/CBG/ - Christ Yas Forums General

/CBG/ - Christ Yas Forums General

> Salvation is by grace through faith. Being born again by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is the only requirement for salvation. (John 3:16)
> Believers have eternal security (once saved, always saved). (John 10:28-29)
> Jesus is God, and Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Ghost and born of the virgin Mary. God consists of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct persons (John 1:1, 1 Corinthians 15:27-28, John 8:16-18, John 17:5). This doctrine is commonly known as the trinity. Modalism or so-called "oneness" is heresy.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.

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Cool. Who do I have to worship to be served a plate of wing zing nachos?

Not much of a flock, eh preacher man?

Nah, I saved by switching to Geico...

Jesus does not approve of you using Yas Forums

saved from?

Hell. If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, your sins will be forgiven and you will earn a spot in Heaven.

hey so what about leviticus 19:19?

so god sends a savior, his son who is god in human form to show us the way and lead us to salvation. and the only way the human race to respond is by killing him? I believe earth is a layer of hell and mankind are the demons wondering this existence

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he fell from heave to earth. doesn’t say he fell to any abyss

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That's Old Testament. Christians do not follow the Old Testament's rules unless restated or condoned by Jesus.

That was apart of the old covenant law given to Moses at Mount Sinai. Romans 3 says that we are no longer under such law but the law of faith.

Well, if anything needs a little salvation it would be this dump

how can you pick and choose the parts of the book to believe?

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Everything in the Old Testament was invalidated by the New. Jesus is the only way, not old laws and books.

Because it says later on that we are washed by faith and no longer need to adhere to the old rules.
Thats why we eat bacon and Jews don't. They don't follow the new test

Okay so what about Matthew 5:29 then?

>implying hell is real

Can you prove that?

Hyperbole

Its a metaphor for if something causes you to sin remove it from your life.

Can you prove its not?

>Modalism or so-called "oneness" is heresy
You people are so simpleminded it's disgusting.

>It's heresy
>heresy means super bad
>if you do super duper bad things, you'll go to the place where bad little boys and girls go when they die

It's possible to be 3 distinct things and also one. For example, your body is made of many parts, and those parts make up the whole of your body.

1 Corinthians 3:16
Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Prove it

That's referring to the sin of adultery hence when Jesus says to pluck the eye out (symbolically). Sin still exists and needs to be avoided because the wages of sin is death.

That's not how this works faggot. You're the one saying its real. I'm saying it may or may not be, and will believe if you can prove it to me without a doubt.

Read it within he context of the chapter.

I never claimed that you earn a spot in heaven by living a clean life. That comes from believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Also, you just described the Trinity which is a doctrine I agree with. I don't agree with Modalism which is the belief that the father, son, and holy ghost are three modes of the same person like how water can be either a solid, liquid, or a gas.

NO U

Being saved by grace alone is such a garbage theory. Living a life of immortality but believing Christ as Redeemer is bullshit.

If Christianity is true, the only real way to enter heaven is through living as close as you can to Christ. Not simply believing.

I guess though you could make the argument that, if one is to be immoral and break the law, they were never really a believer in Christ

I didn't say it was. You're talking to more than one believer.
Stop being daft

This is definitely the dumbest response to the challenge.

Protestants go to Hell :)

But if you really do believe you're not gonna live a life full of immorality. You're gonna try and be righteous and feel true guilt when you slip and sin

Nah
It's just fruitless to argue with heretics and reprobates

John 10:28 yes, u less you willing choose to leave that grip. Then entire book of Galatians is dedicated to a church that chose to follow commandments outside of the New Covenant and we're told Ye have fallen away and there remaineth no more sacrifice for your sins

The word Trinity does not appear in the Bible.
Interestingly, is you read a couple more verses John 10:30 states that I and the father are one, as does the first chapter of John ( since that seems to be the preferred book a f study this far)

>its fruitless to do what the Bible says and try to convert lost souls

ok heretic

>That comes from believing on the Lord Jesus Christ
You think like a child

>the father, son, and holy ghost are three modes of the same person like how water can be either a solid, liquid, or a gas
The trinity is obviously a metaphor, you fucking simpleton. The father is the universe, the son is man, and the holy spirit is the essence that binds everything. God is the sum -- the other 2 are the parts.

Okay so give me all your things :) Luke 14:33

Nonsense.

>It's just fruitless to argue with heretics and reprobates
Yet here you are... on Yas Forums... bickering with a bunch of "heretics and reprobates"

I'll tell you what's fruitless. Trying to reason with someone whose arguments are predicated on blind, dogmatic faith in fairy tales.

>Nonsense
>Just believe in Jebus and you'll go to the happy place when you die
Fantastic argument. Try thinking harder, Christfaggot

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Also, saved by grace through faith is spoken to individuals who are already saved, not a lost individual.

As opposed to the book of James which is the only book of the Bible where the words "faith" and "only" appear.

James 2:17-24 KJV
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. [18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. [19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. [20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? [21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? [22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? [23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. [24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Any person who trusts/believes some unseen..god is going to intervene in their lives needs to be in an insane asylum.

But because generations of our forefathers thought like this...were supposed to.

No thanks..I'll trust a few humans with big brains before I trust a god..that does shit except make the person "praying" to it feel better.

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Kek
I'm here
If you want to listen you're free to. Pretty sure you're only here for heresy sake. Right?

Revelation 6:10 is my favorite bible verse. Absolutely based end-of-the-world shit. By reading this, you now have an urge to google it because your curiosity compels you to.

FUCK, I meant 6:12

Honestly..I have read the bible in its entirety.

The most touching set of verses I found was

Proverbs Chpt 1 V 5-19.

Really touched me when I read it at 19

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What’s the significance of using the wording “believing on” rather than “believing in” Jesus? Using “on” doesn’t seem right grammatically, but I’m curious about the use.

I think it's a fallacy when people pray like it's a slot machine to get goodies from.
The Bible is very direct about God's handling of the era.
He has spoken.
Save yourselves.
Direct knowledge will cease

Direct contact and presence is coercion instead of choice.

i think he's just retarded

Believing in
Believing that *subject* exists
Believing on
Believing the things pertains being to/ taught by or about *subject

did jesus die in vein?

nah you just retarded

Believing in
Believing that *subject* exists
Believing on
Believing the things pertaining to/ taught by or about *subject

Sounds cool. But I think imma go with Islam that offers me 72 virgins in heaven. Do you guys do that? No? Then bye

A very spirited screech of disengagement

I am also the poster of
But I think in that age they were trying to make social norms...and the fastest way to do it was get everyone behind a single "figurehead" (Jesus) and into a controlled propoganda lesson...guess what it took back in 0AD

Think Klingon Empire

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you a baby fucker kek

This.

The whole point of this exercise we call existence is that the Devil has a bet with God that humans given free will will naturally be selfish and base and god disagrees saying they will naturally tend towards his grace.

To settle this they created the world. As this user says direct contact makes free will irrelevant.