economy crash and burn if it even saves ONE human life. No amount of money is worth it.

There’s a lot of angry, hate-filled murderous libs in this thread.

I’d love to meet one of them face to face

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Not angry or hate-filled. Just not a hypocrite. If a life will be spent in misery, or will be unwanted, or will be looked after by no one, then better to stop the process before its even a viable human.

Why are you cons so cruel?

Unborn offspring does not meet the definition of "people". Try again retard. Use facts instead of feelings next time

Tough talking internet hero

For fucks sakes, this again. The fetus doesn't get sentience until 32 weeks into the pregnancy. Before that it's just a lingering menstruation

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Yup I'm sure jacked conservative guys are worried about 120lb soibois.

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So this is what it’s all about? Being unwanted?

Why is being “unwanted” the criteria for whether or not someone should be allowed to live? Adolf Hitler believed that nobody “wanted” the jews, this is basically the same thing you’re saying.

Who makes you the arbiter of who deserves to be wanted and who doesn’t deserve it? What authority do you have in deciding who is loved and who isn’t?

Tough promises, bitch

please guys just fuck my wife!!!

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America is rotten to the core and it's people are no longer worth saving.
You can't save those that don't want to be saved.

LMAO this nigga thinks a clump of cells is a baby

Yeah but that's retarded: those laws exist in the same backwards shitholes that are trying to ban abortion. No sane person holds a funeral for a miscarried fetus, you don't get checks from the gubmint for every fetus in your household, you don't have to pay child support to a fetus.

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I don't claim to be the arbiter, unlike you. I believe that the women have the right to choose what happens to their own bodies in the process of growing a fetus.

You are quite happy to condemn a child to a life of heartache, misery, poverty, abuse, neglect etc, just so long as it pops out of the woman's body? You're a retard.

And your Hitler argument is just weak bait. Try harder.

I mean I know youre arguing in bad faith but anyone could be capable of feeling empathy for random victims of a global problem while not feeling empathy for specific victims of your own actions.

But you're retarded so idk why I'm even responding.

Oh yeah you're retarded, my bad, carry on.

Yeah but they are the shithole religious southern states.

Women don’t have that right and I’m making myself the arbiter of whether or not they are allowed to by voting for Republicans. And as long as there are people like me around who value human life, we are GOING to fight for pro-life causes

>Who makes you the arbiter

He's not the arbiter. The mother is. In your absolutely asinine Hitler argument, the Jews would be allowed to gas themselves? I guess I'm in favor of the Right To Die (ie: medically assisted suicide).

Furthermore you didn't react to me perfectly sound arguments here

See

>Why is being “unwanted” the criteria for whether or not someone should be allowed to live
Because they're not a person yet, also not him but tbh babies are literally nothing more than time sinks until they're around 6ish. Don't virtue signal you care about that kid, unless you're actively adopting these little space wasters, you just care more about shaming someone from your position of comfort than you do the well being of others.

Republicunts do not have the right to tell anyone what to do with their bodies. If someone will die if I don't intervene on their behalf, you cannot force me to do so. In the same way that you can't force me to donate blood even once, you cannot force a mother to donate her reproductive bits for the better part of a year.

Why do fundies hate freedom?

Dems don't care about anythibg except being the good guy. Their narrative is constantly changing in pursuit of this goal.

still better then republicans pledging their allegience to trump instead of the republican party

Why is it not OK to abort a fetus, but it's OK to force an unwanted child to live in abject poverty, to strain the already neglected orphanage system, and to systematically oppress homosexual families who would want to adopt these children but can't?

So if it’s not a person, what is it? A fetus?

Is a fetus it’s own distinct species that someday evolves into a human being, in the same way that evolutionists think chimps evolved into humans?

Rationalize your thoughts first before making asserting logical fallacies

Maybe they are all about the personal liberties of the unborn?

>being good is bad

wut

Why do libs hate our 2nd amendment (the 2nd most important right we have)?

Anyway I digress. We DO have the right because the unborn baby is a separate and unique human life.

By your logic we should just be able to remove it from the mother's body after a few weeks. If it's strong enough and has enough faith in your magic man in the sky then it'll survive, right?

>Rationalize your thoughts first before making asserting logical fallacies
Are you going say that after comparing the evolution of a species to the growth of a human? I made my point, they're useless until X time so before that, who gives a shit? Oh right, virtue signalers who want to look good online. That said a fetus is a human, just not a person, it's still a blank slate without consciousness. Gfy.

This baby was born at 21 weeks (world record) Now, he’s a healthy toddler. His name is James

And you’re a murderous freak

You know what, that's the only actually logical position. I can get that. But they still have the problem to prove that the embryo/fetus before a certain point is human.

In this argument, potential isn't enough.

Sorry I’m pissed and forgot the pic

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>in the same way that evolutionists think chimps evolved into humans

I see we've gone full retard.

I'm a pro-2A democratic socialist. I think the anti-gun groups have forgotten what the fuck 2A is for, and the way things are going in this shithole we might have to remind them soon.

I think there are some easy things we could do to cut down on gun violence without restricting our ability to hunt, defend our homes, or overthrow the government.

There's a reason it's a world record, you oblivious fucknut

abortion isn't murder tho

It's a law in California. I guess you're right , it is backwards shithole places!

If you're worried about strawman babies, let's go back to Hitler. All abortions are stopping new Hitlers. Congratulations, moral quagmire avoided.

James was probably saved by doctors. Would it be okay to hold a gun to a doctors head and tell him he can either work to save James for several weeks or you'd throw him in jail?

You pro-slavery fuck.

If there’s nothing wrong with abortion, why is it a crime to keep 2246 fetal remains in your house?

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That's because murdering an expecting mother and someone voluntarily having an abortion aren't even remotely the same thing. The only retarded shit holer is you.

Whatever. It's still a retarded law. People miscarry all the fucking time. It's not a big deal. Just like abortion.

Nice.

Holy shit. You’re out in the land of fantasy dude, there’s something wrong with your head.

You have issues, like serious mental health issues. Please don’t buy a gun, I don’t want you to hurt normal people

Abortion is part of God's plan.