Is anyone else furious about the CDC and WHO misleading the public about the airborne nature of the coronavirus and the efficacy of masks?
>60 people without symptoms go to choir practice in Washington state >45 end up getting infected Yeah, totally not airborne
>1 infected person attends a funeral in Georgia and 20 people end up leaving with it Nope. Not airborne.
Then there's this gem that they've been spouting from day 1... >Masks aren't effective. You don't need them, citizens! >don't buy them because healthcare workers NEED THEM Totally not airborne, guys
You have no idea regarding the details of the exposure. If one of those choir members coughed or sneezed, the droplets could have infected those people.
Your "fury" toward the CDC and WHO is silly and if you're truly this angry, you must have a wonderful imagination.
Isaiah Hill
That's terrible, but fuck China the most for living like filthy insects and fucking over the entire goddamn world. Thanks China!!!! Thanks for valuing your pride over the entirety of the human race and trying to cover up the existence of the virus, and allowing 5 million Chinese to flee Wuhan before locking it down. We should praise their swift response!
Camden Foster
>not airborne
Aerosol idiot.
Michael Bennett
Masks aren't effective. You wearing a mask while checking the mail or shopping at a grocery store maintaining a 6+ foot distance from people literally does nothing.
Healthcare workers need the masks more because they have to be in very close contact with confirmed infected people.
Mason Hall
>You have no idea regarding the details of the exposure The report highlighted that no one was experiencing symptoms. I would think that at least one person would remember someone coughing or sneezing.
In fact, there was a study done that involved a group of office workers in Germany who all got infected. They all remembered one single sneeze during a meeting.
>Your "fury" toward the CDC and WHO is silly and if you're truly this angry, you must have a wonderful imagination The fact that you're making excuses for their incompetence and irresponsible messaging is what's silly.
Elijah Powell
>Masks aren't effective Right. That must be why they're finally recommending that everyone wears masks when they go out.
Hudson Martin
LOL yeah, because during a several-hour long event you can totally remember a cough, someone clearing their throat, or talking (singing) near you and they spit small droplets.
Brayden Myers
Who exactly? Name a single reputable medical organization that recommends this?
Austin Clark
Lololololol someone within the group probably would have recalled a sneeze or coughing.
But no, you're right. Thanks for being the voice of reason, user. Totally not airborne.
Colton Myers
Are you serious? I'm not gonna spoonfeed you, moron. It's been all over the news lately. Google it.
Connor Green
>Totally not airborne
Why conspiracy LARP the 'rona? Is it already not interesting enough for you idiots?
Oliver Jones
Ok Winnie.
Grayson Wood
I googled it, you're the fucking moron. It literally says there's no reason for healthy adults to wear masks outside.
Stop being a coward with a pussy imagination, you pussy.
Luke Allen
Ok, since you ignorant twats are clearly too incompetent to do your own research...
Respiratory infections can be transmitted through droplets of different sizes: when the droplet particles are >5-10 μm in diameter they are referred to as respiratory droplets, and when then are
Keep living in denial, kiddo. Sorry to break it to you, but this shit is much more infectious than the public thought.
David Williams
Exactly... Aerosolization is completely different. Also, masks don't really help the non infected.. That's because the breathing in and out of them causes moisture and it's more likely that the infected droplets will settle on such a surface. Also a mask without goggles is useless, because it's nigh on as likely to get infected through your eyeballs. Wise up
Luis Miller
>LALALALALA IM NOT LISTENING concession accepted
Jayden Cox
Nobody credible is saying this you tard. They recommend SOCIAL DISTANCING.
The masks are only for healthcare workers who deal with the sick at a close distance.
Keeping a safe distance from people is more effective than a mask.
James Lopez
They are trained medical professionals so they know a dust mask is basically only there to make YOU feel better.
I work in the safety industry and I can say not a single employee at our company is using a mask. We all know they are dust masks, nothing more.
The only thing that is effective is a full blown SCBA with full face, positive pressure mask or p100 filters.
All masks and cartridges are single use and you'll probably infect yourself while removing them or storing them in your home.
It disturbs me how uninformed people are about this. Even the first responders we deal with every day have no idea how ineffective these masks are.
That said, wear a mask so you dont cough on shit when you get sick. Thanks.
Those literally prove nothing. The masks are effective only against droplets.
“if people want to wear them, they can.” Literally stated in your article.
Kiddo, nice try little pal
Austin Wood
This even goes against what the CDC has reported. They never thought surface-to-face was the main driver of infections.you don't know what the hell you're taking about
Samuel Reyes
>Keeping a safe distance from people is more effective than a mask. Yeah well guess what bucko? Can't fucking pay for your shit at the store without walking up to the cashier. Asshat.
Logan Davis
All it proved is you're a retard that doesn't know how to research.
Angel Campbell
>Those literally prove nothing. The masks are effective only against droplets Oh, so they're kinda effective? You're getting close, user. Don't stop there.
Also, every single healthcare professional believes the N95 masks are at least somewhat effective, poncho. Stop talking about things you're too dense to understand.
Ryder Turner
If you knew anything about virus transmission, you would know how incredibly remote the odds are that you'd actually catch anything from a 30 second interaction 4-5 feet away from a cashier who isn't coughing.
Pussy ass coward bitch.
Nicholas Reed
>That's because the breathing in and out of them causes moisture and it's more likely that the infected droplets will settle on such a surface
Yes, then you touch or reuse the mask without sterilization and game over
>Also a mask without goggles is useless
Thank you for posting the only useful info in this ass of a thread.
>Nobody credible is saying this you tard Many infectious disease experts are changing their position on it.
>The masks are only for healthcare workers who deal with the sick at a close distance Ok, so they're effective. Got it.
Ryan Mitchell
Reading comprehension, if you read earlier, there is 0 need for a healthy adult to wear a mask that is keeping a safe distance from other people.
Droplets are only a concern if you're within 6 feet of someone. You aren't. Healthcare workers are.
They wear N-95's again because yes, they need them more than you. They aren't some pussy idiot that is paranoid.
Cameron Ortiz
Denial is a helluva thing
This is part of the reason this shit is spreading like wildfire.
Isaiah Rodriguez
A mask and goggles are completely fucking useless cause your ears are still exposed. You need a tyvek suit too. All of which is single use btw. Sterilization isn't approved for disposable PPE.
Kayden Foster
Actually keep living in fear please, I like the lack of traffic and no lines for anything.
It makes me happy that you're so scared.
Elijah Torres
You don't deal with confirmed cases of coronavirus on a daily basis in close proximity, got it. So you don't need a mask, got it.
Cameron Cruz
If you can spread while asymptomatic though, what is the harm in everyone wearing something to help catch the large droplets escaping when you cough? Has to be at least a little effective right?
Connor Collins
>durr how does virus work Why do you think they stress Social Distancing and hand washing so much?You have to be right close to someone to get it from a sneeze or cough. You dumbass.
Brayden Martin
This shit is spreading like wildfire because people AREN'T STAYING THE FUCK HOME AND AWAY FROM OTHERS. Doesn't matter the small particulars of the spread vector if every asshat out there is treating this like vacation time.
Cooper Lewis
If there wasn't a massive shortage then sure! In the mean time, stay home and you have 0 reason for a mask.
Oliver Wilson
I didn't know Jude Law was so buff. He must lift a lot.
Jose Gray
>if you read earlier, there is 0 need for a healthy adult to wear a mask that is keeping a safe distance from other people And I'm saying IT'S A FUCKING LIE. It's OBVIOUSLY a lie when you look at the R0 rate and certain studies of clusters. Get your head out of you fucking ass
>Droplets are only a concern if you're within 6 feet of someone Wrong... again. Studies have shown that the droplets can travel much farther. But I'm not gonna link any more studies for babby, do you're on you're own.
>They wear N-95's again because yes, they need them more than you Everyone needs then, you dense cunt. That's gonna be a big part of how we flatten the curve
Jose Ortiz
Ive been driving around like this..mostly because its funny and freaks people out...Plus better safe than sorry
>Why do you think they stress Social Distancing and hand washing so much? Uhh because they're full of shit. According to Michael Osterholm (one of the leading infectious disease experts in the world) hand-washing probably doesn't do much. He also believes it has a higher airborne nature than preciously reported.
Denial. Helluva thang.
Liam Anderson
I dont know why this posted sideways
Parker White
Thank god, I don't need any more of your opinion pieces lmfao
Good, let's prioritize paranoid cocksucking pussies like you over actual healthcare workers. Let's get you one right away.
Jason Sanders
> kiddo? bucko? babby?
Who the fuck talks like this other than unemployed Trump Boomers? Get off the internet grandpa.
Charles Wood
This guy gets it
He may look retarded, but it's people like him who are gonna slow the spread.
Alexander Ortiz
lol you people are so fucking bored
Dylan Gray
Your odds of catching COVID in most states is less than a thousandth of a percent still.
Oliver Baker
>Opinion pieces Yeah, opinion pieces that contain opinions of medical professionals who know a hell of a lot more about this shit than we do.
>Good, let's prioritize paranoid cocksucking pussies like you over actual healthcare workers Did I say anything about prioritizing anyone? Dumbfuck Donnie needs to put into effect the full power of the DPA so we don't have to worry about shortages. Lyin' Don should have done it a while ago.
Dylan Diaz
Jackie Chan says to wear a mask it's good enough for me
Yep,thats why I started rocking my gas mask...small fucking town, and everythings closed..best way to entertain myself is drive up next to people at red lights and just look over and stare at them lol
Liam Perez
Masks aren't effective in protecting yourself from getting this virus. Wearing a mask is about protecting other people from you if you are infected. That is the only direction of transmission where masks are necessary for the vast majority of the population.
Alexander Ortiz
You can literally go on the WHO website and read that they say masks are not that effective. Meaning that there is some protection.
Hudson Cox
yes, if you dont know you are infected, it better than nothing. but if you wear while somebody around you is infected, it does not help. (also Im not same guy you were talking to)
Lucas Jenkins
I can get 10 doctors to say you, as a healthy adult, don't need a mask.
Oh man, I wish you were the president, I'm sure you could instantly activate DPA and overnight, all 8 billion people would have enough N-95s to last a lifetime.
Politicians, the WHO, and CDC know a hell of a lot more than what you read about on CNN.
Luke Nelson
Jesus why would they need it if it doesn't work dumbass. You are the worst kind of idiot. A verbose idiot.
Jackson Smith
also, what most people do not talk about: In Germany (Gerfag) many people rarely wear masks. Now many of them try to wear them. People usually drag them up and down and touch their faces afterwards. In this case it is useless or even dangerous. It makes usually sense if you live in a very big city and know that you should never touch your fucking face or play with the mask around. thank you for your attention!
Aaron Howard
>I can get 10 doctors to say you, as a healthy adult, don't need a mask Uhh ok. And they'd probably be basing it on the fact that healthy people generally don't get very sick.
>Oh man, I wish you were the president, I'm sure you could instantly activate DPA and overnight Oh boy oh boy, there's no reason he couldn't have signed it into effect sooner. He's been dragging his feet since the beginning.
>Politicians, the WHO, and CDC know a hell of a lot more than what you read about on CNN And there it is >durrr I bet you watch CNN >CNN sucks big time >Stop watching CNN
The WHO has ties to Beijing, and the CDC has been consistently wrong throughout this entire ordeal.
Caleb Perry
Fatty remover. I'm fine with it.
Ian Adams
Yes, because that is correct, healthy people generally don't get very sick.
And how do you know? There's probably all sorts of reasons. He's one of the most informed people in the world. Regardless of if you like him or not. His intelligence briefings are much more accurate than yours.
And the WHO and CDC are less wrong than you are.
Anthony Evans
Not furious because they're incompetent. I already told everyone that they should've declared emergency early this year in January. They fucked up bad.
I already knew masks were effective after doing some background research.
CDC and WHO are useless to civilians.
Logan Taylor
>Yes, because that is correct, healthy people generally don't get very sick Right, but they can spread it very easily. Try using all 5 of your brain cells and think harder.
>He's one of the most informed people in the world Jesus fucking Christ, man. You can't be serious.
It's a shame Dumbfuck Don is unreasonable and doesn't listen to the experts as much as he should.
Way to lose all credibility with this statement, user.
>And the WHO and CDC are less wrong than you are I'm not basing my judgements solely on personal research of raw data. I'm basing it on a number of studies and scientists outside of those organizations have concluded.
Just go bury your head back in the sand.
Kevin Bell
The RKI also does not suggests to wear masks, except for asymptotic reasons combined with usage of public transportation or overcrowded places. There may be ties to Bejing, but that does not make them wrong on everything ..