They very concept of identity, in any way, shape, or form, is fucking gay and retarded. Prove me wrong, faggots

They very concept of identity, in any way, shape, or form, is fucking gay and retarded. Prove me wrong, faggots

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The ability to identify stems from identity.
One does what One is.

>They
Wtf?

Or is it the act of calling out your identity that's gay and retarded

Thus, identity can be formed from identifying.

Defining the self is extremely difficult, because it's a consciousness doing the defining, but the consciousness can't adequately explain what it even is.

that was an accident. I'm not trans or fluid whatever, after all, that would be an identity

>Prove me wrong
>me
You're right, OP.

As always, OP identifies as a faggot.

ooooh, you've given me food for thought here

when I try, I very easily am seduced by solipsism

Not an SJW, still your opinion is as dumb as theirs.
Your identity is your way of perceiving yourself.
Your goals, your motivations, your principles and your values. Your way of telling the world who you are and what you believe in.
And ofc there are hypocrits. People that steal can claim to be no thiefs as much as they want, but at the end of the day that's still what they are.

identity politics on the other hand are truly bullshit. Because not only do they falsely equal identity, sex and sexuality, but they make demands to the general public to accept statements about yourself as gospel truth.

you can insist on being female all day long, but if you're born a man, it's anybodies right to disagree with you. Ofc nobody can force you to accept that you're a man, but on the other side of the medal, you can't force anyone to accept you as female, either.

We all have the right to freely express ourselves, and while that means there are no barriers to declare yourself as another sex, there are also no barriers for disagreeing with you.

People who want to outlaw our ability to perceive and describe our world freely, erode the very concept of free expression, by creating a fundamentally flawed victim mentality.
It is impossibly to stop someone from victimizing themself, hence it is impossible to satisfy their demands, since they can - and will - always move the goal post.
And if a task is impossible to complete, the wisest choice is to not attempt to.

Identity politics is the despcable agenda of taking people with real mental issues, spanning them in front of this agendas' cart with lies about oppression, and using them as scapegoat to gain political power over what is allowed to be tought, taught, and spoken. It is predatory and nothing but a huge scam, commited by those who seek to ride this bandwagon as horsecart into controlling positions of society at large.
It is no suprise, nor coincidence that socialism is so popular amongst these people, too.

I guess my shit was made for this thread:

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Identity is a vessel capable of exchanging elements.

Self is an irreducible language attached to each vessel that is the only persistent memory that carries between isolation, interaction with other, and conscious inclusion.

YAAAAAAAAAAAY WORDS!

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Don't even have to get to solipsism. Even before addressing whether you are the only conscious entity or not, you must first figure out what makes you "you"? Consider the famous teleporter thought experiment. Is the guy who comes out of the teleporter different from the guy who went in?

What is the desired conclusion from this digestion of self?

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you guessed wrong

thank FUCK I still enjoy endurance training as I constantly wade through the eternal mire of self-important audiences and their observation never really having value as a language or impact as an existence

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How is identity gay? Am low iq pls explain

not gonna lie, that guy looks and sounds gay as fuck.
had to laugh when this nu-male declared himself a martial arts master and called for violence against oppinions he doesn't like.

>what makes you "you"

ultimately nothing, once you start digging. at most, an idea of a "creative nothing" in the sense of Stirner, but really not even that

>Is the guy who comes out of the teleporter different from the guy who went in?
Sure he is, but he's just as much of a nothing from a starting point. And even without the teleporter, you could apply that to complete cell regeneration every 7 to 10 years

I agree with the existentialist idea that existence precedes essence, it's just that all essences can be reduced to nothing quite easily.

I may not be articulate enough to express properly what I really mean here, and I am willing to condede this

a) you posted this picture because you genuinely believe it offends normal people
b) you posted this picture because you are a troll, already realized that it just makes normal peoplelaugh at faggots, and currently try to play reverse psychology to make them look as bad as possible.

anyways, thx for the laugh.

That, like free will, the idea of self is simultaneously difficult to demonstrate rationally or empirically, but is subjectively extremely compelling. It makes drawing any solid conclusions very frustrating.

oh lol, this is comedy gold.
Is this idiot for real?

Oh shit, a talking fish! Thank fuck achieving a transcendent level of bait and self-satisfaction is literally as easy as realizing that no identity or memory ultimately survives internal redirects or expectations transforming awareness of self into a unique language.
>Human language basically needs a time limit per interaction to prevent people from being able to just convince others to do menial tasks while they engage in elongated word play.

I posted the picture for attention in order to need summon this interaction. Not rocket science. Women been using it to dominate men. Once you step around men being all 'ho ho ho I'm so cool' and dismissive it is fairly easy to see that their ego's are easy to side-step or exhaust, which makes for great training.

It's like people genuinely are unable to interpret or validate information provided to them or somehow believe that their first interpretation is what will ultimately be rendered as true for all others.

Is the fact that it frustrates you the pleasure of the thing?

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>YAAAAAAAAAAAY WORDS!
let me quote you:
>thank FUCK I still enjoy endurance training as I constantly wade through the eternal mire of self-important audiences and their observation never really having value as a language or impact as an existence

>you could apply that to complete cell regeneration every 7 to 10 years
A confounding aspect to this is that neurons do not normally regenerate. So it may be that continuity of consciousness is in fact dependent on continuity of biological hardware, even allowing for the broad definitions of personal identity that we use in general practice.

Yes, the internet is a digital masturbation device for language and ego shells that believe that their memories are somehow enriched through the experience and interaction. I am surprised this is new information to anyone other than myself.

YAY WORDS!

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>Your goals, your motivations, your principles and your values.

Aaaaaand what if I have none of these. Or at best, they are fluid and change daily, if not hourly.

>what you believe in.
aaaaaaaand it's of course edgefag and fedora as hell to say this, but what if I come up nil here as well?

so, you are a shell of an ego, or why exactly did you self inject?

>Women been using it to dominate men.
Soo... You're an incel?

I was atomized in the teleporter. Someone else was born in the transporter bay of the Enterprise.

I agree. Thank fuck everything on the internet these days is just government psyops and artificial intelligence herding weaker intellects towards task-dependent scheduling.

More that I am a unique origin point of patience and persistence that mulches through human feedback in order to see what parts of the language and self are actually relevant to retain. Most people need to undergo their safe steps or be in their safe spaces before they engage some integration process. I just do it actively and mid-exchange.

Whatever makes you happy, Sir. Can see when a guy has engaged his ego a mile away. Have at it, captain.

>Aaaaaand what if I have none of these. Or at best, they are fluid and change daily, if not hourly.
Since no statement of permanence was made, nothing changes about the statement.

> but what if I come up nil here as well?
belief is not inherently religious.
you can think of all kinds opf things as being true.
If you have no way of proving it objectively, it's a belief.
Mathematically it's almost impossible that we're the only sapient form of life in the universe. But since we have no way of comfirming this implication, it's a belief.
And I can assure you, there are thousands of things you believe in, rather than being able to prove it.

got any substantial to say, or is word vomit your preffered method of inflating your ego?

stronk warrior is a total retard, please give me your reasons why identity
>is fucking gay and retarded

even though i don't quite understand you, i'll put my two cents in. if you think it's retarded and don't want an identity, then your identity would be not having an identity. another example of this is that if you don't like wearing clothes, then your sense of style would be not wearing clothes (also known as liking being nude). in other words, if you don't want an identity, you still have one.
(though i would say that a man trying to find out how to debunk identity makes for a pretty good story, greentext or otherwise.)

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>there are thousands of things you believe in
the only one i can think of is the impermanece and uncertainty of things.

you can do the ol' "here is a hand, and here is another" classic argument but i wouldn't even go that far.

That's not what you said when you came out of the teleporter. You said it worked flawlessly, and that you feel the same as usual.

so, does it all boil down to that you don't like the word "belief" because it comes with a baggage of religious context?
fine, I don't mind.
replace it with "things that you perceive as true/valid"

>That not what you
That's not me. It's me-adjacent, and I'd be proud to call it, him, me. You have no choice but to call him by my name, to expect of him what you expect of me.

But that's not me. And he similarly knows that the next time he steps into the transporter, it won't be him coming out.

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So weird to see sapiosexuals fight through language redirect and expatiation.

Why would I bother attempting to streamline some communication trunk between us when you believe that ego is something I am able to identify, let alone directly inflate? If only public media had taught the public that argumentation and refutation are no match for simply exhausting a given audience's attention span either through 'word vomit', extensive response sets, a gross lack of interest in actually curating any ego other than the one I stipulated in my Intro where I genuinely challenge spirituality and all that faggotry to actually help out or be meaningful for a change.

Or ya know I just this to fuck kids and do whatever in public. Always one part of the job that ain't glamorous.

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>then your identity would be not having an identity

agreed, to an extent. because once I have the identity i no longer am a non-identity and it would repeat and repeat and repeat, like the uroborus that eats it's own tail, but made out of semantics

That's a weird way to describe an off-by-one error.

well, in that case, you can't identify us as faggots.

>he similarly knows that the next time he steps into the transporter, it won't be him coming out.
What is the difference between the two?

Then you're a semantic pleasure vessel that requires external audits in order to establish sufficient points of inference so others can easier translate you or interact/promote with your existing preference set.

Cool.

In my case? Yes. Without subscribing to a description service no predicate can be provided for distribution.

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>trying this hard to sound smart
kek
I'd be fine with pointing out all the causaly broken links you made, but it would go under in the white noise anyways, so I'll allow you to continue your existence undisturbed, and able to ridicule yourself some more for the delight of others.

well i have issues with 'certainty'
or even the idea of 'probably', as i have no way of knowing whether or not my consciousness well cease to exist in two seconds, or whether anything that i feel i may 'know' will become something completely different in two seconds, something entirely alien, and with zero explanation/logical foundation/etc

this is a bit sideways from what I was getting at in the OP though, however, the limits of language and such...

>fuck kids and do whatever in public
you definitely shouldn't do that in public

For starters, there are legitimately 2 things. 2 distinct things. 2 bodies, made of atoms- that were never the same to begin with. The only thing that's preserved, plausibly, is information. Brain states, data regarding the states of the atoms that make up my body, and that's it. Temperature, spin, binding energy, nothing else.

I go in. I get vaporized. I stop existing as "me" at that exact moment. Information is beamed to another machine. Energy is converted into mass, according to specific parameters. A thing takes form. It's physically identical to me- save for the fact that it was never the thing that got vaporized, nor is it literally in the exact point in space and time where I was, when I'd last existed. By all accounts, it's not me. It's like me. It remembers what I do, will react like I would, and even bleed like I would. But, it's not me. It was born in the transporter bay.

It merely inherited my qualities. It's a copy. And soon, it'll be a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy.

What would you do if faggots start to argue semantics instead of content?

Based and rped

You are alone there, pal.
Unless you are an angsty teen, most people are pretty set in their ways and require a good amount of convincing to budge.

sure, makes them less flexible, but also more reliable. Everything has its pros and cons.

Having an identity for your self is like favoriting a color.

>Unless you are an angsty teen, most people are pretty set in their ways
i'm 39 and feel less and less certain of anyting as time progresses. the derealization gets real.

drugs?

IDENTITY = EVALUATION ÷ PRIORITY

*bathes in the ego of exclusion* audience of exclusion is, as always, a guaranteed. So long as YOU feel like you've TRULY done all you could do to HELP or be a consciously aware human, please also kick me in the teeth and allow me to offer my tongue as toilet paper for your exclusive use!
>Yes, class. The men of the general public have genuinely gotten this easy to direct into thinking they are still masters of their own story.

You'd be amazed at how little society cares about what anyone else does anymore these days, or not. The chain event of virgin moments that would be needed to exhaust the surprise would probably be seen more as a mockery of your perspective of reality up until this point, identity

What's the fucking difference if I'm not joining in masturbating over minutea? None of you humans implement anything outside your preferred echo chambers or safe spaces. Been doing this shit for a while now. Hoping someone actually suicide bombs me allah akbar style because humanity ain't got anything interesting left in it. Thought I'd see which religions/spiritually chooses to kill me first to increase their follower base.

Technically humans don't really vet language or even bother thinking beyond their initial pattern match and simply fill in the gaps with ego, their or others.

Exhausting the audience of exclusion.

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No straight up agree with you op

Defining yourself puts you in a box and is fucking stupid

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qko8rbhFAWg

i did do a lot of acid between ages 13-15...then stopped. some mushrooms now and then every few years since, but not often. weed more frequently but not that frequent, and it's actually been awhile, maybe a year or so?

of course there was the coke and heroin binge from age 27-29 but if anything, those reinforce certainty.

>IDENTITY = EVALUATION ÷ PRIORITY
And this is why people laugh about SJW's.

Did you actually got into student debt for getting fed this bullshit, or are you some kind of guru, who came up with it?

if anything, those reinforce brain damage.
at least I understand why you are this fucked up now.
Got any mental health counselor or other - proffesional - people to help you?
Cause you sounds like prime cult material.