Is Dub vs Sub just a unironic meme?

That english actress whose name I already forgot is so fucking hot Yas Forumsros...

What if your kid is girl though.

>actress

>being elitist about a language that isn't yours or that you even speak

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>not wanting your son to get those CHAD jaw genes for himself
gaaaaaaaaay

Why does it matter what a voice actor looks like?

>faggot turns into a trans
shocking, just like half of Yas Forums

Hollywood exists because America has the top talent when it comes to acting. Shitty Japanese acting (and their godawful language) is becoming irrelevant.

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Give her to adaption.
Or pull Sparta and throw her off the cliff and claim that she mysteriously disappeared.

3rd on bottom is clearly a dude with weight issues

>Being a tripfag

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CARE WHAT A VOICE ACTOR LOOKS LIKE?

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>Judging a voice actor by their physical appearance

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There used to be truth in this. During the 5th gen when dubs started to become a more common thing, Japan already had a strong industry for hobbies-related voice acting but anime and video games still weren't mainstream here. Basically, voice actors were mostly failed actors, and anime/video game voice actors were a tier below even that. A lot of shit was phoned in and this trend continued on through a lot of the 6th and 7th generations.

Since then though actual career video game voice actors became a thing over between kids who grew up with this stuff growing up and getting into it, and these industries becoming relevant enough to attract regular talent to them. There's actually a lot of great dub work nowadays, but a lot of people still associate dubs with the days when they were measurably garbage.

Why do you fucking faggots worship Japs so much?

Every game should be played in it's original language. If you don't understand that language, use subtitles.

what rationale makes you believe this

this nigga gets it, same shit for movies, dubs are for plebs and have always been for plebs

Where do you think we are?
Also
>worship
I guess liking anything over westernshit would seem that way to you faggots.

a moronic one, no doubt

r u sure?

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Ironically incels succumb more to face and body shaming than roasties ever did. It pains me every single day how incels have brought down the male gender this much.

>play game series with Japanese voices
>English voices for the games sound out of place forever

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erica lindbeck is hot as fucking shit and i challenge anyone who disagrees to hand to hand combat (naked)

>Where do you think we are?
>inb4 hurr is no longer a weeb site anymore

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Games originally in english have good to great voice acting but most jap to english dubs are awful, atlus games are the only ones tolerable.

Every dub I've ever listened to has sounded like shit. Simple as.

The reason for that? I suspect because the dubbers are not as involved or culturally/racially in tune with the developers of the game.

yes, you can still see the hairline despite their shitty knotted combover/ass transplant

They imagine the VA every time they fap to the character.

>anyone who disagrees
you're on, faggot (no homo)

>old anime dubs
sometimes
>new anime dubs
pretty much never
With that being said I've seen a few animes that have been released in the 00s where I genuinely prefer the English voices for characters... but its rare, often only when the setting is western, and usually some of the other voice actors are fucking terrible.
Have you ever seen Baccano? Its set in 1930s America. The first episode in English has god-awful voices but later you got things like the voice of Lad being so fucking perfect compared to the lazy ass Japanese voice. Prime example.

Dubs aren't for plebs. Subs are for weebs.

Ugly people have ugly voices.

left could produce an army of strong 6'5 broad shoulder children
which is of course the whole point of life

Sadly true

>If you play Stalker or KC:D in it's original language, you're a weeb

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sounds like cope for you closet homosexuality

She's like 40, so no, she couldn't.

she's 27 actually

Dubs for retarded niggers who can't read

It's because most voice directors don't give a shit. Just have them read the line once and call it good. Some VAs are lucky to be given any context for their scenes

yes the point of life is to fuck women who most closely resemble men.

More like dumb people and introverts have ugly voices. A voice is almost never ugly by default, it's ugly because of accent, missing clarity and general pronunciation. Either you use your voice not enough to develop the necessary clarity, a nice ring and proper pronunciation or you're too dumb to learn it automatically.

This is simply proven by the fact that everyone can easily act out a dumb or ugly voice by reducing certain factors like clarity and warping pronunciation on purpose. If you have the necessary skills for good and clear pronunciation it's only a matter of being able to tap into the necessary range and generally being fit for the role.

SMTIV was a surprisingly good dub. Went in expecting to have to turn it off and go for the undub immediately, but the whole thing ended up being of great quality.
Persona on the other hand...

Unionically yes.
The concept of "dub vs. sub" has become a meme. Has been for many years.

Assassin's Creed 2 with the Italian dub and subtitles is a fucking masterpiece.

Dubs are ba-
>m.youtube.com/watch?v=n62sWe1pkLg

Dubs were really awful back in the day and has gotten a lot better.

tangentially related
>voice was always pretty solid, worked on my pacing and removing particular irritating habits
>my jaw rebels against the rest of my body and causes popping, sores, grinding, oversalivation and utterly ruins my previous speaking abilities
why me

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80% of eggs are gone by 30. She's fat, so add that to considering her reduced fertility.
The voice is genetic.

HOY

american dubs are god awful. How can you even live with that?

don't care and wrong

you can tell OP is the exact same faggot making the same thread over and over because he always posts the same two voice actresses in his bait threads. imagine being such a low IQ trog that you have nothing better to do than spam the same shitty troll thread every day

you're a woman? Can we DM?

tfw no Aoi Yuuki gf

The very first minute of smtiv was so bad I wanted to change it, but the rest of the game was pretty good

>t. childless incel freak

Voice is genetic, but speaking is a combination of personality (partially genetic) and learned (very little genetic).

the chad burger versus the femcel nip

Shut the fuck up

>personality (partially genetic)
Mostly genetic.
>learned (very little genetic).
Everything in your environment is a result of the genetics of the humans surrounding you as you develop.

Seriously? That's a hot take since "back in the day" people were kind of split but now any serious community seems to think dubs have become unwatchable. Its probably mostly highschool girls who watch dubs now a days.

Oh yeah the first minute. Forgot about that. I was if it was supposed to sound so stupid or something. I never heard that part in japanese.

Every woman who has ever participated in anything needs to be evaluated for their fappability to NEET incels to define their worth.
(jk, actually it's every woman who has ever existed)

For you.

Why is Japanese so retarded?
>Have two redundant alphabets
>Fucking kanji where each symbol has a dozen different meanings
If not for this shit it wouldn't be harder to learn Japanese than Spanish. America should had forced them to use the white man's alphabet after the WW2.

>gets to be attractive as a man and a woman
>I get neither
How the fuck is this shit fair

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Yeah thats a big NO. Dubs are all fucking trash now.

>The voice is genetic.
Doesn't matter, your natural range is seldom the reason your voice is ugly. I think Michael Jackson's pussy whipped voice when he spoke was ugly, because he was meek and shy he made his natural voice appear like a pussy whipped faggot even though his real natural voice is rather deep and amazing. His shy voice sounds almost like a tranny which is ugly to me. Nevertheless, we all know MJ had an amazing voice.

Same with Britney Spears, she had an amazing deep singing voice but got told to sing higher like a little bitch and ruined her natural voice.

>>Have two redundant alphabets
You're operating from a false premise. Does English have two redundant alphabets?
>>Fucking kanji where each symbol has a dozen different meanings
You don't know how to read.

Michael Jackson and Britney Spears are both physically ugly people and I deny your assertion that they had good voices.

>but now any serious community seems to think dubs have become unwatchable
A result of a very strong anti-dub culture growing out of the era of shitty dubs. A culture that persists and is kept alive by the shitty dubs that do come out once in a while.

Personally I think it's just a matter of language-cringe, or whatever you'd call it. Any dub in my native language would I probably find cringe, but a language that I don't have nearly the same level of familiarity with, such as english, is fine most of the time. A language that I have no familiarity with like Japanese has to be really fucking bad for me to notice any problems, but the same is true for languages like polish, spanish or chinese. The only reason anime and Japanese games might be worse in polish, spanish or chinese is because I'm not used to the words, not because I'd notice flaws in the dubs.

>the shitty dubs that do come out once in a while.
Name five good dubs released in the last five years.

Britney Spears looked amazing, Michael Jackson in full and natural nigger mode was ugly though.

Though one must say that niggers already prove the concept that ugly people have ugly voice wrong. 99% of niggers are ugly as fuck but they have some of the most amazing voices on the planet.

>Mostly genetic
Right. We can agree on that.
>Everything in your environment is a result of the genetics of the humans surrounding you
So it's not your genetics. Doesn't have to be anyway. There's a reason someone from Manchester, London and Bristol all have different ways of talking despite having similar genetics. Or rather, you could raise clones of the same individual in the three environments and they'd end up talking differently.

You can learn both alphabets in a week and kanji is easy, just takes time. Japanese is difficulty (for English speakers to learn) because of its radically different grammar, and all the varying levels of formality

Timbre is genetic, user is right in that we find more aesthetically pleasing certain qualities that are not genetic.

No voice is ugly when singing well, just different.

If dubs are trash now then they have always been.

>Have two redundant alphabets
Literally no different than an entirely new redundant set of capital letters for Latin characters.
>Fucking kanji where each symbol has a dozen different meanings
There's only a few where that applies. It just happens that they tend to be the more used characters.

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not the same person. nose bridge and jawline is different

>Britney Spears looked amazing
I can now safely disregard everything you've typed.
>So it's not your genetics
Who surrounds a human it's entire formative life? People with the same/very similar genes. Multicultural examples you bring up are outliers both historically and contemporarily.

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Are we talking specifically japanese media dubbed in english, or anything dubbed in english?
In any case I'm having a hard time because I don't play games with that much voice acting and not a lot of newer games either.
Besides, I'm only advocating for dubs being not-shit.

Both look pretty bad in those shots desu

Nice job ignoring the rest of my post, retard.

>Cumpton

>Besides, I'm only advocating for dubs being not-shit.
And you're wrong. All dubs are shit.
>I don't play games
Yeah, that much is obvious.

I didn't ignore anything, retard. Learn to read English.

youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4

Mind, he's not just talking about Japanese games. American/Euro games with Asian dubs usually sound off too, especially if the characters are clearly not Asian to begin with.
Now, there are a few exceptions where a dub would make more sense than the original voice track.
Taking the anime Vinland Saga as an example. The setting is Iceland, Denmark and England, but every character speaks clear and fluent Japanese. Now this wouldn't be too jarring since anime characters seldom look like anything but white except when the design specifically calls for it, stereotyped to the extreme being the usual result. However, in this series characters often act as if they speak Icelandish, Danish or English while all talking Japanese with little variation in accent, and cannot understand each other at all. It's pretty hilarious hearing everyone say "I do not understand English." in Japanese and getting a reply in Japanese. A dub would make a lot more sense and be pleasant in this context, giving it were done with some effort.

You have low standards.

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>Persona on the other hand

The only Persona game that had an iffy dub for me was Eternal Punishment and that was par for the course at the time. Everything else was all right.

>And you're wrong. All dubs are shit.
No they aren't.

>Valkyrie Profile
>Shin Megami Tensei IV
>Fire Emblem Echoes
Just to name a few good ones. I could mention a lot more if western-made games with english voice acting was allowed.

>England is multicultural
I mean, it is, but an englishman from Manchester moving to Bristol or London is not an outlier in the last 200 years, perhaps even the last 300.

>unironically being an incel

Anti-dubbing requires being mad at dubs simply for existing, not for being bad.

LET'S POSITIVE THINKING

>No they aren't.
Name five dubs released in the last five years that aren't shit.
>i-i-i don't play video games with voices
Then why are you in this thread, you retarded ESL?
How pronounced is your overbite? Do you even have a chin?

I post pictures of women on trans subreddits and say I started HRT a week ago so they kill themselves faster.

Post face and voice.

Aren't you an original little edgelord. Protip: nobody thinks you're cool.

dial 8

This
Goes for everything, vidya, movies, anime, etc.
The retards who disagree are the same kind of retards who get upset at movies like Roma and Parasite not having some shitty English dub.

>And even if you disregard that, the original audio done by the actual original staff will always be the one to play first.
Just remember that English movies and TV shows are dubbed into other parts of the world and original audio played is always English in those cases.

>female gigachad

MODS=nothing in particular really

cope

how did (you) tripfag anyway