I firmly believe that Localization must be accelerated in this country, now more than ever. Food sources must be moved WAY closer to heavily populated areas than they are. And I practice what I preach. This is a serious, serious matter. The more food a person has, the less strain they put on the grocery stores and free up MORE food for others to purchase.
ALSO, if need be, gardens can be employed as emergency sources of food for others if this crisis really gets out of hand.
Far as I'm concerned, ALL Americans should be amassing emergency reserves of food seeds as a contingency against possible shortages of food.
We need to stop just assuming our overstretched supply lines will magically save hold together automatically. Food is transported and farmed by PEOPLE, and if those people think they're in danger from COVID-19, they may abandon their posts and demand more protection before they go back to work.
This is not a joke to me. This is SERIOUS. I made the mistake of assuming COVID-19 would just tap us on the shoulder, and I am not going to be caught off-guard a second time.
I've seen the shoppers at Lowes. They think the same way I do. They're preparing for possible shortages of food right now.
We should be prepared and not just "hope" our food supply is magically safe from the disruptive effects of COVID-19.
>telling people who don't own land to buy seeds they have no knowledge how to plant and use in the hope they might be able to stave off some unknown 'food shortage' in the future
grow vegetables and maybe a potato you faggot, its fun and healthy. If your country is a net importer of food you're fucked either way, but agricultural production is one of the least affected industries here
Jonathan Ramirez
You seriously don't think food production in the US won't be badly disrupted if COVID-19 strikes the Midwest hard? How naive are you? If truckers and farmers get sick, they can't farm and they can't transport.
Chase Moore
Apparently the concept of "learning how to plant seeds" is alien in America.
Easton Foster
Food supply is fine. Only 20 percent of people get sick enough to require hospitalization. Sucks, but there are millions unemployed. There will be people to drive trucks. And agriculture is largely mechanized now. (Whether some people will be able to afford food is another matter.)
Ethan Sanders
I grew up on a farm and my family are farmers, though not in the US.
Here, the government prioritized food production and distribution above all other services in the crisis. if your government says farmers are staying home because of the sniffles, thats a stupid fucking idea. farmers and truckers here have not stopped at all.
The biggest hits here are fresh fruit due to less migrant workers and regional lockdowns. production of all staple crops is business as usual.
learning how to plant seeds is easy. turning it into any reasonable percentage of your energy intake with no existing experience will take you years.
Isaiah Roberts
Everyone should be prepared no matter what. Unfortunately my job maybe move to the city and I am in a situation where I can't have a garden, but even when I was poor as fuck I always make sure that I have at least two weeks of necessary supplies on hand so I have never had to Panic buy once in my life. People are just too dependent upon the government and have their hands out at all times and it's disgusting. This is why I don't donate or help during times like this, the people that need basic supplies right off the bat are all idiots
Matthew Wood
bait blue pilled not based op is a fag Stop trying to act like your fucking varg mate you are a nobody shut the fuck up
Dominic Green
Letting the heavily populated areas die off, sounds like a better idea to me.
Chase Jones
Fuck off chip
Carson Baker
I'm gonna be real with you, Op. I agree with what you are saying, the answer is "Self-Sustainability".
People in the cities should have the right to grow urban gardens through collective participation. In the suburbs, people should have the right to grow orchards and raise some small farm animals. This could be a new beginning for Humanity if they pull their strings right... unless they screw-up.
Dylan Ross
news flash dirt in a bucket can produce food too 2020 this is our time to shine people
Mason Barnes
>Am nobody
Not according to the government, lol. I'm "Critical" according to the Feds.
Jackson Perry
You nailed it on the head. We need self-sustainability.
Bentley Carter
>in this country Hi OP, this is Yas Forums and it ain't no fucking country. Your message is sound but if you want to spread it to American garden enthusiasts, I'm pretty sure you are at the wrong place. This was a big swing and miss imo. Also, OP is a massive faggot
Really don't know I bummed it a "post random useful stuff" thread and I thought it was kinda related to this thread also. I think it is a rain water collector for your garden
Henry Roberts
I agree Works well in Colorado. Everyone else should do it as well.
Honestly if COVID-19 turns into a living nightmare for the South and Midwest, this kind of thing could be our future for a couple of months.
Henry Davis
Agreed we could all benefit this shit in our backyard. My wife being a fucking hippy has been asking to build one of these in our yard for a year now... I'm not handy at all.
Kayden Hughes
Amen to that user. We definitely need a change in everybody's mindset and start to grow shit through any means, this user got it right if someone lives inside a city:
I live in the Tropics and I've been trying to grow fruit trees for over 10 years and now more than ever, I've realized that this might be the future for us.
This Virus is changing social paradigms and those who have the time and space to grow and maintain orchards should realize its their time to shine!
PS. soon will have large batch of White Sapotes ready in a few days and weeks!
flavor is like an extremely sugared mango, its very sweet and gooey. But its very good for insomniacs, the stuff makes you sleepy. Just avoid the seeds since they can be a bit toxic.
Jason Long
Your best bet? Whenever possible, go for Heirloom seeds. The seeds breed true-to-type (i.e they're full strength and don't suffer from the problems that come from F2s from F1 hybrids).
I'm astonished local governments haven't done more to encourage self-sufficiency in food during this crisis.
If cities lose their convoys of food, they're fucked because the food sources are too far away. We cannot feed our own population if our supply lines are disrupted.
Oliver Kelly
hello solarpunk here being smug in a shack
right now I got radishes, taters, cukes, squash, walnut trees, peppers, shiitake mushrooms, carrots out the ass
I am so fucking smug about this
Luke Hall
Sorry OP the only thing Americans are capable of growing is weed.
Jace Carter
Proud of you user. But get more fruit. You don't want to contract scurvy from Vitamin C deficiency.
Chase Flores
Self sufficiency is the beginning of anarchy. Theren lies the problem; govts want slaves, not free men.
It's still a big eeeh. We produce a lot but like most other places a lot of that is by corporate farming. Some of the things we produce are exported heavily like lamb and potatoes (suck it, Idaho. We have better taters). I see a lot of backyard agriculture too. Chickens are common even in the city and community garden's are a thing.
There always been a push to keep agriculture part of our state identity even as we shift to technology, medical, and government.
>Grown food for years >Even mastered growing raspberries in 90 degree heat
Not my fault too many Americans waste their cultivating skills on fucking drugs.
You can't survive on weed guys. The absence of vitamin C alone would eventually kill you.
Samuel Allen
Screw politics. It's simple common sense to have your sources of food CLOSE to where you live. It makes no fucking sense to have your main food supply multiple states away when you're a huge city.
One pandemic and the whole thing could grind to a halt.
Anthony Fisher
That would be kinda ideal to those of my ilk. Fewer humans = less difficulty overall. That being said, yeah, it does just make sense to grow your own damn food. It's not hard even! All I have out here is sand and spiders but I've turned it into a damn fine meal by simply fucking putting work in There's the problem, you see. Most uplanders are averse to actually producing anything for themselves.
(The trick with raspberries in high heat is to buy a bunch of DIFFERENT types and test them out. The ones that survive year after year after year are the types you keep buying. It's accelerated natural selection. The intense climate will tell you which raspberry cultivars are the tough sons-of-bitches you want.)
Xavier Mitchell
I'm a Southerner, accustomed to high indexes of 115 degrees. Been surrounded by green my entire life. I've gardened for life. And I do not share the government's COVID-19 optimism.
I'll never not grow food again. I let up recently. That was my mistake. COVID-19 has opened my eyes.
Leo Scott
Oh man perfect. I'm in Tex and I have never been able tmake rasps grow worth a damn. Gotta keep at I spose. Hard tdo with no money.
Hey, join the club irt(southern). Shackanon here. I started a city boy, though, and fell offgrid once I got a bit too feral for upland civilization. Since then I built a shack and started doing everything myself. My shitty homemade oven
Way ahead of you, got most of my seeds already and a few others are incoming. I’ve been making flower beds for the past few days, and have a few more days until they are complete.
Owen Young
Started indoor garden a week or two before WA lockdown
Parker Brooks
Supposedly, there are now raspberry cultivars bred for the heat.
But there is an alternative. Out-of-season cultivation. Grow them in a greenhouse when it gets much colder.
I'm a suburbanite, albeit one blessed with a good-sized backyard. Lot of potential cultivation space, if need be. Also, unlike way too many Southern subdivisions, I have honest-to-God trees.
Wildflowers are awesome for Quarantine. If you're stuck indoors, they bring the outside to you (all those bees, butterflies, etc. are so cool buzzing about).
Another wise user is wise.
Carson Richardson
I have to agree with this user right here:
Governments have been lobbied to oblivion by the big food industries (among others) who depend on us buying their shit. They have molded us to behave like cattle feeding on their bags of processed crap.
Many have forgotten the ways, choosing instead to depend on the Supermarket with products made a 1000 (or more) miles away. People prefer to buy Avocados made in Mexico instead of even trying to grow a seed (Southern California and Arizona, I'm looking at y'all!). Its time to shift our mindset into figuring-out what could I grow where I live? and then practice and practice until they have their own orchard. I'd try with permaculture and agroforestry.
Lincoln Garcia
> Implying pure fruite/veg/whatthefukever seeds are pure and available > Not knowing the last of human hope for pure seeds is locked deep in a glacier you'll never see on an island near the fucking north pole.
Caleb Diaz
In this particular year, I'd go for blackberries built for intense heat over raspberries. Safer bet.
Liam Jenkins
I fully acknowledge most of them are F2s rather than heirlooms. But we don't have the luxury of choice in all things.
Hell, advanced cross-breeding/making things breed true to type over generations is master-level gardening and we do not have time this year for that.
Daniel Sanders
Yeah I got wild dewberries and wild grapes. Forgot about sayin bout em cuz they're wild yknow? No maintenance.
yeah, the vault is a place where seeds are stored in case of an apocalypse. but sincerely we don't need to depend on that! there are always seeds! try with the simple ones like mulberries, blackberries, raspberries and gooseberries, they are easily forageable and can grow rapidly if you know how to save the seeds...
never tried, but you just blasted my mind with this idea! holy shit that's an awesome idea!
Xavier Young
Read Murray Bookchin
Isaiah Ramirez
Post-script: I do have wild grapes, but they climb up the trees and I can't harvest the grapes, lol.
Nicholas Sanders
The Midwest will be fine, f*** the rest of the world always eating up our food.
Remember who's the flyover country when you're starving to death and choking on your own lungs, stupid. Also coastal idiots have no idea how to rear animals or take care of plants. I imagine thousands will die from eating potato berries.
Eli Butler
Tarp + shake tree. That and some climbing, yeah. As well, ycan take said fallen grapes and plant em elsewhere yknow
It's flattering to get pulled over speeding a lil bit, and the cops feel the need to have half a dozen people for their own safety. maybe they're just hoping one of them will survive to tell the tale when they finally f*** with the wrong person on the wrong day
Ryder Flores
What if your local environment is not ideal for establishing a garden?
imma be real with you buddy. the midwest is one step from loosing its fertility! many farmers don't let their plot of land rest during a few seasons, they've been repetitively using it and if they don't allow their land to take a few... I'm looking at a future dustbowl over there dude.
Jackson Miller
why did you post this street shitter with your question?
Dude I ordered my gardening seeds from WISCONSIN (JungSeed), lol.
Wyatt Murphy
And my other major supplier is based in Maine (Johnnys Selected Seeds).
Jose Thomas
I've seen the grey awful color the soil has turned in the past 20 years of Monsanto pesticides and corn / soy that takes from the soil and gives nothing back. Even the forests/plains are heavily poisoned.
Hosta farms or chinese-owned now, and they don't give a f*** about this land. Ex. Millions of feral hogs.
Anthony Foster
Corn, hemp, squashes. They form a cycle, each giving and taking different nutrients.
