Which makes more sense to you, National Socialism or Communism?

Why not just resort to pirates code?
Take what you can, and give nothin back

None of this shitty options

this is the truth

democracy

>poor man's zionism vs humankind as brotherhood
requires to be an animal to like NS

A semi-free market who's governing power takes care of the downtrodden funded by heavy taxes on both the rich and the poor scaled to income.

communism, if I had to pick

none

why are some comments highlighted green?

because it's saint patrick's day, retard

HULK mode

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Niggers

>Brainlets and porkies
So you mean all we'd have to do to get the communist utopia we want is kill them or throw them in gulags?

the one that can last more than 10 years :^)

the more toxic the comment the deeper the green

National socialism is fascism, and a contradiction in terms

real socialism is best, objectively

Worthless utopianism. The modern state is controlled by the capitalists to pursue their own interests at the expense of society. Any concession given to the working people by the ruling elite of the rich is only granted under pressure, and will only exist until the capitalists find a moment to dismantle it, every right won by the working class starts fading away the very day after it is won.
What people call "crony capitalism" is nothing but the logical conclusion of the free market system. At the end of the day only a single class can rule, either the workers or the capitalists.
According to Mao's "On resolving the contradiction within the people", we need to convince the first and gulag the later.

thats socialism, faggot

oh fuck i can't believe norway is a failed state because it uses socialism

That's socialism only in the loosest of definitions. Social-democracy is a more exact term.
Honestly using the world "socialism" is pretty much meaningless unless one defines the terms under he is talking because socialism can mean a large range of political movements going back to the Conspiracy of Equals in XVIII France, from simply European welfare state capitalism to revolutionary anarchosyndicalism.

Extermination is extermination, though. Maoism, for example, didn't mean to starve all those people it just actually failed. Communism seems to become corrupt not through ideology but the people who administer it, communism is ruined by what Nietzsche called the will to power and what Stirner would have regarded simply as the individual existing. To work I think communism would have to be administrated by a strong AI against which there could be no manipulation or subterfuge. We would have to give the world to a machine mother.

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>worthless utopianism
I was answering a question, nigger, i know its a futile idea.

>its not socialism because it works

Being ashamed and not taking pride in your own race, and to say "as a white person" gives me NPC/Kike vibes. You need to visit a NatSoc Thread my friend, very friendly if you're willing to ask questions on Yas Forums and are willing to show you what it's all about to be proud of ones race and to vanquish those who wish to see you and your people killed.
SEIG HEIL FUCK KIKES LOVE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS

national socialism is an ideology that at its core is about trying to turn back the clock of history by tricking the working people into believing that they actually want to be dumb illiterate peasants fucked over by the rich and powerful

communism acknowledges the advancements made in production due to industrialization and that while the world has not yet achieved post-scarcity of resources, future advancements will continue to bring us closer and that the modern feudalism of "I own the land therefore I get all the profits" is untenable

Whichever benefits your people - ideology for the sake of ideology is retarded and a sign of being an uprooted husk. But generally communism is rarely to the benefit of a people, unless it is the sole people participating.

Oh, I'm on your side at this point, but also surrounded by people who don't realize multiculturalism has fully failed. In your canon the entire idea was a scam but I'm still sad we live in forever race war instead of, well, not.

Look at them, though. There can be no peace with this sort walking the earth.

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Many economic systems can "work". Hungarian kádarism worked well, so did Soviet planning (until politicians started "liberalizing"). Even today China is the fastest growing economy in the world. Cuba has the highest standard of living in it's region.
All of this economic systems are "socialist" in one way or another, and all of them "work" despite being different. Just saying that X or Y works doesn't solve anything, you could ask a Roman and he would say that slavery worked just fine.
>Maoism, for example, didn't mean to starve all those people it just actually failed.
While the loss of life in the Great Leap Forward is regretable, the old tripe about how "Mao killed millions" is pure propaganda. The Chinese people died of hunger by the millions for centuries, neither the dynasties or the Republic put an end to crisis of starvation. Socialism did, nobody dies of hunger in China now, and nobody died already back in the sixties when the growth developed thanks to industrial planning and collectivization of agriculture. Not even the current pro-capitalist leadership in the CPC denies this.
>administrated by a strong AI against which there could be no manipulation or subterfuge
Nonsense, advanced economic and planning can already be archived today in a democratic way using existing computer technologies common in every household.
Just read Cockshot.

>The Chinese people died of hunger by the millions for centuries

That's patently absurd, that's not a mathematically sustainable phenomenon, it implies they breed faster than they die. For this to be true Chinamen would have to be genderless Tribbles who are born pregnant.

You're a sorry propagandist, I'm off to have a drink on my deck because the bar is closed thanks to some very alive Chinamen and their bullshit.

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>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines_in_China
>This is a list of famines in China. Between 108 BC and 1911 AD, there were no fewer than 1828 recorded famines in China, or once nearly every year in one province or another. The famines varied in severity.[1][2]
Feels < reals

endemic famine is the natural state of the preindustrial agricultural society
humanity can learn to live with anything, If losing half of all children before adulthood wasn't enough to kill them off

Communism because I'm not a brainlet.
Pic related is typical Yas Forumstard

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You deserve Communism.

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Capitalism with regulation sounds pretty good.

You'll be the smartest guy in the rubber boot factory.

Which ideology of communism? State socialism, anarchism, etc.?

If anarchism, communism, definitely.

wtf dude anarchism has absolutely nothing to do with communism

user, take the marxist-pill
I'm no anarchist, but to be fair Anarchism was one of the major tendency in the I International.

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You sheep always get defensive when someone who actually knows what the fuck they are talking about starts actually teaching you shit. LEARN something for once, for fucks sake.

if I had tho choose then communism makes more sense because you would want everyone to be ok but that's never the case and both fail horribly in reality but it's not like that matters at all because we're stuck with corporativism which if you ask me while giving you more sensation of freedom is actually worse than both of those because it's blatantly hipocritical but at least is more than truthful to the human spirit.

I just find cringe to be proud of something you didn't achieve of something you just were born with.

Capitalism

Yes it does, dumbass, anarchism was called "communism" before state socialism was even invented. Lrn2history
(Or "ourstory" as we would have you call it).

I like Marx, but I disagree with his solutions, which have empirically failed. Anarchism has empirically been successful in achieving true communism, see: revolutionary Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War. A short victory that was helped ended by the dumbass Nazis, btw.

>fell apart so quickly
That'll happen when the entire world goes to war with you and your allies are italy and fucking japan.

Socialism seems to be an easier path for capitalism to move onto. Not like the socialism the libtards want though. More like the kind of socialism driven by creating enemies. I don't want either, but it makes more sense than communism. The government would have to control the money for communism to work. Instead the money controls the government. We should all just anarchy. It won't stop anything but it'll be fun.

communists did rekt the nazis and are way cooler in every fucking way so its pretty clear who is daddy in this relationship

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Based retard

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>see: revolutionary Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War
As a Catalan myself, I don't believe that this is truth at all. Foreigners have a too rosy view of our revolution, colored by Hemingway and Orwell.
If anything, the Spanish Civil War is historical proof of the correctness of the Marxist thesis on the class nature of the state and the need for the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Discord is inherent in diversity. Static mindlesssness is inherent in any monoculture. Any monoculture relies upon plebs being unthinking lumpen masses.

Change is a forever thing; one cannot ever stand still.

That's interesting your a Catalan. Just out of curiosity, did you support the independence movement that happened a few years ago?

Can you explain how Catalonia wasn't a true communist society during the civil war? They eliminated money, the capitalist class, and organized labor based on workers councils. They achieved in months through direct action what Marxists had been trying for decades to achieve.

don't you have a pharmacy to go run, goldstein?

Have you read the Temporary Autonomous Zone?

back to the oven shlomo

lol i'm sure a kikelover such as yourself needs to get back to sucking on soloman's wart covered cock

fukkin kikelover

I bet you cant believe i got a boner in my pants huh?

lol you probably think the holocaust was also a bad thing right? back to your pharmacy you filthy heeb

Capitalism. If you want to try another system go to one of those hell holes. Also if you came from a hell hole go ahead and acclimate. We don't want to become your hell hole mk2.

Well communism actually worked for about 10000 years and things evolved pretty well. Capitalism has only been around about 500 years and we are already staring death in the face.

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I haven't, actually, thank you for recommending it to me, I'll definitely check it out. Do you have any more suggestions?

lol says nigger boi

National socialism in an ethnocentric, homogeneous nation

Communism isn't Jewish, in fact, anti-semitism has been apart of communist teachings. I doubt a Nazi would believe this though.

It's jewish from the respect that Karl Marx, most , if not all, of the leaders in the german revolution were jewish, and the leaders of the russian revolution were jewish.

Which makes more sense? National Socialism if your believe if truth, communism if you believe in materialism or nihilism.

Both are wrong though. The national aspects of Natsoc are good, but the socialist parts are not much better than communism

>did you support the independence movement that happened a few years ago?
I support the right to selfdetermination of my country, but the political leadership of the movement is full of shit.
I was in fact a volunteer defending the ballots in the referendum. Luckily in my city the police had too few numbers so they didn't attack us.
>They eliminated money
Nah, some local collectives did, not only in Catalonia but also in other places of Spain (communist Asturias, for example) but most of the country still used money. If anything it was wartime inflation what killed the currency.
>the capitalist class
True, but that's also true of many other revolutions, including the Russian one. And we didn't win the civil war, which is the most essential task in this matter.
>and organized labor based on workers councils
Socialization and planning in revolutionary Spain wasn't fundamentally different than in the USSR, socialized businesses where ran by managers appointed by the government or trade-unions. The only difference was that it was done on a less organized way.