Apocalypse is nigh

Has Merkel tweeted something?

Oh shut up you stupid fucking kike. Yes yes Trump literally said ingest fish tank cleaner literally

I didn't say that negro. I said he said both choroquine and hydroxychloroquine, is it his fault that idiots don't understand fish tank cleaner isn't medical grade shit? no. Is it your fault that you didn't know he talked about both? yes. are you a faggot? yes.

Go lube your ass of for daddy trump more you fucking worthless cunt.

I mean, I do agree with him that there's a ton of fake news around. In fact you would be hard pressed to find any news nowadays that is created from legitimate sources and is actually factual, not just clickbait or attention grabbing dog shit. News outlets are now just spouting bullshit in order to be the first ones with the information out there with no integrity whatsoever.

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He such an imbecile.. god help Americuck.. I bet the country completely fails by year end.

Orange Man Bad! Fake News good!

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I don't know about a cure, but gin makes the symptoms a lot more manageable.

predictions are around 2025. one more term for trump and it's sealed. even if trumps not re-elected america already signed its death warrant

>gin
just about the most disgusting alcoholic drink tbqh

Source- just trust me bro

The death warrant was signed about 40 years ago, we've been on life support ever since. The amount of spending, debt, unfunded obligations, hidden taxes, and cronyism will lead to an economic implosion.

He waited for months before doing anything, actively ignored warnings from experts, downplayed the threat. This is going to wreck his voting base are mostly older people in conservative areas that have reduced medicaid. Obama literally crafted a playbook after H1N1 to help avoid this exact situation.

Trump will go down as the worst president in history, solely because of how he handled this situation.

It's a herbal medicine, of course it tastes fucking horrible. If you want to get drunk you choose something that doesn't taste like ass.

oh wait i was wrong. it was 2020 after all. from a guy who did a writeup of how the soviet union will collapse (and then it did) and when he says america will collapse he doesn't mean it will cease to exist. just collapse in the sense that it will become another tin pot dictatorship
“The collapse has two faces,” Dr Galtung told the tech news site, “Other countries refuse to be good allies and the USA has to do the killing themselves, by bombing from high altitudes, drones steered by computer from an office, special forces killing all over the place.

"Both are happening today, except for Northern Europe, which supports these wars, for now. That will probably not continue beyond 2020, so I stand by that deadline.”

he's a god

i actually did lol at "or maybe the Virus is just plain beating them up."

he is a shitty president but his trolling is on a whole other level.

>He waited for months before doing anything,
He shut downs flights from China, and got called a racist by the same people who are now claiming he didn't do anything.

This is why nobody pays attention to your screeching any more. It's been 5 years of crying wolf.

>denouncing misinformation is bad

Retard

its like hitler saying genocide is bad. doesn't carry the same weight when someone like that is saying it you know?

Don't forget that the federal government is actively bidding against, or outright confiscating supplies goes to states.

Americans need to realise their government is just an extension of them, not some elite to aspire to. These aren't people in a different class, just people with a different occupation. They have no more right to anything that you or I do.

Top kek

Yeah about 2 months after it was a problem, and didn't do anything else. Didn't order ventilators, didn't prep a pandemic team, nothing. If this happened to Obama, conservatives would be saying it's a disaster and would be right.

He did it in January, the virus wasn't even identified until December. And you're right, he didn't prep much. But neither did the either Western world. So you're holding him to an impossibly high standard. Not to mention the countries that did successfully contain the disease didn't take any of those measures -- Tawain was the example we should have followed. The real shame of this is that the news from Taiwan was suppressed because of the machinations of China.

This is why nobody listens to your screeching anymore. You've been crying wolf nonstop for half a decade.

>either
entire

Taiwan, South Korea and Germany had great responses and were prepared. Trump sat with his thumb up his ass when there was already infected people in the US at the time he blocked people who visited China.

He simply didn't do enough and a large part of that was removing the pandemic team Obama set up. He didn't listen to advisors who told him how serious it was. He rejected tests from WHO deciding to make our own. This isn't an impossible standard when other countries were able to treat it seriously.

The reason it is so bad in America right now is solely his fault because of his lack of action. We aren't even through the worst of it yet, the next 2 weeks will be rough. It will continue spreading through rural areas that simply do not have the ability to handle it.

Here in Brazil the hospitals that are using chloroquine have almost zero deaths and are discharging people from ICU in 4 days. Now they are providing the medicine on the second day of serious symptoms (breathing 22x per minute) and people are not even getting hospitalized. Just google "prevent senior São Paulo" and "Sancta Maggiore Hospital" and get a translation on line.

I agree

Advertising is way down because nobody is in business but yeah they both blow as media outlets

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italy got it bad, first in western world.
death was already around and he was still blatering his retarded just a flu shit.
add to that the lack of healthcare to low class citizens and you got the US disaster.
dude, he fucked up exactly how everybody with a working brain knew he would.
same thing happened to the trump wannabe in uk.
just a flu, herd immunity, etc.
they sold people health for economy and stock markets.

if thats all you take away from it, you are wrong with this statement.

God this guy is a dolt

the problem is that people who listen to him ARE this stupid and should therefore not be allowed to vote.

You missed Singapore and Hong Kong.

5 countries in the entire world. Or 4, because Germany doesn't really belong on the list; being better than Italy or Spain isn't the same as success. And those 4 countries all had experience with earlier pandemics, and their societies that are highly obedient and conformist. Things that the Western world completely lacked.

Also, Trump didn't remove the pandemic team, that's just a blatant lie. The source of that claim is an opinion piece in the Washington Post, who just 3 days later later posted a piece from the guy who was actually in charge of the pandemic team, saying that was completely untrue. In other words, they almost immediately recanted the original claim.
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/16/no-white-house-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/

And it was the CDC who decided to make their own tests in house. Trump didn't override them, but he was quite literally following the advice of the experts. And it's even worse than you stated -- the reason the US failed in testing wasn't just because they didn't buy tests from the WHO or South Korea, but because the CDC insisted on doing it in house. Which is just colossal statist arrogance, because the CDC doesn't usually make these kinds of tests. The expertise for that is in private labs around the country, who not only were banned by the FDA from even working on a solution, but when one lab came up with their own test, they were told by the government to cease and desist.

You're getting better, but you're still seeing this through a partisan lens. Trump certainly screwed a few things up -- his messaging was terrible, for instance. But he also did a few things right, like banning flights from China very early on, and later switching his messaging to taking the virus more seriously. Even more things were beyond his control or left to experts, who screwed up. His response is mixed.

>That will show those nasty liberals!

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>"apocalypse is nigh"
>being retarded and brain fucked by Islam / Christianity / Judaism enough to actually believe this shit.
Neck yourself, faggot.

You're literally a fucking idiot and it's painful that you're allowed to vote.

Do you realise that the more the economy tanks, the more people die from all sorts of things including the virus?

I don't even support Trump but please stay home on Election Day; you are the problem with democracy and it's embarrassing.

For less partisan take, see.

>Do you realise that the more the economy tanks, the more people die from all sorts of things including the virus?
This is the reality. Since the virus wasn't contained, we're left with terrible choice. We can heroically save lives, and by by doing so kill and hurt a lot of people. Or we can let people get back to work, and kill and hurt a lot of people.

The idea that this is a simple choice between heroically saving lives and doing nothing, and that anyone who opposes doing the right thing is a monster, is just nonsense.

what a great system this economy must be if it immediately crumbles when facing a 2 month pause. if only the government were prepared for this kind of situation by providing social security to people in need and not suck corporation dick.

It carries plenty of weight. Trump is constantly under attack for bogus reasons. That’s not to say he isn’t guilty of hyperbole or bullshit occasionally.

maybe more should have been done to contain the virus instead of letting get bad enough you had to create this scenario. not only is letting the virus spread fucking stupid that gives it more chance to become a normal yearly thing like the flu but i can't stress this enough 20x more deadly. how would like to start with 1/50 chance to die every year with it only getting worse as you get older

new york times is a poor media outlet. not even a trumptard, somewhere in the middle, and nyt along with cnn and msnbc are not good. they make fox news look good. yes, they deserved that.

yea i can 't believe someone sued him for scamming people with a school. or attacking him for bankrupting 3 casinos. or embezzling funds from a veterans charity he made

>all had experience with earlier pandemics, and their societies that are highly obedient and conformist. Things that the Western world completely lacked.

That's false, we had several outbreaks and the fact that we saw it happening on large scale in other countries means we should have been prepared for that

>Also, Trump didn't remove the pandemic team, that's just a blatant lie

It was reported in 2018
"The abrupt departure of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer from the National Security Council means no senior administration official is now focused solely on global health security. Ziemer’s departure, along with the breakup of his team, comes at a time when many experts say the country is already underprepared for the increasing risks of a pandemic or bioterrorism attack."
washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/05/10/top-white-house-official-in-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/

id still prefer an economic crisis, which, as history has shown people will recover from. the alternative is a collapse of the whole health sector, which is evidence for a failed country.

Social security is for the elderly, how would that help with a work stoppage? They're retired, not working.

And social security is a large part of what caused the problem in the first place. People used to have money saved to help tide them over a crisis, and used to save for retirement. Nobody does that anymore, because they expect the government to take care of it for them. And the government has stretched itself so thin by making more and more unsustainable promises, that not only do they have no money left, but they've stolen the money of the people who dared to save by debasing the money supply, and they've borrowed and borrowed from future generations. The economy is a house of cards, ready to fall, because the government has been on an insane spending spree.

Which is what the right wing would have you believe. That somehow the economic consequences could be worse than the virus projections, which are now 50,000 dead minimum by the end of next month. Maximum, 136,000. Most likely, 81,000. All based on maintaining social distancing.

So no, this isn't a case of comparing deaths from an economic downturn with deaths from the virus, not even close.

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>Social security is for the elderly
lol no

not disagreeing. but define what you mean by not good. because you cant seriously be blind to fox news just sucking up to trump.

>leader of the free world
>free world

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even medical doses can kill people. China had many patients die from complications of the drug.

Are you ?

You sound just as thick. Do you understand how globalisation works? "Containment" was never viable, the economies of the US and Western Europe are to interconnected with that of China.

By "letting the virus spread" I presume you mean prioritising herd immunity. This is viable, and is rightly the long-term goal of every government contending with the virus. The science is clear. However, allowing the virus to spread would come at such an enormous short term cost, in the form of an unprecedented tidal wave of resource burden on hospitals etc, that the healthcare system would essentially collapse. That risk is the same in countries with socialised healthcare systems, too. So it cannot be prioritised right now. Herd immunity must be pursued in slower time.

Fucking hell why is it always liberals, people on MY side of the argument, who are always so desperately stupid about things like this?

Name any system in the world which would not be severely hampered if virtually all economic activity was suspended for 2 months.

You can't. Fuck off.

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No, that wasn't going to happen. Look, I've worked in planning and preparedness, and participated in a national pandemic drills, starting well over a decade ago. The conclusion of everyone involved is that the public simply wasn't prepared.

Pandemics grow exponentially. That means you need to react immediately, and with very strong measures. It requires shutting down the borders, massive spending on testing to identify every person with the disease and then tracing down every last one of their the contacts and testing them and their contacts and as well, and then enforcing a quarantine.

That's a massive mobilization, a significant infringement of civil rights, and a major hit to trade, and the only way it will work is you do it immediately, when there is only a tiny number of cases.

But in the West, we've had no experience with this kind of thing for over a 100 years. There was no will, no public mandate. There was no way it was going happen. This entire pandemic has been a learning experience, teaching public, government officials, and even the experts in pandemics, what exactly we need to do. We'll have the public mandate next time, but there was no way it was going to happen the first time.

Bullshit

>prioritising herd immunity
you stupid fuck. herd immunity is a term for VACCINATIONS. there is no vaccine right now you dense cunt. absolute fucking retard i can't believe you could figure out how type out shit this retarded

this

>people used to have money saved to help them over a crisis
and you think that is possible for how many people today? the economy pretty much runs on people spending allmost everything they earn in a month in the same month. The way this capitalistic system is build it pretty much uses almost everyone as a breaking point to keep the richest ones in their ivory towers safe.

Sorry, meant to say is thick.

this guy is taking sense.

No, I'm only the second poster.

The rest of the shit you posted has nothing to do with me. I just posted this, for instance

>blames the public

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